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Old October 1st 04, 08:14 PM
denanson
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"Cele" wrote in message

"denanson" wrote:

"Istara" wrote in message


He's on his third set of tubes - he has what are called "T-tubes"


Why am I not surprised.


Holy crap, Dennis. Do you have any clue at all what you're talking
about, or what she's talking about?


Yes. You have obviously forgotton that Freddie went for an operation to
remove his adenoids and to fit grommits a couple of years ago. Check the
"**** **** ****" thread on the archieve.

Maybe Dennis is right and I'm overreacting but, then again, maybe he's
not. I'll feel better having my son screened and knowing for sure,


But you still don't know for sure.


That's why she's having him tested, Dennis. The whole point of testing
is to get answers to questions.


How many times and by how many people?

it
won't hurt him a bit,


Yes it will


Do you know anything about CAPD testing, then, Dennis? Which test(s)
do you think they'll use? The SCAN? TAPS? What would you consider
hurtful, exactly.

Holy cow.


You completely missed my point. You were too literal. The "hurt" comes from
the accumulative effect of subjecting this nine yo. to a continious battery
of tests from a continually expanding group of people. So far it is
teachers, parents, social workers, phsycologists, EN&T specialists, GP, plus
god knows how many others.
This child is being hurt.



So what do you think it may be doing to a nine year old to be hauled in
front of one so called "expert" after another all of whom, by your own
admission, have come up with differing diagnosis?


Nowhere near as much damage as ignoring his needs would be doing.


That was not my point.

Dennis


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Old October 2nd 04, 12:34 AM
Cele
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:14:29 +0100, "denanson" Dennis@Large .ie
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"Cele" wrote in message

"denanson" wrote:

"Istara" wrote in message


He's on his third set of tubes - he has what are called "T-tubes"

Why am I not surprised.


Holy crap, Dennis. Do you have any clue at all what you're talking
about, or what she's talking about?


Yes. You have obviously forgotton that Freddie went for an operation to
remove his adenoids and to fit grommits a couple of years ago. Check the
"**** **** ****" thread on the archieve.


Yep, you're right.

Maybe Dennis is right and I'm overreacting but, then again, maybe he's
not. I'll feel better having my son screened and knowing for sure,

But you still don't know for sure.


That's why she's having him tested, Dennis. The whole point of testing
is to get answers to questions.


How many times and by how many people?


It didn't sound to me as if she'd had multiple CAPD tests. It sounded
like she hadn't ever had him tested for CAPD, which can be a very
significant condition.

it
won't hurt him a bit,

Yes it will


Do you know anything about CAPD testing, then, Dennis? Which test(s)
do you think they'll use? The SCAN? TAPS? What would you consider
hurtful, exactly.

Holy cow.


You completely missed my point. You were too literal. The "hurt" comes from
the accumulative effect of subjecting this nine yo. to a continious battery
of tests from a continually expanding group of people. So far it is
teachers, parents, social workers, phsycologists, EN&T specialists, GP, plus
god knows how many others.


No, Dennis, I got your point. Teachers test all kids, lots. Parents
don't and I don't see anything suggesting she has. If a kid has ear
issues in this country, and some others, you take him to a GP who then
refers to an ENT. The ENT tests. The GP rarely does. That's normal
procedure. If a kid has behaviour and social/emotional issues, social
workers sometimes are involved but rarely test. Psychologists are
appropriate to help find out what's up. We're talking one medical test
for an organic problem, one psychoeducational professional for an
educational problem, and the standard teaching procedure that is used
when kids seem to need it.

This child is being hurt.


You don't know that.

So what's the magic number of tests? One? Three? Five? Twelve? If a
kid happens to have multiple issues and maxes out your number early,
does that mean no subsequently developed needs should be met? Suppose
after that he breaks a leg. Better not Xray, 'cause that's too many
tests. OK, so that's extreme. Suppose he gradually develops excessive
thirst and urination and sleeps a lot? Don't test, 'cause he's had too
many tests already, so his diabetes can go untreated.

C'mon, Dennis. What makes you think you know better than this mother
and the professionals involved what her son's needs are?

So what do you think it may be doing to a nine year old to be hauled in
front of one so called "expert" after another all of whom, by your own
admission, have come up with differing diagnosis?


Nowhere near as much damage as ignoring his needs would be doing.


That was not my point.


It was mine.

Cele
 




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