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Old October 22nd 05, 10:16 PM
Mark Probert
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Default Public health decisions need to be based on sound evidence.

Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR vaccination data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR
vaccination. This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review
Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully drawing
together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies from
around the world. They also highlight that the policy of encouraging
mass use of MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps and rubella
from many countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events, such as
triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the basis of
unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli who works
at Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.

Comment: IOW, Wakefiled was a lying scaremonger looking to make a buck
or two.

These findings will be published on 19 October, 2005 in The Cochrane
Library.

"Public health decisions need to be based on sound evidence. If this
principle had been applied in the case of the MMR dispute, then we would
have avoided all the fuss," says Demicheli.

COMMENT: The UK would also be avoiding epidemic outbreaks of these diseases.

The success of the large-scale vaccination programmes in developed
countries has tended to induce a sense of complacency, but measles,
mumps and rubella are serious diseases that can cause permanent physical
damage or even kill. Indeed, in developing countries where vaccination
is less prevalent, the mortality rate from these diseases is high.

COMMENT:

This is precisly why we NEED and avian flu pandemic. It would cull the
herd of charlatans and the gullible.
  #2  
Old October 23rd 05, 12:09 AM
LadyLollipop
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?

Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR vaccination
data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR
vaccination.


ZZzz.

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *copious* *direct* *unreliable*





This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review
Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully drawing
together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies from around
the world. They also highlight that the policy of encouraging mass use of
MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps and rubella from many
countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events, such as
triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the basis of
unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli who works at
Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.


snip

http://www.iom.edu/IOM/IOMHome.nsf/P...Autism+Summary

Though the MMR-autism question

***appear to be resolved,***

science is always a work in progress; a conclusion is only as good as the
methods of the analysis. The epidemiological studies, traditional public
health
tools used to examine the risk factors for a disease on a population
level,were
at a disadvantage here because there is little variation in exposure to MMR
since children in most developed countries are vaccinated similarly.

***Furthermore, the difficulties in diagnosing and determining the exact
onset
of autism in children make it difficult to design appropriate studies and
compare the results from those studies.

*** The committee acknowledges they could **not rule out another
possibility***--that MMR vaccine could contribute to ASDin a small number of
children--

***because existing epidemiological tools may not have enough precision
todetect the occurrence of rare effects like ASD.***

"Attention should be given to how the material is perceived and used by
those
with the right and desire to know--***the parents of children about to be
immunized or those who believe theirchild has been adversely affected," the
committee says. "Direct input from parents and other stakeholders would be
invaluable in conducting a systematic and effective evaluation of current
communication tools."***


  #3  
Old October 23rd 05, 04:52 PM
Mark Probert
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert

LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?


Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR vaccination
data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR
vaccination.



ZZzz.


I know, facts put you to sleep.

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *copious* *direct* *unreliable*


Sadly, Jan prefers to use saleshype and anti-vac lies as the basis for
her "thoughts".

This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review

Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully drawing
together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies from around
the world. They also highlight that the policy of encouraging mass use of
MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps and rubella from many
countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events, such as
triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the basis of
unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli who works at
Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.



snip


Again Jan snips what she cannot handle. Facts scare her so she snips them.

Comment: IOW, Wakefiled was a lying scaremonger looking to make a buck
or two.

These findings will be published on 19 October, 2005 in The Cochrane
Library.

"Public health decisions need to be based on sound evidence. If this
principle had been applied in the case of the MMR dispute, then we would
have avoided all the fuss," says Demicheli.

COMMENT: The UK would also be avoiding epidemic outbreaks of these diseases.

The success of the large-scale vaccination programmes in developed
countries has tended to induce a sense of complacency, but measles,
mumps and rubella are serious diseases that can cause permanent physical
damage or even kill. Indeed, in developing countries where vaccination
is less prevalent, the mortality rate from these diseases is high.

COMMENT:

This is precisly why we NEED and avian flu pandemic. It would cull the
herd of charlatans and the gullible.

Yes, the IOM looked at it, and so did the Cochrane Group.

