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BABY BLOOD AND GEORGE WASHINGTON'S BLOOD (ALSO: LIES AT NLM-MEDLINE)

MEDLINE REVIEWERS (listed below):

"[Withholding] information by restricting scholarly exchange...[is a form
of]...psychological violence."
--Ralph Crawshaw, MD. Academic sanction: targeting South African science.
JAMA 1989;262(11):1499-1503

You are engaging in psychological violence which may be causing MDs to kill
more patients than usual...

Please see my Open Letter to Medline's Mr. Kotzin, below...


BABY BLOOD AND GEORGE WASHINGTON'S BLOOD

BABY BLOOD...

Instead of reporting obvious mass baby asphyxiation/baby blood robbery
child abuse to authorities, Dr. Morley recommended that his fellow
obstetricians perform a TEMPORARY baby asphyxiation experiment to help
demonstrate to themselves that they should not rob babies of massive amounts
of blood.

Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but Dr. Morley's temporary baby
asphyxiation experiment (at www.cordclamping.com) was taken off the web
after I publicly reported it
as child abuse to Oregon Atty Genl Hardy Myers...

Here is Dr. Morley's temporary baby asphyxiation
experiment as it appears at www.archives.com (note the word "asphyxia"):

"[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The
[fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color
will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue
(vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be
able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on
a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon
release the finger and thumb."
http://web.archive.org/web/200502040...ing.com/acog-c
p.htm

For further details about umbilical cord clamping...

See Dr. Morley's TEMPORARY baby asphyxiation experiment in: Water birth and
breathing without lungs...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3936

GEORGE WASHINGTON'S BLOOD...

George Washington probably didn't lose up to 50% of his blood when he was
born - because they didn't do much immediate cord clamping back then (or so
I'm told)...

But George Washington may have been senselessly robbed of half his blood
later in life...

Dr. Andrew Saul writes:

WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS DOCTOR

(An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR!"
http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

"General Washington was taken in the night (in December, 1799) with a sore
throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took from him 14 ounces of blood.
The following morning, the family physician arrived, and proceeded to bleed
him copiously, twice within a few hours, and again the same evening, giving
him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next morning he was given
another dose. The next day another physician was called in consultation, and
the result was that they took an additional 32 ounces of blood from General
Washington. There was no alleviation of the disease. Ten grains more of
calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic in large doses. To his
extremities blisters were applied, and to his throat poultices."

"General Washington died."

(from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July 31, 1931)

Former First President George Washington, the father of our country, died
from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the treatment. Washington had the
best scientific medical attention of his day. And? They bled him no fewer
than five times in three days. Let's do the grisly arithmetic. The first
bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three bleedings of unspecified
quantity, collectively described as "copious"; and then a final full quart
was removed. Assuming that the three "copious" bleedings were also 14 ounces
each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up, we have:

14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from George Washington. The human body
contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints (5 quarts) of blood. 88
ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6 units; that's well over half
the blood in a person. Some estimates place Washington's total bleeding
closer to 8 units.

It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require an assassin, to kill a
great man. Stupidity will do it just as well. (from Fire Your Doctor!, pages
11-12)

For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail...D=ea7dfcd3580f
4b56516da99899e32f92

http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html

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Dr. Saul is also leading a valiant effort for editorial fairness in a
medically-sensitive area of government...

LIES AT NLM-MEDLINE...

Dr. Saul writes:

WORSE THAN MERE BIAS:

NOW IT'S LIES AND DECEPTION AT NLM-MEDLINE

When a concerned physician recently wrote to MEDLINE Executive Editor
Sheldon Kotzin to request the email address of each member of the NLM
Literature Selection Technical Review Committee, the doctor received this
reply:

From: "Kotzin, Sheldon (NIH/NLM) [E]"
Date: February 3, 2006 4:10:22 PM EST
Subject: The JOM and Medline

"this list you referenced below is an internal NIH committee that advises on
a database called medlineplus. the website for the committee that advises on
the selection of medline

journals is located at

http://www.csr.nih.gov/Roster_proto/...le=Literature+
Selection+Technical+Review+Committee&ABBR=LSTR

"no email addresses are provided for either of these sites."

"sheldon kotzin"

DR. SAUL REMARKED:

Please make careful note of that last statement. Asking again, here is the
reply the doctor got to a second request for the Committee's email
addresses:

From: "Kotzin, Sheldon (NIH/NLM) [E]"
Date: February 6, 2006 5:29:21 PM EST
Subject: The JOM and Medline

"unfortunately i don't have easy access to the individual email addresses."

"sheldon kotzin"

DR. SAUL REMARKED FURTHER:

Mr. Kotzin is either inept or is simply not telling the truth. All the email
addresses, for each and every Literature Selection Technical Review
Committee member, are posted right at the NLM's website at

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/bsd/lstrc/lstrc.html

I would consider that easy access, Mr Kotzin. Why don't you?

Now look here, everyone: Mr. Kotzin has a Master's degree in Library
Science. As Editor of MEDLINE, it is presumably his business to know how to
quickly contact his own reviewers. Furthermore, as a taxpayer-supported
Chief, Bibliographic Services Division of the US National Library of
Medicine, he should have little difficulty finding 15 emails at his
library's
own website.

DR. SAUL WROTE:

IT'S TIME TO WRITE TO INDIVIDUAL "MEDLINE" REVEWERS

(And here are their emails, Mr Kotzin. May I suggest that you please put
them in your address book for future reference?)

McCLURE, Lucretia , M.A. (CHAIRMAN)


BAUCHNER, Howard, M.D.,


DELCLOS, George L., M.D., M.P.H


FREY , John J.III, M.D.


KAPLAN, Jerry, Ph.D.


LI, Rong, Ph.D.


