when enough is just enough.............

MichaelLikeGod@Heaven wrote:
On 4 Mar 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "Bev" wrote:






Look dood she's not my friend , she is my child, I used my mothers
intuition, therefore I drove no men crazy in the process. I haven't
given up , I have given in to the truth.
Let us pray
May the Goddess in all her earthly glory help you to find the
door....ah-chew
What a shame...another child grew up to be like their own parent.

What an ugly mask that child has.

What an ugly attitude you have about your own child.

That's what this world needs to do is give up on the children. That is
the answer.

Sorry that sin spreads sin, it's in the Bible

t Michael t

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I checked you out Pretty boy and you fool no one. It is sicko's like
you that the children need to be protected from, go back to the rock
you crawled out from under.
Let us pray
May the Goddess in all her earthly glory suck this slime back into the
earth....ah-chew
Yeah, I agree lock the children up in your house and train them up
your way. You are the perfect mother to have as a woman to a husband
and a mother to a child.

My rock is the corner-stone of the Church. That is Jesus Christ. The
Church is rising up. The darkness trembles because it's days are
short. Read Revelations.

t Michael t

ahhhh I have better things to do than stoop down to your level of
ignorance.
Repeat after me
Troll feeding is evil
Starve the little troll........................
How does that go.............. KER PLONKITY PLONK PLONK PLONK
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On 4 Mar 2006 13:37:03 -0800, "Bev" wrote:


MichaelLikeGod@Heaven wrote:
On 4 Mar 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "Bev" wrote:






Look dood she's not my friend , she is my child, I used my mothers
intuition, therefore I drove no men crazy in the process. I haven't
given up , I have given in to the truth.
Let us pray
May the Goddess in all her earthly glory help you to find the
door....ah-chew
What a shame...another child grew up to be like their own parent.

What an ugly mask that child has.

What an ugly attitude you have about your own child.

That's what this world needs to do is give up on the children. That is
the answer.

Sorry that sin spreads sin, it's in the Bible

t Michael t

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
I checked you out Pretty boy and you fool no one. It is sicko's like
you that the children need to be protected from, go back to the rock
you crawled out from under.
Let us pray
May the Goddess in all her earthly glory suck this slime back into the
earth....ah-chew
Yeah, I agree lock the children up in your house and train them up
your way. You are the perfect mother to have as a woman to a husband
and a mother to a child.

My rock is the corner-stone of the Church. That is Jesus Christ. The
Church is rising up. The darkness trembles because it's days are
short. Read Revelations.

t Michael t

ahhhh I have better things to do than stoop down to your level of
ignorance.
Repeat after me
Troll feeding is evil
Starve the little troll........................
How does that go.............. KER PLONKITY PLONK PLONK PLONK
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
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Yeah, all our children should turn out like perfect children like your
daughter. The parent wants to abandon the child because the child grew
up to be just like her mommy.

Take a suggestion, you have a filter on your software. Use it on me, I
don't care. Doesn't bother me. But the beast just wants so urgently to
take shots at me like you. I'll wait patiently to spread love, truth,
and revelation over the darkness.

I learn from beasts like you. I witnessed in one of your emails that
you had a friend that died. She was another woman. Than you said you
had a sleazy relationship with her. Is this true? Are you admitting to
your sin and want to confess, repent, turn from your lesbian ways and
find the light?

Call 1-888-NEED-HIM

I am a homosexual concerned about you, a lesbian.

t Michael t

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'Kate wrote:
On 3 Mar 2006 14:40:20 -0800, "Bev" the
following was posted in blue dry erase marker:


I know what you are saying ......and I know I am influenced by many
different situations over the past five years that I myself have had to
learn to grow with. In the beginning of all this, grief was a main
factor for me. I have had to grow a lot in my life and learn how to be
a single parent when G died. Add mental health issues for my daughter,
again something I hadn't dealt with before as a parent let alone by
myself. Yes I can look back and see the mistakes I have made while I
was learning how to live a life I didn't know very well. I did my best
with something that I could not control, this in itself was a big step
for me. I let my heart lead me in areas that maybe I shouldn't have ,
but ya know even now , that I have come to realise that Mommy cant fix
this boo boo , and mommy has to let go and let the chips fall wherever
they may for her, I didn't have a "how to" booklet to show me how to
accept my daughter is different and she always will be. I have learned
to accept this in my own time, I have accepted what she herself still
has not accepted, now if I have enabled her or not I don't know, maybe
I have . She is 18 and a half now and I am pretty sure I had to see her
to this age to finally be able to accept that I am done raising her, I
did the best I could and what I felt I needed to to support her through
her grief, her illnesses, and her choices and the consequences she
faces now for those choices. If that is enabling then yea, I'm ready to
stop that. I still do not regret my choice to try and make a difference
in her life.

You were given what you adapted to. It's also that her father should
have been in her life and, for whatever reason, chose not to be. You
can't make up for that. You can't be him.