Here is the latest from the IOM. It is at variance with what Jan
selectively edited:

In 2004, the IOM reviewed newly released data on vaccines and autism.
After reviewing the new data, the committee concluded that the body of
epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship
between the MMR vaccine and autism. The committee also concluded that
the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. The
committee further found that potential biological mechanisms for
vaccine-induced autism that have been generated to date are theoretical
only.

http://www.iom.edu/focuson.asp?id=4189


http://www.iom.edu/IOM/IOMHome.nsf/P...Autism+Summary

Though the MMR-autism question

***appear to be resolved,***

science is always a work in progress; a conclusion is only as good as the
methods of the analysis. The epidemiological studies, traditional public
health
tools used to examine the risk factors for a disease on a population
level,were
at a disadvantage here because there is little variation in exposure to MMR
since children in most developed countries are vaccinated similarly.

***Furthermore, the difficulties in diagnosing and determining the exact
onset
of autism in children make it difficult to design appropriate studies and
compare the results from those studies.

*** The committee acknowledges they could **not rule out another
possibility***--that MMR vaccine could contribute to ASDin a small number of
children--

***because existing epidemiological tools may not have enough precision
todetect the occurrence of rare effects like ASD.***

"Attention should be given to how the material is perceived and used by
those
with the right and desire to know--***the parents of children about to be
immunized or those who believe theirchild has been adversely affected," the
committee says. "Direct input from parents and other stakeholders would be
invaluable in conducting a systematic and effective evaluation of current
communication tools."***


  #4  
Old October 23rd 05, 08:27 PM
Jeff
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert


"LadyLollipop" wrote in message
news:uEz6f.507147$xm3.233045@attbi_s21...

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?


You need a dictionary. Here is what Webster's online dictionary says about
it: "transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of
another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the
source. intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and
original an idea or product derived from an existing source"

Mark clearly indicated the source and clearly did not try to claim that it
is his work. This is not an example of plagiarizing.

Jeff


  #5  
Old October 23rd 05, 08:52 PM
LadyLollipop
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert


"Mark Probert" wrote
LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?


Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR vaccination
data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR
vaccination.



ZZzz.


*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *copious* *direct* *unreliable*



This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review

Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully drawing
together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies from around
the world. They also highlight that the policy of encouraging mass use of
MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps and rubella from many
countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events, such as
triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the basis of
unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli who works at
Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.



snip


http://www.iom.edu/IOM/IOMHome.nsf/P...Autism+Summary

Though the MMR-autism question

***appear to be resolved,***

science is always a work in progress; a conclusion is only as good as the
methods of the analysis. The epidemiological studies, traditional public
health
tools used to examine the risk factors for a disease on a population
level,were
at a disadvantage here because there is little variation in exposure to
MMR
since children in most developed countries are vaccinated similarly.

***Furthermore, the difficulties in diagnosing and determining the exact
onset
of autism in children make it difficult to design appropriate studies and
compare the results from those studies.

*** The committee acknowledges they could **not rule out another
possibility***--that MMR vaccine could contribute to ASDin a small number
of
children--

***because existing epidemiological tools may not have enough precision
todetect the occurrence of rare effects like ASD.***

"Attention should be given to how the material is perceived and used by
those
with the right and desire to know--***the parents of children about to be
immunized or those who believe theirchild has been adversely affected,"
the
committee says. "Direct input from parents and other stakeholders would
be
invaluable in conducting a systematic and effective evaluation of current
communication tools."***



  #6  
Old October 23rd 05, 10:00 PM
Mark Probert
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert

LadyLollipop wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?


Nope. A press release.



Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR vaccination
data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR
vaccination.



ZZzz.

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *copious* *direct* *unreliable*





This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review

Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully drawing
together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies from around
the world. They also highlight that the policy of encouraging mass use of
MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps and rubella from many
countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events, such as
triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the basis of
unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli who works at
Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.



snip

http://www.iom.edu/IOM/IOMHome.nsf/P...Autism+Summary

Though the MMR-autism question

***appear to be resolved,***

science is always a work in progress; a conclusion is only as good as the
methods of the analysis. The epidemiological studies, traditional public
health
tools used to examine the risk factors for a disease on a population
level,were
at a disadvantage here because there is little variation in exposure to MMR
since children in most developed countries are vaccinated similarly.

