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  #21  
Old March 12th 07, 03:46 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Roman Bystrianyk
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On Mar 12, 10:12 am, Mark Probert
wrote:
Roman Bystrianyk wrote:
On Mar 12, 7:56 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Roman Bystrianyk" wrote in message


groups.com...


While the research concerning ADD and ADHD has been around for decades,
DavidSon said he observed increased diagnoses in the mid-1980s and into
the 1990s. "Initially, young boys were primarily the ones diagnosed
followed by girls and then adults. I cannot speak for other practices,
but I noted the growth was consistent with the expansion and
development
of video games. Additionally, you must consider the contributions of
poor
diet and faulty-discipline to ADHD. Diet and discipline have declined
over time. It is a matter of record that our children have higher
incidents of obesity, and don't mention the condition of
child-discipline
in the nation."
Diet, family discipline, and video games don't cause ADHD.
This study maybe of interest to you. Enjoy your day.
Roman Bystrianyk, "Flax seed oil and vitamin C improve ADHD", Health
Sentinel, January 8, 2006,
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or ADHD, is the most
commonly diagnosed behavioral disorder in children. The diagnosis
affects approximately 3-5% of school-going children. Studies have
established that certain long-chained fatty acids are critical for
normal brain development. Additional studies have show that
deficiencies or imbalances in these fatty acids contribute to ADHD.
Fatty acids, docosahexaenoic acid or DHA and eicosapentanoic acid or
EPA, are key for normal brain development and found in large amounts
in fish oil. Alpha linolenic acid, or ALA, is a precursor fatty acid
to DHA and is found in large amounts in flax seed oil. Children can
convert ALA to DHA, but the conversion is dependent on adequate
amounts of ALA and a low level of linoleic acid, or LA, in the diet.
LA is found in large amounts in corn, safflower, sunflower, and canola
oils.
A study in the January 2006 issue of the journal Prostaglandins,
Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids, examined 30 children diagnosed
with ADHD along with 30 healthy control children. They were given flax
oil supplements containing 200 mg of ALA along with 25 mg of vitamin C
two times a day for 3 months. A trained clinical psychologist analyzed
the children's behavior before and after the 3 months. The children's
blood cells were also analyzed before and after the supplementation to
determine the change in fatty acids.
It was found that at the end of the 3 months there was a "significant
increase" in the levels of both EPA and DHA. All ADHD measures were
improved after the 3 months. "Individual scores of Inattention,
Impulsivity, Restlessness and Self-Control reduced significantly post-
supplementation. SI [social problems] and I [learning problems] scores
constituting RPS [Related Problem Score] were found to be
significantly decreasing in the post-supplementation group."
All the children in the enrolled study completed the 3 months of
supplementation with no dropouts. The supplements were well accepted
by all the children and there were no side effects.
The authors conclude that, "All the symptoms like impulsivity,
restlessness, inattention, self-control, psychosomatic problems and
learning problems showed highly significant improvement. Social
problems and learning problems together constituted-related problems
score also dropped significantly. There is considerable evidence that
polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation brought about improvement
in educational and behavioral problems among children with
developmental coordination disorder and reduction in ADHD-related
symptoms."
SOURCE: Prostaglandins, Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids,
January 2006
This was a poor study design. The control group (normal kids) was different
than the treatment group (ADHD kids). The control group and the treatment
group should both have been kids with ADHD. The kids should have been
randomly assigned to one group or the other. And both groups should have
recieved pills (without anyone knowing what was in them).


The results of the study as done are useless.


Jeff


And perhaps this report ...


Jenny Hope, "Junk food diet 'makes children badly behaved'", Daily
Mail, May 3, 2005,
Link:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...omenfamily.htm...


Diets high in processed foods are causing bad behaviour and learning
difficulties in children, scientists have warned.


They claim junk food stops the brain working properly, leading to
underachievement and a host of disorders.


Such foods not only lack the vitamins, minerals and essential fatty
acids that boost brain power but actually reduce the body's uptake of
nutrients that improve concentration, a study has found.


Thousands of children given medication to combat attention deficit
disorder might be better off simply improving their diet, according to
the research.


The Oxford University study showed that giving children essential fats
found in fish and nuts could improve their brain power.


