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Mercury in Vaccines
I had put Peter back in my ignore list... so I wouldn't have seen his
reply had you not replied to him, Jan. Peter is turning in to a regular laughing stock. Once again, he didn't even bother to click on the provided link before shooting his mouth off. Had he resisted the temptation to be lazy and taken less than 1 second to click on the link I provided, he would have seen that the title of the study in question is "Thimerosal and Animal Brains: New Data for Assessing Human Ethylmercury Risk" Let's post that again on it's own line so everyone can see how incredibly lazy and ignorant Peter is: "Thimerosal and Animal Brains: New Data for Assessing Human Ethylmercury Risk" Now let's emphasize a couple of words. ***ETHYLMERCURY RISK*** Pointing out Peter's ineptitude is like shooting fish in a barrel. That's why I put him in my ignore list. There's just no challenge. Max. Jan Drew wrote: And where does the word "ethylmercury" appear in the above? (Perhaps I can't see it. After all, I have to rely on Google to find things.) He didn't need to. He gave all enought credit to know what *inorganic* and *organic* and *total*mercury meant. Feel free to tell us that "inorganic mercury" is "ethylmercury". We need a good laugh. Sadly..the the laugh is about your ignorance. http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/...sp?Main_ID=472 Common Names: elemental mercury, quicksilver, colloidal mercury, metallic mercury Mercury is a toxic heavy metal that is found naturally in the environment. As the result of human activities, environmental levels have increased substantially over natural levels. Mercury is found in three forms: organic, inorganic and elemental (mercury). Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that can cause permanent damage to the brain and central nervous system, especially among young children. In pregnant women, mercury can pass through the placenta and can harm the fetus. |
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Mercury in Vaccines
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Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. That's only partially correct. Thimerosal is still in flu shots. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm And flu shots are now recommended for infants. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02163256&EDATE |
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Mercury in Vaccines
Max C. wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. That's only partially correct. Thimerosal is still in flu shots. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm And flu shots are now recommended for infants. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02163256&EDATE But the anti-vac liars used to whinny and whine that it was the cumulative effects of all those shots that caused the "autism epidemic" and not just a single shot. |
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Mercury in Vaccines
Mark Probert wrote:
Max C. wrote: Mark Probert wrote: Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. That's only partially correct. Thimerosal is still in flu shots. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm And flu shots are now recommended for infants. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02163256&EDATE But the anti-vac liars used to whinny and whine that it was the cumulative effects of all those shots that caused the "autism epidemic" and not just a single shot. There is some evidence that autism rates are going down, but it has been disputed. Then again, maybe there is no connection at all. There has been no large scale study to prove one way or another. That's all beside the point. My reason for posting is to address the fact that infants could still be getting thimerosal in their vaccine schedule. As John pointed out above: Dr. George Lucier, toxicologist and former director of the Environmental Toxicology Program, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says, "Thimerosal contains organic mercury. Organic mercury is a known developmental neurotoxin and the fetus and infants are at special risk. Public health policies should not allow infants to be purposely injected with organic mercury." Max. |
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Mercury in Vaccines
I would be interested in your comments. Enjoy your day.
