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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless
Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it’s obvious that Ireland’s mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site — either Basinger or her divorce lawyers — it may not matter. Baldwin’s screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It’s a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin’s scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he’s leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he’s left the message. The worst thing he calls her: “a rude, thoughtless pig.” Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child — and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one’s own kid how angry you are because they — the child — has “humiliated” you by missing a phone call. More from the call: “Once again I’ve made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call … I’m tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time …You’ve made feel like sh-- and you’ve made feel like a fool over and over again … I’m going to straighten your a-- out … You are a rude, thoughtless little pig.” It’s a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who’s had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in “The Departed” and his awards for the comedy “30 Rock.” But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 10:47 am, (Way Back Jack) wrote:
411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers - it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It's a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin's scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he's leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he's left the message. The worst thing he calls her: "a rude, thoughtless pig." Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child - and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one's own kid how angry you are because they - the child - has "humiliated" you by missing a phone call. More from the call: "Once again I've made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call ... I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time ...You've made feel like sh-- and you've made feel like a fool over and over again ... I'm going to straighten your a-- out ... You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." It's a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who's had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in "The Departed" and his awards for the comedy "30 Rock." But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't intend to wallow in the audio link.) But here are a few alternative inferences, open to any but scalphunters: 1) Baldwin may actually give a **** about his kid. (Not all parents do.) Admittedly, he seems less than impressively mature about it, but I doubt maturity in general is in long supply in Hollywood... 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) 3) The kid doesn't live in terror of Baldwin. (E.g., she's apparently not too rigorous about his phone calls.) Still, I suppose it's nice that FOX gets to grab at a Gotcha on such a loud leftie... -- - - - - - - - - YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 11:29 am, moviePig wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:47 am, (Way Back Jack) wrote: 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers - it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It's a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin's scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he's leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he's left the message. The worst thing he calls her: "a rude, thoughtless pig." Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child - and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one's own kid how angry you are because they - the child - has "humiliated" you by missing a phone call. More from the call: "Once again I've made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call ... I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time ...You've made feel like sh-- and you've made feel like a fool over and over again ... I'm going to straighten your a-- out ... You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." It's a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who's had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in "The Departed" and his awards for the comedy "30 Rock." But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't intend to wallow in the audio link.) But here are a few alternative inferences, open to any but scalphunters: 1) Baldwin may actually give a **** about his kid. (Not all parents do.) Admittedly, he seems less than impressively mature about it, but I doubt maturity in general is in long supply in Hollywood... 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) 3) The kid doesn't live in terror of Baldwin. (E.g., she's apparently not too rigorous about his phone calls.) Still, I suppose it's nice that FOX gets to grab at a Gotcha on such a loud leftie... A month or so ago, FOX (and others) were all over the fact that he was paying for an Iraq soldier's college education, even though (as he stated) he doesn't agree with the war. As for the audio, which I heard on the radio this morning, it's pretty vicious tonguelashing. He goes on about how she doesn't have her phone on a few times - hey, as a 30-year old my phone isn't on all the time either. And the "pig" part comes at the very end. If you took out the parts where he mentions "daughter" and her age, you'd swear he was verbally lashing out at a grown up. Considering the ferociousness of his message, I can understand perfectly why she wouldn't want to talk to him. Oh, and he also doesn't seem to know how old his own daughter is. He literally says "11 or 12" during the rant. -- Sean |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 12:08 pm, Sean Walsh wrote:
