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"Cele" wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:24:09 GMT, "Betsy" wrote: "Cele" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:11:46 GMT, "Betsy" wrote: You don't say what his diagnosis is, or why he's on meds. Certain medications can cause such outbursts, as well as these same outbursts being part of the condition for which he is being treated. For example, I know a child who has ADHD, and at the drop of a hat, he'll start crying, or suddenly scream at his mother, "I HATE YOU!" It's an unfortunate part of the ADHD. Gotta tell you, that's not ADHD. ADHD is about attention and lack thereof. Whatever else emerges, can be fallout from mismanagement of ADHD, can be fallout from the stress of dealing with ADHD, can be because the child isn't really ADHD and has been misdiagnosed, but in and of itself, that's not ADHD. ADHD is about attention and activity level, full stop. The other stuff is kind of extra embellishment, which may or may not happen, depending on a whole host of exciting life circumstances. Sorry to be pedantic, but I had a flash of accuracy and it grabbed me and put me in a lockhold until I made this post...... Cele No Problem Cele. I didn't say her son had ADHD. I said I have seen similar behaviors in children with ADHD. I would never try to diagnose or reccommend a disorder to anyone. Just pointing out that her son's behavior may well be a part of his diagnosis; something to be dealt with in that manner, rather than a slam from him to her parenting style. That was the intent of my post. Betsy Fair enough, Betsy. I agree with that. I truly wasn't looking to be all critical. It's just that in my line of work, these days, practically *everyone* has ADHD, whether they do or not, if you see what I mean. :-) Take care. Cele Right. I have truly seen only a handful of children who I would truly classify as ADHD. I feel that diagnosis is overused in today's society. Some kids have an attention deficit...it's that they don't get enough attention. Others truly have the inability to control impulses. It's too easy to look for a "quick fix" to a problem, and that encourages medicating people when it is unnecessary; tragic when it's a growing child. I can truly see your point of view Cele. Take care yourself. Betsy |
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-- "Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it. You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed." ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message om... "slykitten" wrote in message ... I'm coming out of lurk-mode for a brief while. Mostly because I'm having some issues with my son. Before I proceed, I'll give a very brief history: 1) he's under the care of a psychiatrist for his meds 2) he's on meds (a cocktail really) 3) he's been in the hospital for certain behaviors that are concerning that needed immediate attention and got immediate attention. 4) we have a social worker 5) we have a therapist (in-home psychologist who is helping me with both parenting, coping and behavior modification skills for this kiddo) 6) I've learned safe restraint techniques for when he becomes violent (which thankfully isn't all that often anymore) 7) he's on a behavior mod plan in school 8) he has a great IEP So what am I missing? Why does this kid constantly tell people that he hates living with me? This past weekend I was in the hospital.... very sick. I have diverticulitis which I found out is aparently pretty rare in people under the age of 30.... I'll be 29 on Sunday. My son threw a fit and told some people at his school about how I left him alone with no one around. The reality is that his step-dad who loves him very much took me to the hospital where my friend met me and he took the kids home to care for them, knowing that my friend was with me. He explained to my son on the way to the hospital that mommy is sick and needs to be taken care of by special doctors who can help mommy's tummy get better with special medicine that gets rid of infection. I was gone only 3 days. I just don't get it. Over Labor day weekend, I visited with my parents and when my son threw a fit in the middle of a Wal Mart store, he had to be restrained until he was calmed down... I actually asked the door greeter to call in a manager and security guard to help me.... Are there resources out there that I may be missing? Is this something that's just behavioral or was this something resembling sort of like a seizure? I'm coming out of lurk at the risk of being massively flamed and attacked. What I'm actually doing is asking for help, ideas, resources, links and any other ideas and advice anyone is willing to offer and share. I feel crappy as it is. I really don't need anyone's cruel and judgemental remarks on top of it right now. I'm also not looking for anyone to coddle me and say, "oh you poor thing!" because I don't belive that I'm in any way burdened. I believe I'm being challenged but have reached a bit of an obstacle that I'm not sure how to get past. Thanks. Sorry about the diverticulitis episode you had. I have a friend who had that and was in the hospital, too. It's so painful and awful. For me, it's a hereditary thing. my grampa has it and I have 2 aunts with it. All of them had it diagnosed though after they were at minimum of 43 years old.... grampa was 54.... I'm only 28 and so they're thinking that something happened in my body.... I'm not sure quite how to explain it..... but it just happened and I get to fight it off. It sux, it's painful and it's nasty. I'd rather give birth again. To me, it really sounds like your son was doing so well there for quite a while, and that he had a set-back because you got sick. (Two steps forward, one step back?) I'd agree with that.... Besides the social worker, the meds, the doctor, the safe restraint techs, the school, and everything else that you mentioned, I don't know of any other resources for him. I would like to see something for you, though. The step-dad and your friend seem like a terrific support system for you. I think you need to have some fun when you feel better. Karen Having fun would be a good thing.... keeping a babysitter around long enough is a challenge though.... *sigh* |