Roman Bystrianyk, "Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation", Health Sentinel, January 3, 2005, In the 1930s, Eli Lily developed Thimerosal as a preservative and it was widely used in vaccines. Until the removal of Thimerosal, which contains 49.9% ethyl mercury by weight, from most pediatric vaccines in 2001, the source of the largest human exposure to mercury in the US was in children under 18 months of age undergoing routine childhood immunization schedules. Before 2001, a child may have received a cumulative dose of over 200 µg/kg (micrograms per kilogram) in the first 18 months of life. Although Thimerosal has been removed from most childhood vaccines, it is still present in the flu vaccine, which is given to pregnant women, the elderly, and children. Also, many vaccines given to children in developing countries still contain Thimerosal. In the 2005 issue of NeuroToxicology, the authors of a study examine the toxicity of Thimerosal within the body including neurons. They examine the neurotoxic mechanisms, how the body detoxifies mercury, and the use of N-Acetylcysteine, or NAC for short, in facilitating the detoxification pathway within the body. Glutathione, a tripeptide composed of cysteine, glutamate, and glycine, is manufactured in the liver and also in the brain. Normally, the concentrations of glutathione in the cells are quite high providing for detoxification of a variety of heavy metals including mercury. However, when this essential antioxidant is depleted the excess mercury can bind to internal cellular proteins leading to toxic damage. Studies have shown that, "low micromolar concentrations of Thimerosal induced DNA strand breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage and cell death." Although the brain can produce glutathione, it can only manufacture this from its immediate precursor cysteine. The liver, on the other hand, is able through a long series of biochemical steps to create glutathione from methionine. Methionine is an essential amino acid that supplies the body with sulfur and methyl groups. The liver uses a number of enzyme systems along with various B vitamins to produce glutathione. The liver then exports the glutathione to the blood that then is broken down to cystine. Cystine crosses the blood-brain barrier to be used by the brain to make glutathione. Thus, the brain is reliant on the liver to manufacture chemicals to keep it free from toxins. The brain contains neurons and other cells called astrocytes. Astrocytes use the cystine that crosses the blood-brain barrier to make glutathione. The astrocytes then export the glutathione to the space between the cells where it is broken down to cysteine. The neurons take up the cysteine and manufacture glutathione. This complex series of biochemical events is what is necessary to keep the brain free from heavy metal damage. The authors first examined the level of Thimerosal that would cause toxic damage to cells. They found that the higher the concentration of Thimerosal the greater the number of cells that were killed although the nerve cell response occurred with only a 3 hour exposure, whereas the other cell line required a 48 hour exposure demonstrating that nerve cells are more sensitive to Thimerosal toxicity. "In both cell lines, a progressive increase in cytotoxicity (decrease in viability) was observed when Thimerosal dose was progressively doubled from 2.5 µmol/L [micromoles per liter] to 5, 10, and 20 µmol/L. Viability was reduced more than 50% in both cell lines with exposure to 10 µmol/L Thimerosal and less than 10% of cells survived a dose of 20 µmol/L." The authors then pretreated cells with NAC before adding a dose of 15 µmol/L Thimerosal. They found that, "Thimerosal alone induced more than a 6-fold decrease in viability", and that NAC, "provided significant protection against cell death". The authors note, "Thimerosal induces oxidative stress and apoptosis by activating mitochondrial cell death pathways. A subsequent study using cultured human neuron and fibroblast cell lines similarly showed that low micromolar concentrations of Thimerosal induced DNA strand breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage and cell death." The authors conclude that, "numerous clinical studies have demonstrated the efficacy of NAC in increasing intracellular glutathione levels and reducing oxidative stress in humans. Since cytotoxicity with both ethyl- and methyl- mercury have been shown to be mediated by glutathione depletion, dietary supplements that increase intracellular glutathione could be envisioned as an effective intervention to reduce previous or anticipated exposure to mercury. This approach would be especially valuable in the elderly and in pregnant women receiving Rho D immunoglobulin shots, and individuals who regularly consume mercury-containing fish." SOURCE: NeuroToxicology, Vol. 26, 2005, pp. 1-8 |
