Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons

On Apr 20, 6:42 pm, "Trey Harlow" wrote:
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On Apr 20, 2:29 pm, Thumper wrote:
On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:

But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html

We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.
Thumper

Typical lefty - Baldwin at work, what a great role-model..maybe he
would like to send his kids to fight the war in Iraq, sounds like he
would gladly see them facing the enemy. mai

Anyone who brings up politics in this matter obviously already has a
prediposition to hate Baldwin and therefore can be ignored.




He was driven to the limit by his ex-wife, Krazy Kim Basinger, who
once bought an entire town and once lived with rockstar Prince, with
whom she communicated telepathically. (She sat at his feet and when he
looked at her a certain way, she knew how to serve Him or service Him,
maybe by bringing Him macaroni & cheese). That's one sick person.

Too bad AB said these things to a little kid but I think he could be
forgiven in this case.

Besides, how did the news media get ahold of this message? Think KKB
and her lawyers.

On 20 Apr 2007 08:29:36 -0700, moviePig wrote:

Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked
the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers
- it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has
already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his
visitation rights temporarily.

Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and
visitation battle over Ireland for years.
....
All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't
intend to wallow in the audio link.)

I've incidentally heard it on the radio about nine times now.

It may be par for the course for a contested divorce (and what other
kinds are there?), but if it is, it's par for the loser.

J.

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On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:


But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html


We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.



I'm a divorced father of three, and I have a very bitter relationship with
my ex. (She's on her fourth husband.) I've felt great frustration at times
including towards my children during the fifteen years since the day I came
home from work to find my house empty of children and possessions. That
said, there is simply no excuse for the abusive language Baldwin used
towards his daughter.


Wow, in the old days parents used to beat their kids with willow
switches, or at least administer spankings. Nowadays strong language is
enough for condemnation.

Anim8rFSK wrote:

In article ,
"R. Steve Walz" wrote:

You have no idea what went before, or who the phone message was
actually intended for.

Being as he says 'you' and says he doesn't care if she's 12 or 11 years
old, the message is pretty clearly intended for an 11 or 12 year old.
-----------------
Unless that's a posture and he's called Kim Basinger a 12 y/o before.
You just can't know. This is why such an invasion of privacy out of
context is inappropriate.
Steve

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On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:


But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html


We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.



I'm a divorced father of three, and I have a very bitter relationship
with my ex. (She's on her fourth husband.) I've felt great frustration
at times including towards my children during the fifteen years since the
day I came home from work to find my house empty of children and
possessions. That said, there is simply no excuse for the abusive
language Baldwin used towards his daughter.


Wow, in the old days parents used to beat their kids with willow switches,
or at least administer spankings. Nowadays strong language is enough for
condemnation.



Are you really defending Baldwin? Again, I UNDERSTAND the frustration, but
to take it out on a 12 YO with such abusive language? I don't know anyone
who has ever called their own daughter a pig. It's wrong and it's
indefensible, no matter what she did or didn't do. Adults should know
better.

That said, I just got the boxed set of "Not Just the Best of the Larry
Sanders Show", the best written and funniest show in television history. It
includes a recent interview with Baldwin. Highly recommended. (The Baldwin
interview aside.)

Tom Zielinski wrote:

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On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:


But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html


We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.



I'm a divorced father of three, and I have a very bitter relationship
with my ex. (She's on her fourth husband.) I've felt great frustration
at times including towards my children during the fifteen years since the
day I came home from work to find my house empty of children and
possessions. That said, there is simply no excuse for the abusive
language Baldwin used towards his daughter.


Wow, in the old days parents used to beat their kids with willow switches,
or at least administer spankings. Nowadays strong language is enough for
condemnation.

Are you really defending Baldwin? Again, I UNDERSTAND the frustration, but
to take it out on a 12 YO with such abusive language? I don't know anyone
who has ever called their own daughter a pig. It's wrong and it's
indefensible, no matter what she did or didn't do. Adults should know
better.