No I can't be him, I wish he wasn't so unavailable to the girls. I
tried, he chose to think of himself and not them. The narcismsp? just
may be inherited.
Bev

"MichaelLikeGod@Heaven" wrote in message
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On 3 Mar 2006 23:43:00 -0800, "Bev" wrote:




TROLL

"MichaelLikeGod@Heaven" wrote in message
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On 4 Mar 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "Bev"

TROLL

"MichaelLikeGod@Heaven" wrote in message
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On 4 Mar 2006 13:37:03 -0800, "Bev" wrote:




TROLL

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I really do not know what I can possibly do for her anymore. I remember
the sweet little girl growing up happy and full of life. Never did I
ever think this would have turned out the way that it has. I have stood
by her through everything she ever went through, even when I knew
sometimes I was making mistakes along the way to support her. Maybe it
is my fault she treats me the way she does, but as of late , I know I
made it clear that I could no longer allow her to live under my roof
and throw her life away. For all of five years now I have sacrificed my
career, my health, my life, to see her get well and capable of facing
her own responsibilities , accepting the consequences of her own
choices. For a moment I thought we made it. She was doing so well,
taking her medication , choosing to go back to school, becoming more of
what she needed to be for herself and her daughter. Then another B/F
came into the picture. I met him , can't say he is not decent enough,
he works ,shares expenses and lives with other "kids" his age 18- 20.
Has his own car, seems to be responsible enough to like. Apparently, my
daughter thinks she needs to throw away her life her responsibilities ,
her child and the family that has been there for her all this time. She
stopped going to school , leaves in the middle of the night , for days,
comes back , appears to be involved in drinking and at least smoking
pot again. Stopped taking her meds, stopped being a mother to her
child, who is here only half the time . I dont get it, with all the
free time this custody change has given her why has she decided to
throw away what she does have?
I can't allow this , I can't change this, I have no power over her
choices . I do not want her coming and going as she pleases using my
home as a flop house in between whatever the hell she is doing now. I
am so tired, I feel ineffective with her . She does not care about
anything but herself. I have told her over and over if she does not get
her act together that I no longer want her coming here, this is the
hardest decision i have had to make , but I have to stop this.It may be
different if I didn't know what she is capable of, I have seen her
manage , but it always turns out the same , she gives up , she quits as
soon as a guy enters her life. It is not the guys fault, she makes her
own choices. She keeps claiming it is because of losing the father to
her child........they have been apart now 2 years in July, she has not
moved forward at all. I just can't find any more excuses for her, she
just can not continue to treat herslf, her child, and her mother this
way. I have done all that I can , and yet
I can't save her. What am I supposed to do ? Can I close the door ?
Last psych eval. says border line personality disorder, I just don't
know what to do anymore..............she is 18 , is as cocky as an 18
year old gets ! Is totally ****ed off that I will not allow her to
drive my car. I can not trust her to allow that. I am tired of feeling
I am stuck to this for the rest of my life, I am ashamed of how I feel
wanting her to just go away. I am her mother and I am disgusted with
her. I also feel guilty for that. I feel like a failure to give up , I
feel like I cant give up because she is "not right" I could babble all
night not saying much more than I just don't know what to do anymore. I
dont.


I'm sorry but there's a difference between enabling someone and helping
them.

I know what you are saying ......and I know I am influenced by many
different situations over the past five years that I myself have had to
learn to grow with. In the beginning of all this, grief was a main
factor for me. I have had to grow a lot in my life and learn how to be
a single parent when G died. Add mental health issues for my daughter,
again something I hadn't dealt with before as a parent let alone by
myself. Yes I can look back and see the mistakes I have made while I
was learning how to live a life I didn't know very well. I did my best
with something that I could not control, this in itself was a big step
for me. I let my heart lead me in areas that maybe I shouldn't have ,
but ya know even now , that I have come to realise that Mommy cant fix
this boo boo , and mommy has to let go and let the chips fall wherever
they may for her, I didn't have a "how to" booklet to show me how to
accept my daughter is different and she always will be. I have learned
to accept this in my own time, I have accepted what she herself still
has not accepted, now if I have enabled her or not I don't know, maybe
I have . She is 18 and a half now and I am pretty sure I had to see her
to this age to finally be able to accept that I am done raising her, I
did the best I could and what I felt I needed to to support her through
her grief, her illnesses, and her choices and the consequences she
faces now for those choices. If that is enabling then yea, I'm ready to
stop that. I still do not regret my choice to try and make a difference
in her life.


She's an adult and needs to grow up. Trust me, I of all people know
what I'm talking about. I wouldn't be the person I am today, if my
mother
held my hand like you do to your daughter.

Yes she is an adult , she lacks that mentality though. The way our
mothers treated us surely plays a part in the "who we are today" game.
I may have been different myself if mine had held my hand just a
little. Maybe it all is just a viscious cycle of mothers that either
hold their childrens hands too much or too little that creates all this
sadness in the world. Let's blame the mothers............NOT! I resent
that you blame me. Oh well.


I know you love her, but
sometimes it takes more love to kick someone in the ass and slam the
door.

Christine

It takes even more love than that to raise a child with mental health
issues. It takes a whole lotta love to learn to let go of your hopes
and dreams for your child, and to accept they cant be like the other
kids. Sometimes I can't sleep at night, worried that she is o.k.
wherever she is...................I'm still crying but thanks for
trying.
Bev



I really don't know what else to offer to you Bev. This is ongoing for so
long now. I will tell you this little story though.

My brother.... drug addict..... now almost 40 years old.

My parents... let's refer to them as the 'enabler's.

20 years off and on they have 'helped' him. (No words of wisdom from anyone,
especially from me have helped)

He has hurt them countless times..... In my head he is about half way to
death, that is how bad he has become.

Mom.... sick as hell for past 2 days over worry for brother. Mom sick as
hell off and on for past couple years, worrying to DEATH literally.

I don't know how one does it BUT sometimes a parent MUST disassociate
themselves from their children at times. They need to let go.

Your situation isn't so extreme but sure can become an ongoing thing.
Christine is right, maybe kick her out. You think she isn't mature enough to
handle life but maybe because she hasn't HAD to be mature.

T

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"MichaelLikeGod@Heaven" wrote in message
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On 4 Mar 2006 13:37:03 -0800, "Bev" wrote:




TROLL


More than that......a nutcase troll