Their ability to learn was increased and their behaviour dramatically
improved by supplementing their diets with such fats.


Startling results


Startling results in children who were underachieving and in some
cases being disruptive were recorded after just three months.


The study involved more than 100 British children battling with
physical co-ordination problems.


They were given daily supplements rich in omega-3 essential fats that
are vital for brain development but have been reduced in the national
diet over the last couple of decades.


In the study, around 40 per cent of children given omega-3 supplements
made dramatic improvements in reading and spelling.


There was also a significant improvement in concentration and
behaviour, according to a report in this month's issue of the American
journal Pediatrics.


Researchers were led by Dr Alexandra Richardson, from Oxford
University's department of physiology.


"What we've shown is that you can improve behaviour and learning with
these oils," she said.


"Food affects behaviour. To ignore the role of nutrition is
indefensible. If you paid attention to diet you could really make a
difference."


Patrick Holford, who runs the Brain Bio Centre which tackles mental
health problems through nutrition, said: "We're seeing outrageous
imbalances in brain chemistry caused by the kinds of foods that sadly
millions of kids are eating, and no one's doing anything about it.


"These kids are digging their own graves with a knife and fork. We
know some fats found in processed and fried foods should be avoided.


"However, there are other fats that are essential and a deficiency can
negatively impact on a child's behaviour."


The study involved 117 children aged five to 12 in schools in County
Durham.


The children were of normal ability but underachieving and suspected
of having dyspraxia, a condition that affects co-ordination. It is
thought to affect at least 5 per cent of British pupils.


Even greater numbers have learning and behavioural disorders such as
dyslexia and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Half the
children were given omega-3 essential fats capsules for three months,
while the remainder were given "dummy" treatment with capsules of
olive oil.


Making progress


Those on omega-3s made up to ten months' progress in reading in three
months, compared with those taking olive oil who made normal progress.


When the children swapped treatments, there was a similar jump forward
for those transferred to omega-3s for the second three-month period.


After three months on the supplements, half showed such improvement
they were no longer classified as having problems.


In some cases, children improved their reading age by up to four
years.


Dr Richardson, who is also co-director of the Food and Behaviour
Research charity, said unhealthy dietary fats can actually displace
the healthy fats in the brain.


Known as trans fats, they are mostly found in processed foods such as
crisps, biscuits and cakes.


Many teenagers get 40 per cent of their calories from fat.


The researchers are worried that such poor diets could permanently
damage brain development.


Still, no blinding, placebo, etc.

As for food and AD/HD, the diagnostic protocol for AD/HD provides that
when all other causes of the behaviors have been ruled out, and the
behaviors still exist, then the diagnosis of AD/HD is appropriate.

If food is shown to cause the behaviors, then it is NOT AD/HD.


And this one with placebo?

"Omega-3 fish oil 'can treat ADHD'", Daily Telegraph, June 21, 2006,
Link: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001028,00.html

OMEGA-3 fish oil can be more effective than stimulant drugs commonly
prescribed for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD), according to new research.

The University of South Australia research tested a supplement called
eye q, a combination of omega-3 fish oil and omega-6 evening primrose
oil.

The supplement was tested on 132 ADHD children over a period of 15 to
30 weeks.

At the end of the 30 week period, almost half of the children had
reduced ADHD symptoms, according to their parents who completed
assessment questionnaires for the study.

For the initial 15 weeks of the study, children were divided into
three groups: one taking eye q; another eye q and a low dose multi
vitamin/mineral supplement and; a third group taking a placebo.

After 15 weeks, all children went on eye q and the multi vitamin/
minerals.

"Around 30 per cent of the children had shown strong positive
treatment effects on the core ADHD symptoms of inattention and
hyperactivity-impulsivity compared to the placebo group after 15
weeks," study leader Natalie Sinn said.

"These effects were mirrored in the placebo group following their
switch to active treatment, and the fish oil groups continued to
improve after taking the supplement for a further 15 weeks.

"According to the data, the multi vitamin/mineral supplement had no
additional effects."

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Old March 12th 07, 04:06 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Jeff
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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What makes one group who calls themselves "Christian" more "Christian"
than another group?


Caring


I don't see any evidence that the one Christian groups cares more than the
other.

Jeff

  #23  
Old March 12th 07, 05:00 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Karen R.
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Roman Bystrianyk wrote the following on 3/12/2007 11:46 AM:

And this one with placebo?