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"CME" wrote in message news:3eG2d.39799$KU5.24081@edtnps89... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... ubject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "slykitten" ms Date: 9/16/2004 10:57 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: do you have any clue about anything??? he IS my son's STEP DAD!!!! he's the ONLY DAD my son has EVER known! He became DAD when my son was 15 months old and he accepted US. Yes, he IS STEP DAD. -- No Sly she does not have a clue... I do though , I understand 100%. My daughters had a step mom, from the time the oldest was 5 1/2 and the youngest she was 6 months old, would we have married over 20 years ago probably, but we were denied that right. What do I feel about the paperwork now F%$# it, means nothing what we had was more than any piece of paper could give us. Our vows were etched within our hearts . Stay strong let it roll off it doesn't matter if there are people so shallow that they don't get it. Take care Bev Are you on medication because I think you missed a dose. You see what you want to see, but I'm telling you, your judgement is clouded by your personal vendetta against Joelle. But then again, why am I wasting my breath when I'm supposed to be holding it. Good luck to you in life, I sincerely think you'll need it. Christine Yeah, let it out.... breath please. I agree as I tried to bring some awareness to her concerning Joelle's posts. But, hey, what do we know? T |
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"slykitten" wrote in message ... -- "Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it. You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed." ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery "Karen O'Mara" wrote in message om... "slykitten" wrote in message ... I'm coming out of lurk-mode for a brief while. Mostly because I'm having some issues with my son. Before I proceed, I'll give a very brief history: 1) he's under the care of a psychiatrist for his meds 2) he's on meds (a cocktail really) 3) he's been in the hospital for certain behaviors that are concerning that needed immediate attention and got immediate attention. 4) we have a social worker 5) we have a therapist (in-home psychologist who is helping me with both parenting, coping and behavior modification skills for this kiddo) 6) I've learned safe restraint techniques for when he becomes violent (which thankfully isn't all that often anymore) 7) he's on a behavior mod plan in school 8) he has a great IEP So what am I missing? Why does this kid constantly tell people that he hates living with me? This past weekend I was in the hospital.... very sick. I have diverticulitis which I found out is aparently pretty rare in people under the age of 30.... I'll be 29 on Sunday. My son threw a fit and told some people at his school about how I left him alone with no one around. The reality is that his step-dad who loves him very much took me to the hospital where my friend met me and he took the kids home to care for them, knowing that my friend was with me. He explained to my son on the way to the hospital that mommy is sick and needs to be taken care of by special doctors who can help mommy's tummy get better with special medicine that gets rid of infection. I was gone only 3 days. I just don't get it. Over Labor day weekend, I visited with my parents and when my son threw a fit in the middle of a Wal Mart store, he had to be restrained until he was calmed down... I actually asked the door greeter to call in a manager and security guard to help me.... Are there resources out there that I may be missing? Is this something that's just behavioral or was this something resembling sort of like a seizure? I'm coming out of lurk at the risk of being massively flamed and attacked. What I'm actually doing is asking for help, ideas, resources, links and any other ideas and advice anyone is willing to offer and share. I feel crappy as it is. I really don't need anyone's cruel and judgemental remarks on top of it right now. I'm also not looking for anyone to coddle me and say, "oh you poor thing!" because I don't belive that I'm in any way burdened. I believe I'm being challenged but have reached a bit of an obstacle that I'm not sure how to get past. Thanks. Sorry about the diverticulitis episode you had. I have a friend who had that and was in the hospital, too. It's so painful and awful. For me, it's a hereditary thing. my grampa has it and I have 2 aunts with it. All of them had it diagnosed though after they were at minimum of 43 years old.... grampa was 54.... I'm only 28 and so they're thinking that something happened in my body.... I'm not sure quite how to explain it..... but it just happened and I get to fight it off. It sux, it's painful and it's nasty. I'd rather give birth again. To me, it really sounds like your son was doing so well there for quite a while, and that he had a set-back because you got sick. (Two steps forward, one step back?) I'd agree with that.... Besides the social worker, the meds, the doctor, the safe restraint techs, the school, and everything else that you mentioned, I don't know of any other resources for him. I would like to see something for you, though. The step-dad and your friend seem like a terrific support system for you. I think you need to have some fun when you feel better. Karen Having fun would be a good thing.... keeping a babysitter around long enough is a challenge though.... *sigh* You know, I did want to add that as trying as things might be right now, I noticed at one point that you mentioned that your son is doing better over all, that your sickness just seemed to put a damper on that. That is perfectly normal, it scared the **** out of him probably. So I think the steps you have been taking are helping and may be all you can do at this point. Good luck. T |