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Peter Bowditch. insists on showing his further ignorance wrote: "Jan Drew" wrote: "Peter Bowditch" wrote in message . .. "Max C." wrote: Jeff wrote: This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. Wow. That is absolutely wrong. Ethylmercury does, in fact, make its way into the brain. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." And where does the word "ethylmercury" appear in the above? (Perhaps I can't see it. After all, I have to rely on Google to find things.) He didn't need to. He gave all enought credit to know what *inorganic* and *organic* and *total*mercury meant. He did need to. He started off talking about ethylmercury, which is a very specific chemical compound (despite what Saint Boyd might say). There is no Saint Boyd. There is Dr. Boyd Haley who is a Ph.D chemist.. who has done much research on mercury, including thimerosal. In FACT..the one who you have LIES about on you website. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/thimerosal.htm He then quoted something which made a distinction between methylmercury and "inorganic mercury". I know what "inorganic mercury" means, and it doesn't mean "ethylmercury" Feel free to tell us that "inorganic mercury" is "ethylmercury". We need a good laugh. Sadly..the the laugh is about your ignorance. http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/...sp?Main_ID=472 Common Names: elemental mercury, quicksilver, colloidal mercury, metallic mercury All of which are common names for something which is not ethylmercury. Ethymercury IS in thirmerosal. It does go to the brain. Mercury is a toxic heavy metal that is found naturally in the environment. As the result of human activities, environmental levels have increased substantially over natural levels. Mercury is found in three forms: organic, inorganic and elemental (mercury). Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that can cause permanent damage to the brain and central nervous system, especially among young children. In pregnant women, mercury can pass through the placenta and can harm the fetus. http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...e_id=EDF%2d173 Did you read the next bit you pasted? The bit where it lists ethylmercury under the heading "Organic Mercury Compounds". Doesn't this tell you that ethylmercury cannot be "inorganic mercury"? Do you understand what the prefix "ethyl-" means? I KNOW more about MERCURY than you do..I was POISONED by it from AMALGAMS and came close to dying! http://www.greenfacts.org/glossary/def/ethylmercury.htm Ethylmercury Similar term(s): EtHg Definition: C2H5Hg+. Ethylmercury is a cation that forms organic mercury compounds such as ethylmercury chloride and ethylmercury urea. Thimerosal is also an ethylmercury salt: sodium ethylmercuric thiosalicylate. The term 'ethylmercury' is sometimes used as a generic term to describe ethylmercury compounds. ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS CAS Number: EDF-173 Note that ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS may include any of the following constituents: ALKYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS ARYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS BIS(ISOBUTYL) MERCURY CHLOROMETHOXYPROPYLMERCURIC ACETATE [CPMA] DI(PHENYLMERCURY)DODECENYLSUCCINATE [PMDS] DIETHYL MERCURY DIISOPROPYL MERCURY DIMETHYL MERCURY ETHYLMERCURIC PHOSPHATE HYDROXYMETHYL MERCURY MERCURIC ACETATE METHOXYETHYLMERCURIC ACETATE METHYL MERCURY METHYL MERCURY CHLORIDE METHYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS METHYLMERCURIC DICYANAMIDE PHENYL MERCURIC PROPIONATE PHENYLMERCURIC ACETATE PHENYLMERCURIC OLEATE [PMO] THIMEROSAL It makes it OUT of the brain faster than Methylmercury, but there is no data proving that a quicker exit relates to zero damage. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Just because something "has not been shown" does not mean it isn't so. It simply means the right study has not been performed. Can you please show us a broad study comparing 100% unvaccinated children with vaccinated children that compare the gambit of possible risk factors of thimerosal such as autism, ADD/ADHD, asthma and several neurodegenerative disorders? To my knowledge, such a study does not exist. That being the case, it's no wonder "it has never been shown." Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. There's plenty of evidence. It just so happens that, at this time, it's all anecdotal. As I said, the proper studies have not been done. Max. -- Peter Bowditch Show us your further IGNORANCE...Peter! You didn't bother to click on the link..Max gave. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Thimerosal and Animal Brains: New Data for Assessing Human Ethylmercury Risk" |