"Omega-3 fish oil 'can treat ADHD'", Daily Telegraph, June 21, 2006,
Link: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001028,00.html

OMEGA-3 fish oil can be more effective than stimulant drugs commonly
prescribed for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD), according to new research.


The key words here being "can be". Fish oil was the first thing I tried
with my ADD daughter. And it did help, but not enough. As did grape seed
extract. It wasn't until she started on prescription medication that she
was able to focus on a page long enough to read it. She was 10 at the time...

Karen R.
  #24  
Old March 12th 07, 05:03 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Seagull
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On Mar 12, 9:06 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message

news:XxeJh.7517$t8.2836@trndny02...

Jeff wrote:


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:81eJh.4039$0W5.287@trndny05...
...


What makes one group who calls themselves "Christian" more "Christian"
than another group?


Caring


I don't see any evidence that the one Christian groups cares more than the
other.

Jeff

Hello, my name is Seagull, I am jumping into this post, I was
wondering if any of you have ADHD?

  #25  
Old March 12th 07, 05:18 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Seagull
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On Mar 12, 10:00 am, "Karen R." wrote:
Roman Bystrianyk wrote the following on 3/12/2007 11:46 AM:

And this one with placebo?


"Omega-3 fish oil 'can treat ADHD'", Daily Telegraph, June 21, 2006,
Link:http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001028,00.html


OMEGA-3 fish oil can be more effective than stimulant drugs commonly
prescribed for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD), according to new research.


The key words here being "can be". Fish oil was the first thing I tried
with my ADD daughter. And it did help, but not enough. As did grape seed
extract. It wasn't until she started on prescription medication that she
was able to focus on a page long enough to read it. She was 10 at the time...

Karen R.


I am the same way, Essential Fatty Acids help but not enough, I've
tried many things beside prescription. mostly because of what other
people say bad about prescription makes me worry I am doing harm to
myself. I've found that medication works best. Only when I take the
time to improve things like reading. If I don't take the steps to
improve the reason for taking the medication. The medication becomes a
negative.