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Subject: Need a couple of ideas and resources
From: "Tiffany" Date: 9/17/2004 4:41 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: "CME" wrote in message news:3eG2d.39799$KU5.24081@edtnps89... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... ubject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "slykitten" ms Date: 9/16/2004 10:57 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: do you have any clue about anything??? he IS my son's STEP DAD!!!! he's the ONLY DAD my son has EVER known! He became DAD when my son was 15 months old and he accepted US. Yes, he IS STEP DAD. -- No Sly she does not have a clue... I do though , I understand 100%. My daughters had a step mom, from the time the oldest was 5 1/2 and the youngest she was 6 months old, would we have married over 20 years ago probably, but we were denied that right. What do I feel about the paperwork now F%$# it, means nothing what we had was more than any piece of paper could give us. Our vows were etched within our hearts . Stay strong let it roll off it doesn't matter if there are people so shallow that they don't get it. Take care Bev ------- Are you on medication because I think you missed a dose. Well, lets see.....hmmmm......medication, I have been on and off antidepressant medication for years for clinical depression. Yes I am on medication ATM I Have been since my sig. other passed away , Trauma triggers my depression. I have not missed a dose though ????? Not a very nice thing for you to say . You know for some people medication keeps them alive, or gives them quality of life. You see what you want to see, but I'm telling you, your judgement is clouded by your personal vendetta against Joelle. Well which is it ? I missed a dose or my personal vendetta against Ms. Bitch ? But then again, why am I wasting my breath when I'm supposed to be holding it. because theres some people that just can not help themselves Good luck to you in life, I sincerely think you'll need it. Christine Oh heck Christine, I have been around a long time, maybe some of it has been luck but I promise you I am a survivor and luck has nothing to do with it . Yeah, let it out.... breath please. Breathe Honey I agree as I tried to bring some awareness to her concerning Joelle's posts. But, hey, what do we know? T Joelle irks my craw yes she does, Yes she is da bitch, she knows it. Probably takes pride in that. I have known many and still do, she does not need protection, she holds her own very well, Tiff there are leaders and followers sweety, you better pick up the pace, you are following a little too slowly dear I am aware, Joelle bites. I listened to her tell me her thoughts a while ago , I did use some of her advice..... the attacks and accusations that disrespected me , my daughter, my grandchild, and my Partner are indeed part of why I defended Sly as I will defend anyone she tries to treat with disrespect.You get what you give ain't that right? |
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"Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... Subject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "Tiffany" Date: 9/17/2004 4:41 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: "CME" wrote in message news:3eG2d.39799$KU5.24081@edtnps89... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... ubject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "slykitten" ms Date: 9/16/2004 10:57 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: do you have any clue about anything??? he IS my son's STEP DAD!!!! he's the ONLY DAD my son has EVER known! He became DAD when my son was 15 months old and he accepted US. Yes, he IS STEP DAD. -- No Sly she does not have a clue... I do though , I understand 100%. My daughters had a step mom, from the time the oldest was 5 1/2 and the youngest she was 6 months old, would we have married over 20 years ago probably, but we were denied that right. What do I feel about the paperwork now F%$# it, means nothing what we had was more than any piece of paper could give us. Our vows were etched within our hearts . Stay strong let it roll off it doesn't matter if there are people so shallow that they don't get it. Take care Bev ------- Are you on medication because I think you missed a dose. Well, lets see.....hmmmm......medication, I have been on and off antidepressant medication for years for clinical depression. Yes I am on medication ATM I Have been since my sig. other passed away , Trauma triggers my depression. I have not missed a dose though ????? Not a very nice thing for you to say . You know for some people medication keeps them alive, or gives them quality of life. You see what you want to see, but I'm telling you, your judgement is clouded by your personal vendetta against Joelle. Well which is it ? I missed a dose or my personal vendetta against Ms. Bitch ? But then again, why am I wasting my breath when I'm supposed to be holding it. because