On Apr 20, 11:29 am, moviePig wrote: On Apr 20, 10:47 am, (Way Back Jack) wrote: 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers - it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It's a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin's scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he's leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he's left the message. The worst thing he calls her: "a rude, thoughtless pig." Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child - and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one's own kid how angry you are because they - the child - has "humiliated" you by missing a phone call. More from the call: "Once again I've made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call ... I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time ...You've made feel like sh-- and you've made feel like a fool over and over again ... I'm going to straighten your a-- out ... You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." It's a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who's had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in "The Departed" and his awards for the comedy "30 Rock." But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't intend to wallow in the audio link.) But here are a few alternative inferences, open to any but scalphunters: 1) Baldwin may actually give a **** about his kid. (Not all parents do.) Admittedly, he seems less than impressively mature about it, but I doubt maturity in general is in long supply in Hollywood... 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) 3) The kid doesn't live in terror of Baldwin. (E.g., she's apparently not too rigorous about his phone calls.) Still, I suppose it's nice that FOX gets to grab at a Gotcha on such a loud leftie... A month or so ago, FOX (and others) were all over the fact that he was paying for an Iraq soldier's college education, even though (as he stated) he doesn't agree with the war. As for the audio, which I heard on the radio this morning, it's pretty vicious tonguelashing. He goes on about how she doesn't have her phone on a few times - hey, as a 30-year old my phone isn't on all the time either. And the "pig" part comes at the very end. If you took out the parts where he mentions "daughter" and her age, you'd swear he was verbally lashing out at a grown up. Considering the ferociousness of his message, I can understand perfectly why she wouldn't want to talk to him. Oh, and he also doesn't seem to know how old his own daughter is. He literally says "11 or 12" during the rant. Well... no, I wouldn't nominate him for Parent of the Year. But neither would I phone Social Services to take his kid away... which is the effect being sought here, it seems... (As it happens, I just heard a broadcast also... and was reminded that he can sound like a vicious sonofabitch better than almost anyone alive.) When you say FOX was "all over" the Iraq-soldier scholarship, do you mean they claimed it somehow showed Baldwin's hypocrisy? Or do you mean they were being fair and balanced (TM) toward him? -- - - - - - - - - YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 12:34 pm, moviePig wrote:
On Apr 20, 12:08 pm, Sean Walsh wrote: On Apr 20, 11:29 am, moviePig wrote: On Apr 20, 10:47 am, (Way Back Jack) wrote: 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers - it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It's a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin's scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he's leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he's left the message. The worst thing he calls her: "a rude, thoughtless pig." Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child - and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one's own kid how angry you are because they - the child - has "humiliated" you by missing a phone call. More from the call: "Once again I've made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call ... I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time ...You've made feel like sh-- and you've made feel like a fool over and over again ... I'm going to straighten your a-- out ... You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." It's a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who's had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in "The Departed" and his awards for the comedy "30 Rock." But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't intend to wallow in the audio link.) But here are a few alternative inferences, open to any but scalphunters: 1) Baldwin may actually give a **** about his kid. (Not all parents do.) Admittedly, he seems less than impressively mature about it, but I doubt maturity in general is in long supply in Hollywood... 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) 3) The kid doesn't live in terror of Baldwin. (E.g., she's apparently not too rigorous about his phone calls.) Still, I suppose it's nice that FOX gets to grab at a Gotcha on such a loud leftie... A month or so ago, FOX (and others) were all over the fact that he was paying for an Iraq soldier's college education, even though (as he stated) he doesn't agree with the war. As for the audio, which I heard on the radio this morning, it's pretty vicious tonguelashing. He goes on about how she doesn't have her phone on a few times - hey, as a 30-year old my phone isn't on all the time either. And the "pig" part comes at the very end. If you took out the parts where he mentions "daughter" and her age, you'd swear he was verbally lashing out at a grown up. Considering the ferociousness of his message, I can understand perfectly why she wouldn't want to talk to him. Oh, and he also doesn't seem to know how old his own daughter is. He literally says "11 or 12" during the rant. Well... no, I wouldn't nominate him for Parent of the Year. But neither would I phone Social Services to take his kid away... which is the effect being sought here, it seems... He doesn't have custody, just visitation rights. And those have been temporarily taken away because of this. (As it happens, I just heard a broadcast also... and was reminded that he can sound like a vicious sonofabitch better than almost anyone alive.) Fine if we're just listening to it on the radio and have no personal connection to him or his family. But if your dad just called you up and lashed out at you like that over.....what, not answering phone calls? Not wanting to talk to a dad you probably want little to do with? And then say "I'm gonna straighten your ass out, you ride little pig" when she's got a court-appointed visit to him? As we've all seen this week, you need to deal with people who flip out over pretty much nothing before they "straighten your ass out." When you say FOX was "all over" the Iraq-soldier scholarship, do you mean they claimed it somehow showed Baldwin's hypocrisy? Or do you mean they were being fair and balanced (TM) toward him? They covered it on a few of their shows, IIRC. Meaning they didn't ignore it to prop up the image of him as a lefty looney... -- Sean |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 1:11 pm, Sean Walsh wrote:
