traveling overseas with 1 year old (with Dad)

ok...do not give your child antihistamines to sleep during the flight.
The reason is this. These products can backfire on you. The combination of
canned air, strange sensations and new enviroment can reverse teh sleepy
effect and turn your kid into a bouncing off the wall lunitic for a couple
of hours.

Our doctor recomended that we take a sucker with us. Something like cherry
or grape.
Babies (ever one year olds) may have ear presure issues. if they will not or
are tot old to suck
a pacifier or bottle, a sucker may help them through take off and landing.

good luck
jojo

Do you *have* to travel with him at this time? If he's sick all the time
now, how do you think he'll be in China!!!



"C Du" wrote in message
. com...
Thanks for all who replied.

From what I have read here, I think I should go ahead and buy him a seat.
Now the question is whether I should bring his Britax Marathon Roundabout
carseat into the airplane. It is certified to be used on airplane, but it
is
rather big. If I do bring it, then I have to bring a stroller just to
carry
it. I have several strollers and the only one capable to even carry that
is
Graco Highland and it is a rather large stroller and they don't match each
other. Anyway I look at this, it is not practical to bring his car seat
along with this stroller. So then I am left with another question: how
would
the 1-year-old sit in the seat I get him? I am sure the seat belt alone
will
never hold him secure. Should I go buy another car seat? He's 19.5 lb now
and about 28" long. He started walking about a month ago.

Well, I will get a letter from the mother indicating he'll be traveling
with
me alone. Mom is a graduate student and holding student visa. If she
leaves
the country now, she'll never be able to get back in (not until I get my
citizenship in 2 years). As to whether the mom can bare parting with him
this long, this is just the reality (and she has to be in school fulltime,
otherwise illegal).... it's a very hard decision but we felt that we need
to
keep him away from the day care as long as possible (until maybe 2). He is
in daycare now for about 2 months and sick most of the time (he's 10.5
months old). Besides, he'll get more attention and care by staying with
his
grandparents for a short while...

Thanks again.

Will

"Banty" wrote in message
...
In article , Moo
says...

Some people recommend bulkhead
seats, but
I prefer regular ones where you can put things under the seat in front
and the
arm rest folds up. Also, most airlines don't let kids play on the
floor anymore, so the extra legroom of the bulkheads is not so useful.

Ditto - I did the bulkhead thang once while flying with my baby son and
wondered
what the hey people who had been recommending that were thinking. I
didn't have
a place to put my long legs, and stuff that I normally would stash under
the
seat in front had to go into an overhead bin, and that's a major hassle
to
get
to. The main advantage is that there is no person in front to recline
back.
But this kind of space issue is why it's so important to buy a seat for
the
baby.

Banty

In article , dejablues says...

Do you *have* to travel with him at this time? If he's sick all the time
now, how do you think he'll be in China!!!

Yeah. I gotta say that, although I can understand lots of reasons someone may
want to have baby with grandma in China, especially if one is a full time
graduate student, avoiding daycare exposures wouldn't be one that made any
sense.

Banty

C Du wrote:

Thanks for all who replied.

From what I have read here, I think I should go ahead and buy him a seat.
Now the question is whether I should bring his Britax Marathon Roundabout
carseat into the airplane. It is certified to be used on airplane, but it is
rather big. If I do bring it, then I have to bring a stroller just to carry
it.

We travel with our Britax Roundabout. We strap it into one of those
little luggage carrier things, along with one of our carryon bags. Then
bubs goes in the stroller.

I have several strollers and the only one capable to even carry that is
Graco Highland and it is a rather large stroller and they don't match each
other. Anyway I look at this, it is not practical to bring his car seat
along with this stroller. So then I am left with another question: how would
the 1-year-old sit in the seat I get him? I am sure the seat belt alone will
never hold him secure. Should I go buy another car seat? He's 19.5 lb now
and about 28" long. He started walking about a month ago.

Our stroller and carseat don't match (but we always travel with both
parents, so it's not such a huge deal).