  #26  
Old March 12th 07, 10:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Mark Probert
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Roman Bystrianyk wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:12 am, Mark Probert
wrote:
Roman Bystrianyk wrote:
On Mar 12, 7:56 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Roman Bystrianyk" wrote in message
oups.com...
While the research concerning ADD and ADHD has been around for decades,
DavidSon said he observed increased diagnoses in the mid-1980s and into
the 1990s. "Initially, young boys were primarily the ones diagnosed
followed by girls and then adults. I cannot speak for other practices,
but I noted the growth was consistent with the expansion and
development
of video games. Additionally, you must consider the contributions of
poor
diet and faulty-discipline to ADHD. Diet and discipline have declined
over time. It is a matter of record that our children have higher
incidents of obesity, and don't mention the condition of
child-discipline
in the nation."
Diet, family discipline, and video games don't cause ADHD.
This study maybe of interest to you. Enjoy your day.
Roman Bystrianyk, "Flax seed oil and vitamin C improve ADHD", Health
Sentinel, January 8, 2006,
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or ADHD, is the most
commonly diagnosed behavioral disorder in children. The diagnosis
affects approximately 3-5% of school-going children. Studies have
established that certain long-chained fatty acids are critical for
normal brain development. Additional studies have show that
deficiencies or imbalances in these fatty acids contribute to ADHD.
Fatty acids, docosahexaenoic acid or DHA and eicosapentanoic acid or
EPA, are key for normal brain development and found in large amounts
in fish oil. Alpha linolenic acid, or ALA, is a precursor fatty acid
to DHA and is found in large amounts in flax seed oil. Children can
convert ALA to DHA, but the conversion is dependent on adequate
amounts of ALA and a low level of linoleic acid, or LA, in the diet.
LA is found in large amounts in corn, safflower, sunflower, and canola
oils.
A study in the January 2006 issue of the journal Prostaglandins,
Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids, examined 30 children diagnosed
with ADHD along with 30 healthy control children. They were given flax
oil supplements containing 200 mg of ALA along with 25 mg of vitamin C
two times a day for 3 months. A trained clinical psychologist analyzed
the children's behavior before and after the 3 months. The children's
blood cells were also analyzed before and after the supplementation to
determine the change in fatty acids.
It was found that at the end of the 3 months there was a "significant
increase" in the levels of both EPA and DHA. All ADHD measures were
improved after the 3 months. "Individual scores of Inattention,
Impulsivity, Restlessness and Self-Control reduced significantly post-
supplementation. SI [social problems] and I [learning problems] scores
constituting RPS [Related Problem Score] were found to be
significantly decreasing in the post-supplementation group."
All the children in the enrolled study completed the 3 months of
supplementation with no dropouts. The supplements were well accepted
by all the children and there were no side effects.
The authors conclude that, "All the symptoms like impulsivity,
restlessness, inattention, self-control, psychosomatic problems and
learning problems showed highly significant improvement. Social
problems and learning problems together constituted-related problems
score also dropped significantly. There is considerable evidence that
polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation brought about improvement
in educational and behavioral problems among children with
developmental coordination disorder and reduction in ADHD-related
symptoms."
SOURCE: Prostaglandins, Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids,
January 2006
This was a poor study design. The control group (normal kids) was different
than the treatment group (ADHD kids). The control group and the treatment
group should both have been kids with ADHD. The kids should have been
randomly assigned to one group or the other. And both groups should have
recieved pills (without anyone knowing what was in them).
The results of the study as done are useless.
Jeff
And perhaps this report ...
Jenny Hope, "Junk food diet 'makes children badly behaved'", Daily
Mail, May 3, 2005,
Link:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...omenfamily.htm...
Diets high in processed foods are causing bad behaviour and learning
difficulties in children, scientists have warned.
They claim junk food stops the brain working properly, leading to
underachievement and a host of disorders.
Such foods not only lack the vitamins, minerals and essential fatty
acids that boost brain power but actually reduce the body's uptake of
nutrients that improve concentration, a study has found.
Thousands of children given medication to combat attention deficit
disorder might be better off simply improving their diet, according to
the research.
The Oxford University study showed that giving children essential fats
found in fish and nuts could improve their brain power.
Their ability to learn was increased and their behaviour dramatically
improved by supplementing their diets with such fats.
Startling results
Startling results in children who were underachieving and in some
cases being disruptive were recorded after just three months.
The study involved more than 100 British children battling with
physical co-ordination problems.
They were given daily supplements rich in omega-3 essential fats that
are vital for brain development but have been reduced in the national
diet over the last couple of decades.
In the study, around 40 per cent of children given omega-3 supplements
made dramatic improvements in reading and spelling.
There was also a significant improvement in concentration and
behaviour, according to a report in this month's issue of the American
journal Pediatrics.
Researchers were led by Dr Alexandra Richardson, from Oxford
University's department of physiology.
"What we've shown is that you can improve behaviour and learning with
these oils," she said.
"Food affects behaviour. To ignore the role of nutrition is
indefensible. If you paid attention to diet you could really make a
difference."
Patrick Holford, who runs the Brain Bio Centre which tackles mental
health problems through nutrition, said: "We're seeing outrageous
imbalances in brain chemistry caused by the kinds of foods that sadly
millions of kids are eating, and no one's doing anything about it.
"These kids are digging their own graves with a knife and fork. We
know some fats found in processed and fried foods should be avoided.
"However, there are other fats that are essential and a deficiency can
negatively impact on a child's behaviour."
The study involved 117 children aged five to 12 in schools in County
Durham.
The children were of normal ability but underachieving and suspected
of having dyspraxia, a condition that affects co-ordination. It is
thought to affect at least 5 per cent of British pupils.
Even greater numbers have learning and behavioural disorders such as
dyslexia and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Half the
children were given omega-3 essential fats capsules for three months,
while the remainder were given "dummy" treatment with capsules of
olive oil.
Making progress
Those on omega-3s made up to ten months' progress in reading in three
months, compared with those taking olive oil who made normal progress.
When the children swapped treatments, there was a similar jump forward
for those transferred to omega-3s for the second three-month period.
After three months on the supplements, half showed such improvement
they were no longer classified as having problems.
In some cases, children improved their reading age by up to four
years.
Dr Richardson, who is also co-director of the Food and Behaviour
Research charity, said unhealthy dietary fats can actually displace
the healthy fats in the brain.
Known as trans fats, they are mostly found in processed foods such as
crisps, biscuits and cakes.
Many teenagers get 40 per cent of their calories from fat.
The researchers are worried that such poor diets could permanently
damage brain development.