theres some people that just can not help themselves Good luck to you in life, I sincerely think you'll need it. Christine Oh heck Christine, I have been around a long time, maybe some of it has been luck but I promise you I am a survivor and luck has nothing to do with it .. Yeah, let it out.... breath please. Breathe Honey I agree as I tried to bring some awareness to her concerning Joelle's posts. But, hey, what do we know? T Joelle irks my craw yes she does, Yes she is da bitch, she knows it. Probably takes pride in that. I have known many and still do, she does not need protection, she holds her own very well, Tiff there are leaders and followers sweety, you better pick up the pace, you are following a little too slowly dear I am aware, Joelle bites. If you are a leader, what are you leading, sweety? You aren't aware of much as I see it, you can't even read. I listened to her tell me her thoughts a while ago , I did use some of her advice..... the attacks and accusations that disrespected me , my daughter, my grandchild, and my Partner are indeed part of why I defended Sly as I will defend anyone she tries to treat with disrespect.You get what you give ain't that right? So you feel the need to defend someone but when I speak up about your manipulation of words concerning other people's post, I am slow? Yes, you do get what you give, ISN'T that right? Yes, I have plenty of good in my life, what is your point? BTW, your reply was to my post but had comments to another's reply. Tiff |
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T "slykitten" wrote in message ... T, Thanks for making this post show through. I set aside my initial reaction and just read on. I just want to say Thanks to Joelle for at least knowing my position and knowing what I'm dealing with and knowing it's not easy. -- |
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"Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... Subject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "Tiffany" Date: 9/17/2004 4:41 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: "CME" wrote in message news:3eG2d.39799$KU5.24081@edtnps89... "Bebelestrnge0721" wrote in message ... ubject: Need a couple of ideas and resources From: "slykitten" ms Date: 9/16/2004 10:57 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: do you have any clue about anything??? he IS my son's STEP DAD!!!! he's the ONLY DAD my son has EVER known! He became DAD when my son was 15 months old and he accepted US. Yes, he IS STEP DAD. -- No Sly she does not have a clue... I do though , I understand 100%. My daughters had a step mom, from the time the oldest was 5 1/2 and the youngest she was 6 months old, would we have married over 20 years ago probably, but we were denied that right. What do I feel about the paperwork now F%$# it, means nothing what we had was more than any piece of paper could give us. Our vows were etched within our hearts . Stay strong let it roll off it doesn't matter if there are people so shallow that they don't get it. Take care Bev ------- Are you on medication because I think you missed a dose. Well, lets see.....hmmmm......medication, I have been on and off antidepressant medication for years for clinical depression. Yes I am on medication ATM I Have been since my sig. other passed away , Trauma triggers my depression. I have not missed a dose though ????? Not a very nice thing for you to say . You know for some people medication keeps them alive, or gives them quality of life. Yep and I've used them myself. You see what you want to see, but I'm telling you, your judgement is clouded by your personal vendetta against Joelle. Well which is it ? I missed a dose or my personal vendetta against Ms. Bitch ? But then again, why am I wasting my breath when I'm supposed to be holding it. because theres some people that just can not help themselves Good luck to you in life, I sincerely think you'll need it. Christine Oh heck Christine, I have been around a long time, maybe some of it has been luck but I promise you I am a survivor and luck has nothing to do with it .. Whoopdy ****in doo. Oh yay you're a survivor, do you think that entitles you to see something that isn't there? We've all been through ****, it's called life and I don't know a single person that hasn't had bad things happen to them so quit flaunting that like it means something. Yeah, let it out.... breath please. Breathe Honey I agree as I tried to bring some awareness to her concerning Joelle's posts. But, hey, what do we know? T Joelle irks my craw yes she does, Yes she is da bitch, she knows it. Probably takes pride in that. I have known many and still do, she does not need protection, she holds her own very well, Tiff there are leaders and followers sweety, you better pick up the pace, you are following a little too slowly dear I am aware, Joelle bites. I listened to her tell me her thoughts a while ago , I did use some of her advice..... the attacks and accusations that disrespected me , my daughter, my grandchild, and my Partner are indeed part of why I defended Sly as I will defend anyone she tries to treat with disrespect.You get what you give ain't that right? Problem is you see nearly every word she posts as an attack and THAT is what you need to re-evaluate. Christine |
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While you're at it Joelle could you say one for me and my children? Having
someone else think about us never hurts. Hell. I'll pray for everyone here tonight. Even the arrogant hypocrites that in the name of charity I shan't name... Joelle The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St Augustine Joelle |
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