I don't think they would allow a 10.5 month old to sit in a seat by
themselves, with the aircraft seatbelt holding him in. It might be a
pain for part of the flight (the transfers) dealing with all the stuff,
but I've found airport staff and the flight attendants are very helpful.
--
It's Tis Herself

In article ,
Banty wrote:

In article , dejablues says...

Do you *have* to travel with him at this time? If he's sick all the time
now, how do you think he'll be in China!!!

Yeah. I gotta say that, although I can understand lots of reasons someone may
want to have baby with grandma in China, especially if one is a full time
graduate student, avoiding daycare exposures wouldn't be one that made any
sense.

Banty


I got the impression that it was to avoid the day care *experience* more
than the day care expense.

I went back and read the original posting, and my impression was that
the OP was concerned that his child was getting sick too often *because*
he was in day care, and having the baby cared for by family members in
China was preferred.

meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

In article ,
(Elana Kehoe) wrote:

Jenn wrote:

Not buying a seat is a mistake for a trip this long and a terrible
imposition on the people around you who will have to contend with a
squirming sticky baby invading their space [where do you plan to put
this basket? or your child to nap? in your neighbor's foot space?

Side note: a lot of long haul airlines have bassinet/baskets that hang
from the bulkhead or from the overhead compartments in certain rows.

they are not going to hold a one year old child

In article ,
(Elana Kehoe) wrote:

Jenn wrote:

Not buying a seat is a mistake for a trip this long and a terrible
imposition on the people around you who will have to contend with a
squirming sticky baby invading their space [where do you plan to put
this basket? or your child to nap? in your neighbor's foot space?

Side note: a lot of long haul airlines have bassinet/baskets that hang
from the bulkhead or from the overhead compartments in certain rows.

I was once on a Kuwaiti Airlines plane where they literally placed a
basinet on the floor in front of my seat and the mother's seat -- we
were jammed up close to the bulkhead and I had quite literally no place
to put my feet except on top of the baby -- I was forced to place my
feet into the space of the person to my right -- and it was exceedingly
uncomfortable -- I can't imagine why they allow a baby to travel without
a seat purchase under these circumstances -- it is VERY inconsiderate to
try to travel this sort of time and distance with a toddler who doesn't
have his own seat

In article ,
"C Du" wrote:

Thanks for all who replied.

From what I have read here, I think I should go ahead and buy him a seat.
Now the question is whether I should bring his Britax Marathon Roundabout
carseat into the airplane. It is certified to be used on airplane, but it is
rather big. If I do bring it, then I have to bring a stroller just to carry
it. I have several strollers and the only one capable to even carry that is
Graco Highland and it is a rather large stroller and they don't match each
other. Anyway I look at this, it is not practical to bring his car seat
along with this stroller. So then I am left with another question: how would
the 1-year-old sit in the seat I get him? I am sure the seat belt alone will
never hold him secure. Should I go buy another car seat? He's 19.5 lb now
and about 28" long. He started walking about a month ago.

Well, I will get a letter from the mother indicating he'll be traveling with
me alone. Mom is a graduate student and holding student visa. If she leaves
the country now, she'll never be able to get back in (not until I get my
citizenship in 2 years). As to whether the mom can bare parting with him
this long, this is just the reality (and she has to be in school fulltime,
otherwise illegal).... it's a very hard decision but we felt that we need to
keep him away from the day care as long as possible (until maybe 2). He is
in daycare now for about 2 months and sick most of the time (he's 10.5
months old). Besides, he'll get more attention and care by staying with his
grandparents for a short while...

Thanks again.

Will

if you don't want to take the giant car seat -- I would just use the
regular seat belt -- it is not perfect, but it will hold the baby for
turbulence etc -- if you have a seat not on the bulkhead, you can lift
the armrest during flight and he can stretch out in his seat with his
head in your lap to nap- bulkhead seats don't have liftable arm rests



"Banty" wrote in message
...
In article , Moo says...