On Apr 20, 12:34 pm, moviePig wrote: On Apr 20, 12:08 pm, Sean Walsh wrote: On Apr 20, 11:29 am, moviePig wrote: On Apr 20, 10:47 am, (Way Back Jack) wrote: 411: Caught on Tape: Alec Baldwin Calls Daughter a 'Rude, Thoughtless Pig' Friday, April 20, 2007 By Roger Friedman Actor Alec Baldwin may be finding himself in very big trouble this morning. I mean, big trouble. Baldwin is caught on TMZ.com on an audiotape recording of a scalding message he left for his 12-year-old daughter Ireland. Click here to hear the message Even though it's obvious that Ireland's mother, Kim Basinger, leaked the tape to the TMZ Web site - either Basinger or her divorce lawyers - it may not matter. Baldwin's screamfest at his only child has already caused a family court judge in Los Angeles to suspend his visitation rights temporarily. Baldwin and Basinger have been locked in a vicious custody and visitation battle over Ireland for years. Baldwin has regularly accused Basinger of playing games with scheduling. It's a sore point, since he lives in New York and she lives in California. But Baldwin's scathing comments to his daughter on the phone message may be indefensible. Listening to the tape, you actually think he's leaving a message for Basinger; there is hatred in his voice. Then you realize it really is Ireland for whom he's left the message. The worst thing he calls her: "a rude, thoughtless pig." Baldwin is going to have to do some fast spinning to get out of this situation, especially if the tape starts getting airplay. There will likely be little tolerance for this kind of behavior, especially toward a child - and his own child, at that. It certainly is hard imagining telling one's own kid how angry you are because they - the child - has "humiliated" you by missing a phone call. More from the call: "Once again I've made an a-- of myself getting to a phone to make a phone call ... I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time ...You've made feel like sh-- and you've made feel like a fool over and over again ... I'm going to straighten your a-- out ... You are a rude, thoughtless little pig." It's a sickening turn of events for Baldwin, who's had a great year career-wise between his supporting work in "The Departed" and his awards for the comedy "30 Rock." But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html All I know of this is what I've read here. (Specifically, I don't intend to wallow in the audio link.) But here are a few alternative inferences, open to any but scalphunters: 1) Baldwin may actually give a **** about his kid. (Not all parents do.) Admittedly, he seems less than impressively mature about it, but I doubt maturity in general is in long supply in Hollywood... 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) 3) The kid doesn't live in terror of Baldwin. (E.g., she's apparently not too rigorous about his phone calls.) Still, I suppose it's nice that FOX gets to grab at a Gotcha on such a loud leftie... A month or so ago, FOX (and others) were all over the fact that he was paying for an Iraq soldier's college education, even though (as he stated) he doesn't agree with the war. As for the audio, which I heard on the radio this morning, it's pretty vicious tonguelashing. He goes on about how she doesn't have her phone on a few times - hey, as a 30-year old my phone isn't on all the time either. And the "pig" part comes at the very end. If you took out the parts where he mentions "daughter" and her age, you'd swear he was verbally lashing out at a grown up. Considering the ferociousness of his message, I can understand perfectly why she wouldn't want to talk to him. Oh, and he also doesn't seem to know how old his own daughter is. He literally says "11 or 12" during the rant. Well... no, I wouldn't nominate him for Parent of the Year. But neither would I phone Social Services to take his kid away... which is the effect being sought here, it seems... He doesn't have custody, just visitation rights. And those have been temporarily taken away because of this. (As it happens, I just heard a broadcast also... and was reminded that he can sound like a vicious sonofabitch better than almost anyone alive.) Fine if we're just listening to it on the radio and have no personal connection to him or his family. But if your dad just called you up and lashed out at you like that over.....what, not answering phone calls? Not wanting to talk to a dad you probably want little to do with? And then say "I'm gonna straighten your ass out, you ride little pig" when she's got a court-appointed visit to him? As we've all seen this week, you need to deal with people who flip out over pretty much nothing before they "straighten your ass out." Well, I'm pretty sure the only way to absolutely prevent all sudden interpersonal explosion is to wipe us all out. Meanwhile, no, I wouldn't care to have anyone speak to me like Baldwin... but if I'd been hearing it all my life, it might sound different. E.g., some parents abuse their kids with silence ...and far more verbally threaten their kids with death than actually make good on it. Again, I certainly don't know the facts here --indeed, they may ultimately prove to be unconscionable-- but I doubt that trials by knee-jerk publicity are any wiser today than they've ever been. -- - - - - - - - - YOUR taste at work... http://www.moviepig.com |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote:
But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with him. Thumper |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
On Apr 20, 2:29 pm, Thumper wrote:
On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote: But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with him. Thumper Typical lefty - Baldwin at work, what a great role-model..maybe he would like to send his kids to fight the war in Iraq, sounds like he would gladly see them facing the enemy. mai |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
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moviePig wrote: 2) Nobody with the kid's interest at heart would've publicized the tape. (There would've been other ways to leverage it.) Dead on there. This recording was a very private matter of the Baldwin family. It's an incredible violation of their privacy to publickly air it, without any context. - Juan F. Lara |
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Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons
"Maryann" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 20, 2:29 pm, Thumper wrote: On 20 Apr 2007 09:08:17 -0700, Sean Walsh wrote: But something tells me that with the latter, NBC is not going to be very supportive of what sounds like a very abusive, not just disciplinary, father. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267302,00.html We don't know all the story. His kid may viciously play games with him. Thumper Typical lefty - Baldwin at work, what a great role-model..maybe he would like to send his kids to fight the war in Iraq, sounds like he would gladly see them facing the enemy. mai Well we sure as hell know the Bush twins aren't going to Iraq. |
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