Still, no blinding, placebo, etc.

As for food and AD/HD, the diagnostic protocol for AD/HD provides that
when all other causes of the behaviors have been ruled out, and the
behaviors still exist, then the diagnosis of AD/HD is appropriate.

If food is shown to cause the behaviors, then it is NOT AD/HD.


And this one with placebo?


I would prefer to refer to this as "product testing" rather than a
study. They are "testing" a specific retail product.

This "study" is more than likely sponsored by the manufacturer. Using
the typical alt logic applied in these newsgroups, it is therefore
useless, except to promote sales.

However, let's discuss it anyway.

"Omega-3 fish oil 'can treat ADHD'", Daily Telegraph, June 21, 2006,
Link: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001028,00.html

OMEGA-3 fish oil can be more effective than stimulant drugs commonly
prescribed for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD), according to new research.

The University of South Australia research tested a supplement called
eye q, a combination of omega-3 fish oil and omega-6 evening primrose
oil.

The supplement was tested on 132 ADHD children over a period of 15 to
30 weeks.

At the end of the 30 week period, almost half of the children had
reduced ADHD symptoms, according to their parents who completed
assessment questionnaires for the study.


Which half would that be?

For the initial 15 weeks of the study, children were divided into
three groups: one taking eye q; another eye q and a low dose multi
vitamin/mineral supplement and; a third group taking a placebo.

After 15 weeks, all children went on eye q and the multi vitamin/
minerals.


What research model would this be? The effect on the placebo group is
not mentioned.

"Around 30 per cent of the children had shown strong positive
treatment effects on the core ADHD symptoms of inattention and
hyperactivity-impulsivity compared to the placebo group after 15
weeks," study leader Natalie Sinn said.


A nutritionist who is hyperfocused on fish oil.

"These effects were mirrored in the placebo group following their
switch to active treatment, and the fish oil groups continued to
improve after taking the supplement for a further 15 weeks.

"According to the data, the multi vitamin/mineral supplement had no
additional effects."


Would be nice to see the data.

BTW, Natalie Sinn gets ZERO hits on GoogleScholar.



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Old March 12th 07, 10:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Mark Probert
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Seagull wrote:
On Mar 12, 9:06 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message

news:XxeJh.7517$t8.2836@trndny02...

Jeff wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:81eJh.4039$0W5.287@trndny05...
...
What makes one group who calls themselves "Christian" more "Christian"
than another group?
Caring

I don't see any evidence that the one Christian groups cares more than the
other.

Jeff

Hello, my name is Seagull, I am jumping into this post, I was
wondering if any of you have ADHD?


Some in a.s.a.d do, others do not. Some are parents of AD/HDers.
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Old March 13th 07, 12:03 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.kids
Peter Bowditch
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Mark Probert wrote:

Roman Bystrianyk wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:12 am, Mark Probert
wrote:
Roman Bystrianyk wrote:
On Mar 12, 7:56 am, "Jeff" wrote:
"Roman Bystrianyk" wrote in message
oups.com...
While the research concerning ADD and ADHD has been around for decades,
DavidSon said he observed increased diagnoses in the mid-1980s and into
the 1990s. "Initially, young boys were primarily the ones diagnosed
followed by girls and then adults. I cannot speak for other practices,
but I noted the growth was consistent with the expansion and
development
of video games. Additionally, you must consider the contributions of
poor
diet and faulty-discipline to ADHD. Diet and discipline have declined
over time. It is a matter of record that our children have higher
incidents of obesity, and don't mention the condition of
child-discipline
in the nation."
Diet, family discipline, and video games don't cause ADHD.
This study maybe of interest to you. Enjoy your day.
Roman Bystrianyk, "Flax seed oil and vitamin C improve ADHD", Health
Sentinel, January 8, 2006,
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or ADHD, is the most
commonly diagnosed behavioral disorder in children. The diagnosis
affects approximately 3-5% of school-going children. Studies have
established that certain long-chained fatty acids are critical for
normal brain development. Additional studies have show that
deficiencies or imbalances in these fatty acids contribute to ADHD.
Fatty acids, docosahexaenoic acid or DHA and eicosapentanoic acid or
EPA, are key for normal brain development and found in large amounts
in fish oil. Alpha linolenic acid, or ALA, is a precursor fatty acid
to DHA and is found in large amounts in flax seed oil. Children can
convert ALA to DHA, but the conversion is dependent on adequate
amounts of ALA and a low level of linoleic acid, or LA, in the diet.
LA is found in large amounts in corn, safflower, sunflower, and canola
oils.
A study in the January 2006 issue of the journal Prostaglandins,
Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids, examined 30 children diagnosed
with ADHD along with 30 healthy control children. They were given flax
oil supplements containing 200 mg of ALA along with 25 mg of vitamin C
two times a day for 3 months. A trained clinical psychologist analyzed
the children's behavior before and after the 3 months. The children's
blood cells were also analyzed before and after the supplementation to
determine the change in fatty acids.
It was found that at the end of the 3 months there was a "significant
increase" in the levels of both EPA and DHA. All ADHD measures were
improved after the 3 months. "Individual scores of Inattention,
Impulsivity, Restlessness and Self-Control reduced significantly post-
supplementation. SI [social problems] and I [learning problems] scores
constituting RPS [Related Problem Score] were found to be
significantly decreasing in the post-supplementation group."
All the children in the enrolled study completed the 3 months of
supplementation with no dropouts. The supplements were well accepted
by all the children and there were no side effects.
The authors conclude that, "All the symptoms like impulsivity,
restlessness, inattention, self-control, psychosomatic problems and
learning problems showed highly significant improvement. Social
problems and learning problems together constituted-related problems
score also dropped significantly. There is considerable evidence that
polyunsaturated fatty acid supplementation brought about improvement
in educational and behavioral problems among children with
developmental coordination disorder and reduction in ADHD-related
symptoms."
SOURCE: Prostaglandins, Leukotrienes and Essential Fatty Acids,
January 2006
This was a poor study design. The control group (normal kids) was different
than the treatment group (ADHD kids). The control group and the treatment
group should both have been kids with ADHD. The kids should have been
randomly assigned to one group or the other. And both groups should have
recieved pills (without anyone knowing what was in them).
The results of the study as done are useless.
Jeff
And perhaps this report ...
Jenny Hope, "Junk food diet 'makes children badly behaved'", Daily
Mail, May 3, 2005,
Link:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...omenfamily.htm...
Diets high in processed foods are causing bad behaviour and learning
difficulties in children, scientists have warned.
They claim junk food stops the brain working properly, leading to
underachievement and a host of disorders.
Such foods not only lack the vitamins, minerals and essential fatty
acids that boost brain power but actually reduce the body's uptake of
nutrients that improve concentration, a study has found.
Thousands of children given medication to combat attention deficit
disorder might be better off simply improving their diet, according to
the research.
The Oxford University study showed that giving children essential fats
found in fish and nuts could improve their brain power.
Their ability to learn was increased and their behaviour dramatically
improved by supplementing their diets with such fats.
Startling results
Startling results in children who were underachieving and in some
cases being disruptive were recorded after just three months.
The study involved more than 100 British children battling with
physical co-ordination problems.
They were given daily supplements rich in omega-3 essential fats that
are vital for brain development but have been reduced in the national
diet over the last couple of decades.
In the study, around 40 per cent of children given omega-3 supplements
made dramatic improvements in reading and spelling.
There was also a significant improvement in concentration and
behaviour, according to a report in this month's issue of the American
journal Pediatrics.
Researchers were led by Dr Alexandra Richardson, from Oxford
University's department of physiology.
"What we've shown is that you can improve behaviour and learning with
these oils," she said.
"Food affects behaviour. To ignore the role of nutrition is
indefensible. If you paid attention to diet you could really make a
difference."
Patrick Holford, who runs the Brain Bio Centre which tackles mental
health problems through nutrition, said: "We're seeing outrageous
imbalances in brain chemistry caused by the kinds of foods that sadly
millions of kids are eating, and no one's doing anything about it.
"These kids are digging their own graves with a knife and fork. We
know some fats found in processed and fried foods should be avoided.
"However, there are other fats that are essential and a deficiency can
negatively impact on a child's behaviour."
The study involved 117 children aged five to 12 in schools in County
Durham.
The children were of normal ability but underachieving and suspected
of having dyspraxia, a condition that affects co-ordination. It is
thought to affect at least 5 per cent of British pupils.
Even greater numbers have learning and behavioural disorders such as
dyslexia and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Half the
children were given omega-3 essential fats capsules for three months,
while the remainder were given "dummy" treatment with capsules of
olive oil.
Making progress
Those on omega-3s made up to ten months' progress in reading in three
months, compared with those taking olive oil who made normal progress.
When the children swapped treatments, there was a similar jump forward
for those transferred to omega-3s for the second three-month period.
After three months on the supplements, half showed such improvement
they were no longer classified as having problems.
In some cases, children improved their reading age by up to four
years.
Dr Richardson, who is also co-director of the Food and Behaviour
Research charity, said unhealthy dietary fats can actually displace
the healthy fats in the brain.
Known as trans fats, they are mostly found in processed foods such as
crisps, biscuits and cakes.
Many teenagers get 40 per cent of their calories from fat.
The researchers are worried that such poor diets could permanently
damage brain development.
Still, no blinding, placebo, etc.