That said, I just got the boxed set of "Not Just the Best of the Larry
Sanders Show", the best written and funniest show in television history. It
includes a recent interview with Baldwin. Highly recommended. (The Baldwin
interview aside.)
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It's just not that big of a deal or that unusual among parents,
and trying to crucify him for it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Anyone with kids has said things like that.
Steve

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On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:


But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html


We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.



I'm a divorced father of three, and I have a very bitter relationship
with my ex. (She's on her fourth husband.) I've felt great frustration
at times including towards my children during the fifteen years since
the day I came home from work to find my house empty of children and
possessions. That said, there is simply no excuse for the abusive
language Baldwin used towards his daughter.


Wow, in the old days parents used to beat their kids with willow
switches, or at least administer spankings. Nowadays strong language is
enough for condemnation.

Are you really defending Baldwin? Again, I UNDERSTAND the frustration,
but to take it out on a 12 YO with such abusive language? I don't know
anyone who has ever called their own daughter a pig. It's wrong and it's
indefensible, no matter what she did or didn't do. Adults should know
better.

Absolutely true and it's completely unfair that the punishment for such poor
judgement may be never seeing your kid again. Without this potential
consequence, I don't think he'd be getting much support. And FWIW, I don't
give a rat's ass about Alec Baldwin but there are a ****load of dad's who
aren't him and can't afford fancy-pants lawyers and trips to the coast..

In article ,
"R. Steve Walz" wrote:

Anim8rFSK wrote:

In article ,
"R. Steve Walz" wrote:

You have no idea what went before, or who the phone message was
actually intended for.

Being as he says 'you' and says he doesn't care if she's 12 or 11 years
old, the message is pretty clearly intended for an 11 or 12 year old.
-----------------
Unless that's a posture and he's called Kim Basinger a 12 y/o before.

You've got to be kidding.


You just can't know. This is why such an invasion of privacy out of
context is inappropriate.
Steve

Tom Zielinski wrote:

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On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:



But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be
very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just
disciplinary, father.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html

We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with
him.



I'm a divorced father of three, and I have a very bitter relationship
with my ex. (She's on her fourth husband.) I've felt great frustration
at times including towards my children during the fifteen years since the
day I came home from work to find my house empty of children and
possessions. That said, there is simply no excuse for the abusive
language Baldwin used towards his daughter.


Wow, in the old days parents used to beat their kids with willow switches,
or at least administer spankings. Nowadays strong language is enough for
condemnation.




Are you really defending Baldwin?


Here's my take: I don't defend what he said, I would never say something
like that to a kid in almost any circumstance. There are kids that are
complete beatoffs that deserve some amount of tongue lashing, but we
have no idea if this is the case here, nor do we *deserve* to know.
What we need to start doing is ascribing blame in order of importance:
the fact that Basinger would allow her kid to be humiliated publically
by "leaking" this tape is FAR worse than what Baldwin said, and the
disgusting, filthy pandering media publicizing it is far worse to. We
didn't need to hear this just like we didn't need to know what was in
the package that Cho sent NBC.


Again, I UNDERSTAND the frustration, but
to take it out on a 12 YO with such abusive language? I don't know anyone
who has ever called their own daughter a pig. It's wrong and it's
indefensible, no matter what she did or didn't do. Adults should know
better.

That said, I just got the boxed set of "Not Just the Best of the Larry
Sanders Show", the best written and funniest show in television history. It
includes a recent interview with Baldwin. Highly recommended. (The Baldwin
interview aside.)


Don't worry, that's on my radar. I loved "The Larry Sanders Show" when
it was on, and there aren't a lot of shows I can say that about.

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:48:59 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:


It's just not that big of a deal or that unusual among parents,
and trying to crucify him for it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Anyone with kids has said things like that.
Steve

This from the guy who has stated on many occasions that sexual
relations between consenting kids and adults do not harm the kids.



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