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Max C. wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: Max C. wrote: Mark Probert wrote: Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. That's only partially correct. Thimerosal is still in flu shots. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm And flu shots are now recommended for infants. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02163256&EDATE But the anti-vac liars used to whinny and whine that it was the cumulative effects of all those shots that caused the "autism epidemic" and not just a single shot. There is some evidence that autism rates are going down, but it has been disputed. The reason that it is disputed is that the "evidence" datasets used are not designed to make such evaluations. Thus, there is no evidence that the autism rates are going down. Recently, Shattuck showed that there may be no evidence that the autism rates actually went up. Of course, the anti-vac liars immediately trashed him, as they have a vested interest in the so-called autism epidemic. Then again, maybe there is no connection at all. There has been no large scale study to prove one way or another. That's all beside the point. My reason for posting is to address the fact that infants could still be getting thimerosal in their vaccine schedule. Like I said, one shot. Period. It was the claim that the danger was from the increasing cumulative amounts. Now, there can be no such claims. As John pointed out above: Dr. George Lucier, toxicologist and former director of the Environmental Toxicology Program, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says, "Thimerosal contains organic mercury. Organic mercury is a known developmental neurotoxin and the fetus and infants are at special risk. Public health policies should not allow infants to be purposely injected with organic mercury." Infants clear the mercury from Thimerosal incredibly fast. Further, at the dose provided, there is no evidence of human toxicity. Max. |
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... Ilena wrote in message ... I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Personally I find very little of what Mercola says is accurate or based on science. Mercury in Vaccines Uproar over a little-known preservative, thimerosal, jostles U.S. hepatitis B vaccination policy In 1997, when Frank Pallone, a Democratic congressman from New Jersey, attached a simple amendment to an FDA reauthorization bill, he could not have predicted that it would cause such a commotion two years later. His amendment ran just 133 words. It gave FDA two years to "compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and . [to] provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds in the list.." The bill later evolved into the landmark FDA Modernization Act of 1997 (FDAMA) and was signed into law on November 21, 1997. Pallone's amendment undoubtedly sprang from his long interest in environmental causes. But he had unwittingly set into motion a chain of events that would, two years later, bring turmoil to the immunization policy world and fears of harm to the nation's hepatitis B control effort. Facts about thimerosal and mercury Thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. It is 49.6% mercury by weight. In the human body, thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is limited and old. Case reports have demonstrated toxicity after massive overdoses. Toxicological information on the chief metabolite of thimerosal, ethylmercury, is extremely limited. During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The toxicity of methylmercury is complex and depends on the type, level, and duration of exposure. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/exposure.htm III. MECHANISMS, SOURCES & EPIDEMIOLOGY OF EXPOSURE Sallie Bernard*, Albert Enayati, B.S., Ch.E., M.S.M.E., Heidi Roger, Teresa Binstock, Lyn Redwood, R.N., M.S.N., C.R.N.P., Woody McGinnis, M.D. That is what Jeff said, very little science. What YOU have said over and over and over. Jan Drew snips what she can not handle. What I have said proves to be the *TRUTH.* You are famous for accusing other of your EXACTLY guilt. You snipped the HUGH amount of science you can not handle. Given that ethylmercury is equally neurotoxic as methylmercury (Magos et al, 1985), and that injected mercury is more harmful than ingested mercury (EPA, 1997, p.3-55; Diner and Brenner, 1998), the amount of injected ethylmercury given to young children is cause for concern. The potential for Hg-induced harm is compounded by the special vulnerability of infants (Gosselin et al, 1984). Mercury, which primarily affects the central nervous system, is most toxic to the developing brain (Davis et al, 1994; Grandjean et al, 1999; Yeates and Mortensen, 1994), and neonates exposed to methyl (organic) mercury have been shown to accumulate significantly more Hg in the brain relative to other tissues than do adults ( EPA, 1997, p.4-1). Mercury may also be more likely to enter the infant brain because the blood-brain barrier has not fully closed (Wild & Benzel, 1994). In addition, infants under 6 months are unable to excrete mercury, most likely due to their inability to produce bile, the main excretion route for organic mercury (Koos and Longo, 1976; Clarkson, 1993). Bakir et al (1973) have shown that those with the longest half-time of clearance are most likely to experience adverse sequelae, while Aschner and Aschner (1990) have demonstrated that the longer that organic mercury remains in neurons, the more it is converted to its inorganic irreversibly-bound form, which has greater neurotoxicity. ontact Dermatitis. 