Some people recommend bulkhead
seats, but
I prefer regular ones where you can put things under the seat in front
and the
arm rest folds up. Also, most airlines don't let kids play on the
floor anymore, so the extra legroom of the bulkheads is not so useful.

Ditto - I did the bulkhead thang once while flying with my baby son and
wondered
what the hey people who had been recommending that were thinking. I
didn't have
a place to put my long legs, and stuff that I normally would stash under
the
seat in front had to go into an overhead bin, and that's a major hassle to
get
to. The main advantage is that there is no person in front to recline
back.
But this kind of space issue is why it's so important to buy a seat for
the
baby.

Banty

In article , dragonlady
says...

In article ,
Banty wrote:

In article , dejablues says...

Do you *have* to travel with him at this time? If he's sick all the time
now, how do you think he'll be in China!!!

Yeah. I gotta say that, although I can understand lots of reasons someone may
want to have baby with grandma in China, especially if one is a full time
graduate student, avoiding daycare exposures wouldn't be one that made any
sense.

Banty


I got the impression that it was to avoid the day care *experience* more
than the day care expense.

I said "avoiding daycare exposures"...

He didn't speak of expense (and neither did I) or even 'experience - he spoke of
exposure to illness. As another poster pointed out, putting the baby on an
airplane breathing recylced air for nearly a full day, to be transported to a
new country, with a whole new set of endemic illnesses, is pretty
counter-productive.

On the other hand, wanting to fly a child to for the sake of being under care of
a relative instead of child care at least makes sense in that transporting the
child to said relative in another country accomplishes that goal.


I went back and read the original posting, and my impression was that
the OP was concerned that his child was getting sick too often *because*
he was in day care, and having the baby cared for by family members in
China was preferred.

That's what doesn't make sense. Maybe in the medium term. But not in the short
term, and not in the long term unless they return to China, because when the
child reaches school age, he'll encounter all those bugs anyway.

Banty

Bring Grandma here.


"C Du" wrote in message
. com...
Thanks for all who replied.

From what I have read here, I think I should go ahead and buy him a seat.
Now the question is whether I should bring his Britax Marathon Roundabout
carseat into the airplane. It is certified to be used on airplane, but it
is
rather big. If I do bring it, then I have to bring a stroller just to
carry
it. I have several strollers and the only one capable to even carry that
is
Graco Highland and it is a rather large stroller and they don't match each
other. Anyway I look at this, it is not practical to bring his car seat
along with this stroller. So then I am left with another question: how
would
the 1-year-old sit in the seat I get him? I am sure the seat belt alone
will
never hold him secure. Should I go buy another car seat? He's 19.5 lb now
and about 28" long. He started walking about a month ago.

Well, I will get a letter from the mother indicating he'll be traveling
with
me alone. Mom is a graduate student and holding student visa. If she
leaves
the country now, she'll never be able to get back in (not until I get my
citizenship in 2 years). As to whether the mom can bare parting with him
this long, this is just the reality (and she has to be in school fulltime,
otherwise illegal).... it's a very hard decision but we felt that we need
to
keep him away from the day care as long as possible (until maybe 2). He is
in daycare now for about 2 months and sick most of the time (he's 10.5
months old). Besides, he'll get more attention and care by staying with
his
grandparents for a short while...

Thanks again.

Will

"Banty" wrote in message
...
In article , Moo
says...

Some people recommend bulkhead
seats, but
I prefer regular ones where you can put things under the seat in front
and the
arm rest folds up. Also, most airlines don't let kids play on the
floor anymore, so the extra legroom of the bulkheads is not so useful.

Ditto - I did the bulkhead thang once while flying with my baby son and
wondered
what the hey people who had been recommending that were thinking. I
didn't have
a place to put my long legs, and stuff that I normally would stash under
the
seat in front had to go into an overhead bin, and that's a major hassle
to
get
to. The main advantage is that there is no person in front to recline
back.
But this kind of space issue is why it's so important to buy a seat for
the
baby.

Banty