Barium Swallow Study/bottle

"Mary W." wrote in message
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DD1 wasn't a big bottle drinker, but she needed to because
I work out of the home. The bottle that worked best for us was
the playtex nurser system, with the disposable bags. That
way, we could get the nipple in her mouth and the squeeze
the bag to kind of squirt the milk in her mouth. We never could
get more than 2-4 ounces in her, but it was enough so that
she wasn't starving while I was gone. And, since this is a
one time thing, you certainly could try a faster nipple, see
if he's happier with it.

Thank you, Mary, you have some great suggestions. I think I will have to
purchase some new nipples.

Other things that helped: We'd prop DD up in her carseat,
turn on baby einstien and feed her that way. If she was
distracted, she was more likely to eat, and she did better
if she was propped up. Another thing to try is covering his
eyes with a cloth diaper - if he doesn't see the bottle, maybe
he'll be less antagonistic to it. And if you are around, he
probably wont want it.

I will have to try these.

Try different temperatures of milk. DD1 wanted the milk
surprisingly (to me) warm. And you said he didn't care for
your thawed milk, have you tried fresh or just refrigerated?
If he doesn't like that , does your milk taste/smell soapy?
It could be a lipase problem (helped by scalding your milk
as soon as you pump it). Also, since this isn't going to be
a regular thing, you could try formula or even, perhaps, some
watered down juice to see if that goes over better.

I did try the milk fresh one day and just refrigerated another time. Today
I tried it thawed and warmed up. He was pretty sick when I tried it the
first two times, so I kinda gave up this weekend. I didn't think of the
lipase problem. I'll have to go check that out. I might try the formula
and have hubby pick it up tonight.

Thanks again, Mary, you've been a big help!!

--
Joy

Rose 1-99
Iris 2-01
Spencer 3-03
Grant 9-05

"Joybelle" wrote:

I'm a long-time lurker, and I have four children. My fourth was born with
spina bifida at the end of September (he's almost 4 months), and along
with
that came some other stuff. He has Arnold-Chiari Malformation Type II,
and
it can affect swallowing and cause aspiration. He's been exclusively
breastfed, and he took quite well to it. I haven't bothered with a
bottle,
but now he needs to have a barium swallow test on Wednesday. I've been
trying since last Thursday to get him to take an avent bottle with
breastmilk with no success. I need some tips on how to get him to take a
bottle. Do I need to try a different bottle? Different nipple ( I think
this is a newborn, slower-flow one)? He can't have latex exposure, so it
can only be a silicone nipple. Would he take formula better? My hubby
and
daughter have had no success in getting him to take the bottle either.

I had trouble getting my son to take a bottle too. I got an Adiri
Breastbottle Nurser & I really like it. Seems much more like breastfeeding.

http://www.babysupermall.com/main/pr.../adi42443.html

Good luck.

rj

Joybelle wrote:

Thanks for the reply! I was told he'd need to take a bottle for the
contrast solution as breasts just did not work to get the contrast solution
into him. LOL We are tracking how he swallows and where it goes because of
the chiari.

Sure they will - you just need one of these:

http://www.positivelybreastfeeding.c...eeding/SNS.htm

I did NOT pay that much for mine - I think it was $12 or $15. It has a
much smaller resevoir. Check with whoever rents pumps in your town -
in our town, it's a particular grocery store chain, and they carry all
the SNSes, the pumps, etc. It might be the hospital.

Anyway, you put the barium in the resevoir, you tape the tube (it's
really small and flexible) to your nipple, you latch him on, and away
you go.

Amy

Amy wrote:
Joybelle wrote:

Thanks for the reply! I was told he'd need to take a bottle for the
contrast solution as breasts just did not work to get the contrast solution
into him. LOL We are tracking how he swallows and where it goes because of
the chiari.

Sure they will - you just need one of these:

http://www.positivelybreastfeeding.c...eeding/SNS.htm

I did NOT pay that much for mine - I think it was $12 or $15. It has a
much smaller resevoir. Check with whoever rents pumps in your town -
in our town, it's a particular grocery store chain, and they carry all
the SNSes, the pumps, etc. It might be the hospital.

Right, because it was this one:

http://www.positivelybreastfeeding.c...StarterSNS.htm

That's the one you want.

Hope the test turns out well for your little guy...

Amy

I don't know what the barium will taste like, I had to swallow die for a CT
once and though it wasn't unpleasant it was significantly different from
anything else that I'd think however compliant a child was it would have
been a struggle.