As for food and AD/HD, the diagnostic protocol for AD/HD provides that
when all other causes of the behaviors have been ruled out, and the
behaviors still exist, then the diagnosis of AD/HD is appropriate.

If food is shown to cause the behaviors, then it is NOT AD/HD.


And this one with placebo?


I would prefer to refer to this as "product testing" rather than a
study. They are "testing" a specific retail product.

This "study" is more than likely sponsored by the manufacturer. Using
the typical alt logic applied in these newsgroups, it is therefore
useless, except to promote sales.

However, let's discuss it anyway.

"Omega-3 fish oil 'can treat ADHD'", Daily Telegraph, June 21, 2006,
Link: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...001028,00.html

OMEGA-3 fish oil can be more effective than stimulant drugs commonly
prescribed for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
(ADHD), according to new research.

The University of South Australia research tested a supplement called
eye q, a combination of omega-3 fish oil and omega-6 evening primrose
oil.

The supplement was tested on 132 ADHD children over a period of 15 to
30 weeks.

At the end of the 30 week period, almost half of the children had
reduced ADHD symptoms, according to their parents who completed
assessment questionnaires for the study.


Which half would that be?

For the initial 15 weeks of the study, children were divided into
three groups: one taking eye q; another eye q and a low dose multi
vitamin/mineral supplement and; a third group taking a placebo.

After 15 weeks, all children went on eye q and the multi vitamin/
minerals.


What research model would this be? The effect on the placebo group is
not mentioned.

"Around 30 per cent of the children had shown strong positive
treatment effects on the core ADHD symptoms of inattention and
hyperactivity-impulsivity compared to the placebo group after 15
weeks," study leader Natalie Sinn said.


A nutritionist who is hyperfocused on fish oil.

"These effects were mirrored in the placebo group following their
switch to active treatment, and the fish oil groups continued to
improve after taking the supplement for a further 15 weeks.

"According to the data, the multi vitamin/mineral supplement had no
additional effects."


Would be nice to see the data.

BTW, Natalie Sinn gets ZERO hits on GoogleScholar.



She's not too quacky,

http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/sta...e=natalie.sinn

What worries me is that the study could have been influenced by the
suppliers of the Eye-Q product, who are, of course, touting the
as-yet-unpublished research to the rooftops.

http://www.alternativehealth.com.au/Product/eyeQ.htm

A word on pricing:

180 Eye-Q tablets (400mg fish oil, 100mg evening primrose oil) $62.95

And here's the ones I take:

200 Nature's Own fish oil (1000mg fish oil) $20.25 (That's recommended
retail price - I pay less)
http://www.naturesown.com.au/prod_details.php?ID=0593

200 Nature's Own EPO (1000mg) $29.00
http://www.naturesown.com.au/prod_de...0560,0561,0562

It doesn't look like Eye-Q is a bargain, but I didn't expect it to be.
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Hey, Mark, thanks for the link. Bible studies can be a challenge when
the brain won't slow down enough. I've found that I can focus better
in our adult Sunday school class if I'm spinning with my drop
spindle. It keeps my hands busy enough that I can focus on the
discussion without worrying about something to fiddle with. I'll have
to see if there's something in the Bible Studies link of that site
that would work for me.