MANNING, Phil Richard, M.D.


RACZ , Gabor B., M.D.


SHARPS, Phyllis W. , Ph.D., R.N


SIEGEL, Vivian, Ph.D.


SOEHNER, Catherine B, M.L.S


SPANN , Melvin, Ph.D


STERNBERG, Esther M., M.D


TOM-ORME, Lillian, Ph.D., MPH, RN


VAN PEENEN, Hubert J., M.D


KOTZIN, Sheldon, M.L.S.
Chief, Bibliographic Services Division


DR. SAUL CONCLUDED...

We now see that the 15-member NLM Literature Selection Technical Review
Committee, contrary to what MEDLINE Executive Editor Sheldon Kotzin has
said, does INDEED have easy accessibility. It is time to write and give them
YOUR views, or all you will have to read on MEDLINE is THEIR views.
(Remember to be polite, please, and always request a reply.)

Please send a copy of your letters, and responses, to me a


END Dr. Saul's critique of Mr. Kotzin's behavior...


I have copied the Medline reviewers this post...

ATTN Medline reviewers...

PSYCHOLOGICAL VIOLENCE

As noted above... You are engaging in psychological violence which may be
causing MDs to kill more patients than usual...

MR. KOTZIN NEVER REPLIED TO THE FOLLOWING...


------ Forwarded Message
From:
Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:08:52 -0500 (EST)
To:
Cc:
Subject: MEDLINE psychological violence

MEDLINE PSYCHOLOGICAL VIOLENCE

"[Withholding] information by restricting scholarly exchange...[is a form
of]...psychological violence."
--Ralph Crawshaw, MD. Academic sanction: targeting South African science.
JAMA 1989;262(11):1499-1503

OPEN LETTER (archived for global access; see below)

Mr. Sheldon Kotzin
MEDLINE
National Library of Medicine
Executive Editor of Medline


Sheldon,

MEDLINE psychological violence (restricting scholarly exchange) may be
causing PHYSICAL violence by MDs toward their patients, i.e., patients may
actually be dying sooner than they would otherwise because their MDs do not
have easy access to the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine on MEDLINE.

By denying people the liberty of learning of articles in the Journal of
Orthomolecular Medicine, MEDLINE may be guilty, indirectly, of causing MDs
to commit battery against their patients.

I say this because battery and liberty form the the basis of the legal
doctrine of informed consent, as in,

Battery
--defendant is held liable for any intended action that
results in physical contact for which the plaintiff has
given no permission.
--a defendant need not have an evil intent.
--injury need not result.
Liberty
--basic human right to control what happens to one's
body.
--independence from controlling influences.
http://courses.washington.edu/mhe523/Session7.pdf

I say again Sheldon: MEDLINE psychological violence (restricting scholarly
exchange) may be causing PHYSICAL violence by MDs toward their patients,
i.e., patients may actually be dying sooner than they would otherwise
because their MDs do not have easy access to the Journal of Orthomolecular
Medicine on MEDLINE.

So please at least answer Dr. Andrew Saul's questions:

1. What are the specific reasons that the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine
has been excluded from MEDLINE's index by a "Literature Selection
Technical Review Committee"?
Â*
2. What are the names, qualifications, and professional affiliations of the
members of the NLM/Medline "Literature Selection Technical Review
Committee"?
Â*
3. Who appoints these members to the Committee?
Â*
4. What is the date of their next meeting, and will there be a public
hearing?
http://doctoryourself.com/medline.html.

Please respond directly to Dr. Saul and copy me when you do.

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo
Hillsboro, Oregon
USA


PS Of course, Sheldon, just because information is indexed in the MEDLINE
database does not mean MDs will not routinely commit battery against
patients. MEDLINE indexes articles indicating that MDs are closing birth
canals up to 30% and robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume; yet
these MD batteries continue en masse - sometimes killing babies.

The obvious batteries are recommended in a recent medical book for
consumers...

See ACOG's 2005 edition: How NOT to birth
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3606

See also: RNs: 'Stitches, episiotomy, and postpartum complications'
(Maternal care learning needs)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3725

Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG writes that EVERY
CESAREAN BABY is temporarily asphyxiated and robbed of up to 50% of his/her
blood volume; yet instead of simply reporting this obvious mass child abuse
to authorities, Dr. Morley recommended a temporary baby asphyxiation
experiment WITHOUT robbing blood - so his fellow obstetricians could
demonstrate to themselves why they shouldn't rob babies of massive amounts
of blood.

Dr. Morley's temporary baby asphyxiation without robbing blood experiment
disappeared from the web after I publicly reported it as obvious child abuse
to Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers. (I asked Hardy to leave it on the
web but just label it as child abuse.)

Here is Dr. Morley's temporary baby asphyxiation without robbing blood
experiment for those who missed it:

"[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The
[fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color
will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue
(vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be
able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on
a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.Â* Common sense will soon
release the finger and thumb."
http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm --LINK DOESN'T WORK (see above^^^)

For further details about immediate umbilical cord clamping...

See Dr. Morley's TEMPORARY baby asphyxiation experiment in: Water birth and
breathing without lungs...
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3936

BOTTOMLINE...

MEDLINE can't MAKE MDs read important information - but MEDLINE needs to put
it out there.

Again Sheldon, please at least answer Dr. Andrew Saul's questions, listed
above.

This Open Letter to MEDLINE's executive editor Sheldon Kotzin will be
archived for global access in the Google usenet archive.

Search http://groups.google.com for "MEDLINE psychological violence."



------ End of Forwarded Message

Sheldon still hasn't replied.

Maybe Sheldon's MEDLINE reviewers (listed above) will join me in asking him
to at least answer Dr. Andrew Saul's questions...

Thanks,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo
Hillsboro, Oregon
USA


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