1993 Sep;29(3):152-4. Related Articles, Links Ethylmercuric chloride: the responsible agent in thimerosal hypersensitivity. Pirker C, Moslinger T, Wantke F, Gotz M, Jarisch R. Dermatologic and Pediatric Allergy Clinic, Vienna, Austria. The causative agent of thimerosal allergy (sodium ethylmercury thiosalicylate) has not previously been thoroughly investigated. To evaluate whether the organic mercury component or the thiosalicylic acid molecule induces thimerosal sensitization, 23 patients positive to thimerosal were patch tested with ethylmercuric chloride, thiosalicylic acid and 8 different derivatives of mercury. To date, ethylmercuric chloride has not been tested in thimerosal allergy. 19/23 patients (82%) showed positive patch test reactions to ethylmercuric chloride. 4/23 patients negative to ethylmercuric chloride reacted positively to thimerosal 0.1% but not to thimerosal 0.05%. 8/23 patients (35%) also reacted to other mercurials. 20 controls negative to thimerosal showed negative patch test reactions to ethylmercuric chloride. Neither patients nor controls reacted to thiosalicylic acid. These results indicate that testing with thimerosal 0.1% leads to false-positive reactions and that the ethyl mercury component is the responsible agent in thimerosal allergy. PMID: 8222628 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://poisonevercure.150m.com/autism.htm Autistic children are shown to retain abnormally high concentrations of mercury from environmental sources such as vaccines. ********* (Until recently, the FDA administration concealed their knowledge that thimerosal has been known to cross through the blood-brain barrier and concentrate in the brain).*********** In a recent communication with Congressman Dr. Weldon, CDC conceded that some of the routinely recommended vaccines contained the full amount of thimerosal (25 mcg) as late as 2003. Those are not to expire until towards the end of 2005. There is no existing reason to believe that manufactures have it in mind to completely remove thimerosal from childhood vaccines in the near future. Much to my alarm, documents recently obtained from the World Health Organization (WHO)state that their policy is to lobby strongly for maintaining thimerosal in vaccines as they see it necessary to use childhood vaccines in third world countries. The mentality is that if thimerosal is taken out of American childhood vaccines, the third world countries will not accept thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines. This seems to be a clear disturbing indication that, for whatever reason, WHO desires to inoculate third world country populations with thimerosal containing vaccines. This is an agency that claims to have an interest in making sure that children in developing countries have the best opportunities at life. How is that possible when they are being deliberately poisoned with high concentrations of a neurotoxins? There exists many decades worth of peer-reviewed literature (literally hundreds) on the dangers of thimerosal which include case-reports, animal studies, tissues culture studies, genetic studies, toxicology studies, and biochemical studies. According to the above article, CDC, HHS and AAP warns that 1/166 children have autistic spectrum disorders and even more alarming, 1/6 children have developmental and or behavioral disorders. The World Health Organization's (WHO) Expert Committee on Biological Standardization acknowledges that thimerosal is essential during vaccine production to inactivate certain pathogenic organisms and toxins and prevent microbial growth during vaccine storage and use. (click here to view document). Read the Eli Lilly's, manufacturer of thimerosal, safety data sheet on thimerosal. According to this document, thimerosal will react with strong oxidizing agents and one listed is peroxides. Another vaccine component. Also listed are the effects, including signs and symptoms of exposure such as topical allergic dermatitis, topical hypersensitivity reactions. Early signs of mercury poisoning are noted as nervous system effects which include narrowing of the visual field and numbness in the extremities. "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children can cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination's impairment". Primary routes of entry are listed as inhalation and skin contact. For shipping information, there's no question of the label: POISONS accompanied by