Kitten

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March 7, 2007 Flower Mound, Texas. Recently, the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA) announced additional precautions concerning drugs
prescribed for Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) and Attention Deficit
Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Apparently, the government agency is
working closely with drug manufacturers to develop new patient
medication guidelines, and the FDA is calling for enhanced product
labeling about the potential adverse affects. Among problems cited,
adults with serious heart ailments, and those with other risk factors
were experiencing sudden death in reports reviewed by the agency.

Excellent. The FDA is doing its job. Of course, these are known side
effects of the drugs.


What were they doing in years past? Like last July?

O course Jeff knows that, but once again is eager to bless the FDA.


Thank you for reading my mind. You need to take more mind-reading courses.
You're not doing a good job of it.

The FDA is far from a perfect organization. I never said otherwise.


The FDA also cited a slightly increased risk (1 of 1000) for drug
related psychiatric adverse events such as hearing voices,
unexplainable suspicion, and becoming manic. This was also evident in
patients without previous psychiatric problems.

Ditto. This is a good reason to stop the drugs.


http://add.about.com/od/2006newsstor...boxwarning.htm

Dr. Steven B. DavidSon, the author of the Christ-based Counseling
volumes, and Director of the National Association of Certified
Christ-based Counselors explains that these are not new revelations.
"Actually, it is about time the Federal Government elevated the
awareness about drugs used for ADD and ADHD."

Well, doctors should already know this.


They are too busy proteting the FDA just like you are.


No. I am busy protecting kids, by letting parents get accurate
information, not the crap you spew.

The FDA has known, but public awareness gave then little choice but to
*finally* get off their duff. Plus
they have been caught with their invested interest.


Given our Christ-based perspective, attention deficit has been with us
since the first human beings where distracted. No doubt, there are
persons who suffer severely, but parties need to seriously assess the
risk-reward factor when considering the use of psychiatric drugs,
particularly with children." DavidSon alludes to the work by authors
Peter R Breggin and David Cohen in their book, Your Drug Could Be Your
Problem. How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications.

That's true of any drugs. I have read one of Peter Breggin's books. He
clearly doesn't, IMHO, understand ADHD.


ROTFLOL.

He tells it like it is.


He tells it like he sees it. And what he sees is the royalties he gets
when his books sell.



While the research concerning ADD and ADHD has been around for decades,
DavidSon said he observed increased diagnoses in the mid-1980s and into
the 1990s. "Initially, young boys were primarily the ones diagnosed
followed by girls and then adults. I cannot speak for other practices,
but I noted the growth was consistent with the expansion and
development of video games. Additionally, you must consider the
contributions of poor diet and faulty-discipline to ADHD. Diet and
discipline have declined over time. It is a matter of record that our
children have higher incidents of obesity, and don't mention the
condition of child-discipline in the nation."

Diet, family discipline, and video games don't cause ADHD.


Diet, family discipline and video games all helped contribute to it.


And with a normal diet, normal family discipline and no video games, he
would still have ADHD.


This was also a period when more people because aware of ADHD.


You must have meant became, not because.


Yes, thank you.


DavidSon also briefly addressed conditions where parents are encouraged
to induce drugs where children are inattentive. Some parents lean
toward medicinal therapy with the hope of improving grade performance.
"When asked by parents about my Christ-based perspective, I suggest a
simple observation such as 'how long can your child play a favorite
video game?' If the child can play for extended periods of time and
maintain scoring, the problem may be an educational-delivery deficit,
and not an attention functioning deficit."

That's nonsense. Kids with ADHD can sustain concentration on some things
for a long period of time. In fact, this hyperattention is part of ADHD.


Look up the symptomes of ADHD.


Having difficulty with concentration does not mean that you can't
concentrate on some things. Video games is one of the things that people
with ADHD can concentrate on for a long period of time. TV is another.

I have heard people say, "My kid can't have ADHD because he can
concentrate on video games and TV for hours on end. If he didn't have to
stop to eat and pee, he would play from when he gets up until he goes to
bed." Being able to concentrate on TV or video games is called
hyperconcentration, and is a symptom of ADHD.

Jeff



 




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