I think you need more details of the volume he needs and then consider SNS,
syringe, as well as other nipples, but I honestly think, that even if he was
an angel with a bottle that he'd probably still not tolerate something
different coming out of it. We could never trick Nathanael by mixing stuff
with milk, or orange juice, giving things on there own was easier because
there was less volume, though sadly at a certain range of ages it was a case
of pinning him down.


Cheers

Anne

"Joybelle" wrote in message
...
I'm a long-time lurker, and I have four children. My fourth was born with
spina bifida at the end of September (he's almost 4 months), and along
with
that came some other stuff. He has Arnold-Chiari Malformation Type II,
and
it can affect swallowing and cause aspiration. He's been exclusively
breastfed, and he took quite well to it. I haven't bothered with a
bottle,
but now he needs to have a barium swallow test on Wednesday. I've been
trying since last Thursday to get him to take an avent bottle with
breastmilk with no success. I need some tips on how to get him to take a
bottle. Do I need to try a different bottle? Different nipple ( I think
this is a newborn, slower-flow one)? He can't have latex exposure, so it
can only be a silicone nipple. Would he take formula better? My hubby
and
daughter have had no success in getting him to take the bottle either.

No experience here Joy, but all the best! I'm glad BF is going so well for
Grant. He may be going through a lot, but I think it's wonderful that for
all the nasty objects he may have prodded at him, he has the constant
comfort of your breast. That must give him a lot of security in a scary
world.


--
Amy
Mum to Carlos born sleeping 20/11/02,
& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
http://www.freewebs.com/carlos2002/
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/ana%5Fj%5F2004/
My blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/querer-hijo-querer-hija/

As you can imagine, dogs and cats often will not willingly eat the
barium-contaminated food I mix up for them if I want to get an esophagram
or gastrogram. But I find that if I put the barium in a syringe and squirt
it into their mouths while wrapping their faces in a towel to catch any
stray drips so as not to get it all over their fur - enough generally goes
down that I can get a decent picture. So, you know - what happens if you
syringe a little liquid into his mouth? Surely not ALL of it comes back
out?

--
Hillary Israeli, VMD
Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
too dark to read." --Groucho Marx

"Hillary Israeli" wrote in message
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As you can imagine, dogs and cats often will not willingly eat the
barium-contaminated food I mix up for them if I want to get an esophagram
or gastrogram. But I find that if I put the barium in a syringe and squirt
it into their mouths while wrapping their faces in a towel to catch any
stray drips so as not to get it all over their fur - enough generally goes
down that I can get a decent picture. So, you know - what happens if you
syringe a little liquid into his mouth? Surely not ALL of it comes back
out?

I'm thinking the syringe is going to work the best myself. When I spoke to
the NP yesterday, she said they'd try the bottle first (that's when he gags
and spits the most), but I've gotten pretty darn good at getting his
antibiotics down with a syringe. I guess we'll see if I'm right tomorrow.

Thanks for the input, Hillary!


--
Joy

Rose 1-99
Iris 2-01
Spencer 3-03
Grant 9-05

"Mum of Two" wrote in message
...

No experience here Joy, but all the best! I'm glad BF is going so well for
Grant. He may be going through a lot, but I think it's wonderful that for
all the nasty objects he may have prodded at him, he has the constant
comfort of your breast. That must give him a lot of security in a scary
world.

Thank you, Amy! It gives ME a lot of security in a scary world that he
nurses so well and finds comfort from breastfeeding. That is one thing I
stressed about before he was born because I worried the whole breastfeeding
thing would be sabotaged. As it turns out, he was born an expert.

--
Joy

Rose 1-99
Iris 2-01
Spencer 3-03
Grant 9-05

"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
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I don't know what the barium will taste like, I had to swallow die for a
CT
once and though it wasn't unpleasant it was significantly different from
anything else that I'd think however compliant a child was it would have
been a struggle.


I think you need more details of the volume he needs and then consider
SNS,
syringe, as well as other nipples, but I honestly think, that even if he
was
an angel with a bottle that he'd probably still not tolerate something
different coming out of it. We could never trick Nathanael by mixing stuff
with milk, or orange juice, giving things on there own was easier because
there was less volume, though sadly at a certain range of ages it was a
case
of pinning him down.

Thanks, Anne. I think it'll be interesting, anyway. LOL I'm guessing the
syringe is going to be our best bet, but we'll see tomorrow.


--
Joy

Rose 1-99
Iris 2-01
Spencer 3-03
Grant 9-05