the skull and bones picture label. Mercury over stimulates the brain's immune system. Over stimulation of the brain results in activation of the microglia widely dispersed in the brain. When the microglia are activated, they release toxins killing surrounding brains cells. Prolonged stimulation of the microglia by too many vaccines kills far too many brain cells. Though, some may find the reasoning of this imitation form of immunization to make sense and logic, studying the peer review, lab work and studies conducting the safety of such the practice will encourage you to think twice. The dangers of inoculating children and adults with vile microorganisms is potentially fatal. World Health Organization is privy to this information. Other material indicate they know that more children would die and or die quicker without the thimerosal. Sounds insane, but a fact worth keeping in mind and or researching on your own. So, in order to inactivate these microorganisms something even more toxic is needed to do just that. That's where the thimerosal comes in. These facts alone should raise a few eyebrows. Remember, in the records of mercury toxicology, it only takes 35 mcg to kill a rabbit. Now, think about how much is in each vaccine. There's 25mcg in Hib, Pneumococcal (except for Prevnar), DTaP, all Tetanus brands. Then there's 12.5 in the Hep b. How much thimerosal is needed should be your other indicator of the dangers of vaccines. The next indicator is how many doses children receive by school registration. It's one Russian roulette game after another to keep the big bucks packing into the pockets of the big dogs. Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Sep;9(9):833-45.Related Articles, Links Neurotoxic effects of postnatal thimerosal are mouse strain dependent. Hornig M, Chian D, Lipkin WI. Jerome L and Dawn Greene Infectious Disease Laboratory, Department of Epidemiology, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, NY 10032, USA. The developing brain is uniquely susceptible to the neurotoxic hazard posed by mercurials. Host differences in maturation, metabolism, nutrition, sex, and autoimmunity influence outcomes. How population-based variability affects the safety of the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative, thimerosal, is unknown. Reported increases in the prevalence of autism, a highly heritable neuropsychiatric condition, are intensifying public focus on environmental exposures such as thimerosal. Immune profiles and family history in autism are frequently consistent with autoimmunity. We hypothesized that autoimmune propensity influences outcomes in mice following thimerosal challenges that mimic routine childhood immunizations. Autoimmune disease-sensitive SJL/J mice showed growth delay; reduced locomotion; exaggerated response to novelty; and densely packed, hyperchromic hippocampal neurons with altered glutamate receptors and transporters. Strains resistant to autoimmunity, C57BL/6J and BALB/cJ, were not susceptible. These findings implicate genetic influences and provide a model for investigating thimerosal-related neurotoxicity. PMID: 15184908 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Neurotoxicology. 1989 Winter;10(4):699-706.Related Articles, Links Effect of organic and inorganic mercuric salts on Na+K+ATPase in different cerebral fractions in control and intrauterine growth-retarded rats: alterations induced by serotonin. Chanez C, Flexor MA, Bourre JM. Unite 26, INSERM, Hopital Fernand WIDAL, Paris, France. An intrauterine growth-retarded (IUGR) model based on restriction of blood supply to the rat fetus at the 17th day of pregnancy was studied. We investigated in vitro the effects of thimerosal and mercuric chloride on Na+K+ATPase activity in total brain homogenate, synaptosomes and myelin at weaning. In addition, we evaluated the reversal effect of serotonin on mercury-inhibited Na+K+ATPase activity. The toxicity, in terms of inhibition of Na+K+ATPase activity was greater with mercuric chloride than with thimerosal. Synaptosomes and principally myelin were more sensitive to the metal salts than total homogenate. Serotonin stimulated the Na+K+ATPase activity in total brain homogenate and synaptosomes but inhibited the enzyme in the myelin fraction. This effect was more marked in the IUGR group than in the control group. Serotonin (1 mM) added to total homogenate pretreated with the mercury salts produced variable reversal effects. In the synaptosomal fraction reverse effect was noted with serotonin. In myelin fraction, added serotonin increased inhibition caused by thimerosal. PMID: 2562765 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Int J Biochem. 1983;15(1):5-7.Related Articles, Links Rat brain (Na+-K+)ATPase: modulation of its ouabain-sensitive K+-PNPPase activity by thimerosal. Lewis RN, Bowler K. 1. The (Na+ + K+) ATPase activity of a rat brain synaptic membrane preparation was inhibited by 10(-5) M thimerosal. 2. The ouabain inhibitable K+-PNPPase activity of thimerosal treated membranes was compared with that of untreated membranes with respect to sensitivity to temperature, ouabain, K+ and ATP. 3. All those kinetic characteristics were substantially altered by treatment with thimerosal. PMID: 6298022 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://www.nupr.neu.edu/2-04/deth_article.pdf Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Apr;9(4):358-70. Related Articles, Links Activation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal. Waly M, Olteanu H, Banerjee R, Choi SW, Mason JB, Parker BS, Sukumar S, Shim S, Sharma A, Benzecry JM, Power-Charnitsky VA, Deth RC. Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Northeastern University, Boston, MA 02115, USA. Methylation events play a critical role in the ability of growth factors to promote normal development. Neurodevelopmental toxins, such as ethanol and heavy metals, interrupt growth factor signaling, raising the possibility that they might exert adverse effects on methylation. We found that insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1)- and dopamine-stimulated methionine synthase (MS) activity and folate-dependent methylation of phospholipids in SH-SY5Y human neuroblastoma cells, via a PI3-kinase- and MAP-kinase-dependent mechanism. The stimulation of this pathway increased DNA methylation, while its inhibition increased methylation-sensitive gene expression. Ethanol potently interfered with IGF-1 activation of MS and blocked its effect on DNA methylation, whereas it did not inhibit the effects of dopamine. Metal ions potently affected IGF-1 and dopamine-stimulated MS activity, as well as folate-dependent phospholipid methylation: Cu(2+) promoted enzyme activity and methylation, while Cu(+), Pb(2+), Hg(2+) and Al(3+) were inhibitory. The ethylmercury-containing preservative thimerosal inhibited both IGF-1- and dopamine-stimulated methylation with an IC(50) of 1 nM and eliminated MS activity. Our findings outline a novel growth factor signaling pathway that regulates MS activity and thereby modulates methylation reactions, including DNA methylation. The potent inhibition of this pathway by ethanol, lead, mercury, aluminum and thimerosal suggests that it may be an important target of neurodevelopmental toxins. PMID: 14745455 [PubMed - in process] Blood work from kids SHOULD have been taken within two to four hours, NOT days after vaccines, thimerosal crosses the blood brain barrier and is stored in the brain. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/asdexperts.htm A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...ccinethensick/ http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/hepatitisB.htm http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/h...is_vaccine.htm Is Hepatitis Vaccine Safe? The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the government to report vaccine reactions. Many experts believe that only 10% of the adverse reactions are reported though as reporting is not mandated by law. Even with only 10% of the problems being reported there were nearly 25,000 VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998, showing 439 deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement or death. The presence of findings such as brain edema in healthy infants who die very soon after receiving hepatitis B vaccine is profoundly disturbing, especially in view of the frequency of neurologic symptoms in the VAERS. Does this make any sense? Is Hepatitis B Vaccine Effective in Newborns? Vaccine derived immunity is thought to be short lived. Between 30-50% of vaccinated individuals lose their antibiodies within 7 years. Up to 60% of persons who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies within 12 years.. So that means that these vaccines will provide little to no protection to the real risks of acquiring hepatitis B, promiscuous sexual behavior and IV drug abuse. Does this make any sense? How Many Children Are Hurt or Helped By Hepatitis B Vaccine? Hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996 only 54 cases of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9 million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the 0-1 age group was just 0.001%. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 age group, with 47 deaths reported. Jeff is much like you..he gives those *organized medicine* pat answer replies and prefers to remain ignorant of REAL science and REAL adverse effects. |
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Mark Probert wrote:
Recently, Shattuck showed that there may be no evidence that the autism rates actually went up. Of course, the anti-vac liars immediately trashed him, as they have a vested interest in the so-called autism epidemic. That's true, but we like to call them "children" instead of "vested interests." Then again, maybe there is no connection at all. There has been no large scale study to prove one way or another. That's all beside the point. My reason for posting is to address the fact that infants could still be getting thimerosal in their vaccine schedule. Like I said, one shot. Period. It was the claim that the danger was from the increasing cumulative amounts. Now, there can be no such claims. .... for thimerosal. I agree... as long as it's 100% out of the picture. That does not eliminate claims for aluminum, eggs proteins, gelatin, DNA from other animals or any of the other potentially dangerous ingredients. This weekend I stumbled upon a new concern for vaccines of which I had no previous knowledge. I have reason to believe that my 8 month old may have a gelatin allergy, or at least a sensitivity. I wanted to learn more about it so I googled "gelatin allergy." To my surprise, most of the web sites google returned were discussing vaccines. The gelatin in some vaccines has proven very hazardous for a small number of people. Upon reading more, there are apparently causes for concern over egg proteins, sorbitol, and neomycin as well... all commonly found in many vaccines. Here's one of the links I found: http://www.jcaai.org/pp/anaph_10_avian.asp The link talks about "skin testing" to determine if the would-be-recipient will be allergic to the ingredients, but this is new to me, so I don't know that much about it. I don't recall "skin tests" being SOP for giving vaccines. Is it? As John pointed out above: Dr. George Lucier, toxicologist and former director of the Environmental Toxicology Program, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says, "Thimerosal contains organic mercury. Organic mercury is a known developmental neurotoxin and the fetus and infants are at special risk. Public health policies should not allow infants to be purposely injected with organic mercury." Infants clear the mercury from Thimerosal incredibly fast. Further, at the dose provided, there is no evidence of human toxicity. I don't consider a half life of 24.2 days of mercury being in the brain "incredibly fast"... especially when we're talking about a length of time that may make up a very large percentage of the time the infant has been alive. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." But we've both discussed this before. We didn't see eye to eye then, and I don't imagine we'll come to an agreement this time either. The fact is, the data does not exist. In my opinion, if you're a parent that knows how to use nutrition to protect your children, it's best to err on the side of caution and avoid unnecessary vaccination shots. (Note that I did NOT say "Avoid vaccination.") If you're a parent that feeds your children whatever is convenient or the easiest to prepare, get your kids vaccinated. Max. |
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Max C. wrote: Mark Probert wrote: Max C. wrote: Mark Probert wrote: Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. That's only partially correct. Thimerosal is still in flu shots. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm And flu shots are now recommended for infants. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02163256&EDATE But the anti-vac liars used to whinny and whine that it was the cumulative effects of all those shots that caused the "autism epidemic" and not just a single shot. There is some evidence that autism rates are going down, but it has been disputed. The reason that it is disputed is that the "evidence" datasets used are not designed to make such evaluations. Thus, there is no evidence that the autism rates are going down. Recently, Shattuck showed that there may be no evidence that the autism rates actually went up. Of course, the anti-vac liars immediately trashed him, as they have a vested interest in the so-called autism epidemic. Then again, maybe there is no connection at all. There has been no large scale study to prove one way or another. That's all beside the point. My reason for posting is to address the fact that infants could still be getting thimerosal in their vaccine schedule. Like I said, one shot. Period. It was the claim that the danger was from the increasing cumulative amounts. Now, there can be no such claims. As John pointed out above: Dr. George Lucier, toxicologist and former director of the Environmental Toxicology Program, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says, "Thimerosal contains organic mercury. Organic mercury is a known developmental neurotoxin and the fetus and infants are at special risk. Public health policies should not allow infants to be purposely injected with organic mercury." Infants clear the mercury from Thimerosal incredibly fast. Further, at the dose provided, there is no evidence of human toxicity. Blood work from kids SHOULD have been taken within two to four hours, NOT days after vaccines, thimerosal crosses the blood brain barrier and is stored in the brain. Max. |
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