***Furthermore, the difficulties in diagnosing and determining the exact
onset
of autism in children make it difficult to design appropriate studies and
compare the results from those studies.

*** The committee acknowledges they could **not rule out another
possibility***--that MMR vaccine could contribute to ASDin a small number of
children--

***because existing epidemiological tools may not have enough precision
todetect the occurrence of rare effects like ASD.***

"Attention should be given to how the material is perceived and used by
those
with the right and desire to know--***the parents of children about to be
immunized or those who believe theirchild has been adversely affected," the
committee says. "Direct input from parents and other stakeholders would be
invaluable in conducting a systematic and effective evaluation of current
communication tools."***


  #7  
Old October 23rd 05, 10:00 PM
Mark Probert
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Default Public health decisions, NOT determined by Mark Probert

LadyLollipop wrote:

"Mark Probert" wrote in message

...

Plagiarizing again?


Cochrane Library publishes the most thorough survey of MMR

vaccination data
22 Oct 2005

There was no credible evidence behind claims of harm from the MMR

vaccination.



ZZzz.



I know, facts put you to sleep.

*Substantial* *real* *solid* *convincing* *hard* *clear-cut* *reasonable*
*significant* *credibile* *compelling* *copious* *direct* *unreliable*



Sadly, Jan prefers to use saleshype and anti-vac lies as the basis for
her "thoughts".

This is the conclusion drawn by the Cochrane Review

Authors, an international team of researchers, after carefully

drawing together all of the evidence found in 31 high quality studies
from around the world. They also highlight that the policy of
encouraging mass use of MMR has eliminated the scourge of measles, mumps
and rubella from many countries.

"In particular we conclude that all the major unintended events,

such as triggering Crohn's disease or autism, were suspected on the
basis of unreliable evidence," says lead author Dr Vittorio Demicheli
who works at Servizo Sovrazonale di Epidemiologia, Alessandria, Italy.



snip



Again Jan snips what she cannot handle. Facts scare her so she snips them.

Comment: IOW, Wakefiled was a lying scaremonger looking to make a buck
or two.

These findings will be published on 19 October, 2005 in The Cochrane
Library.

"Public health decisions need to be based on sound evidence. If this
principle had been applied in the case of the MMR dispute, then we would
have avoided all the fuss," says Demicheli.

COMMENT: The UK would also be avoiding epidemic outbreaks of these diseases.

The success of the large-scale vaccination programmes in developed
countries has tended to induce a sense of complacency, but measles,
mumps and rubella are serious diseases that can cause permanent physical
damage or even kill. Indeed, in developing countries where vaccination
is less prevalent, the mortality rate from these diseases is high.

COMMENT:

This is precisly why we NEED and avian flu pandemic. It would cull the
herd of charlatans and the gullible.

Yes, the IOM looked at it, and so did the Cochrane Group.

Here is the latest from the IOM. It is at variance with what Jan
selectively edited:

In 2004, the IOM reviewed newly released data on vaccines and autism.
After reviewing the new data, the committee concluded that the body of
epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship
between the MMR vaccine and autism. The committee also concluded that
the body of epidemiological evidence favors rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. The
committee further found that potential biological mechanisms for
vaccine-induced autism that have been generated to date are theoretical
only.

http://www.iom.edu/focuson.asp?id=4189


http://www.iom.edu/IOM/IOMHome.nsf/P...Autism+Summary

Though the MMR-autism question

***appear to be resolved,***

science is always a work in progress; a conclusion is only as good as the
methods of the analysis. The epidemiological studies, traditional

public health
tools used to examine the risk factors for a disease on a population

level,were
at a disadvantage here because there is little variation in exposure

to MMR
since children in most developed countries are vaccinated similarly.

***Furthermore, the difficulties in diagnosing and determining the

exact onset
of autism in children make it difficult to design appropriate studies and
compare the results from those studies.

*** The committee acknowledges they could **not rule out another
possibility***--that MMR vaccine could contribute to ASDin a small

number of
children--

***because existing epidemiological tools may not have enough precision
todetect the occurrence of rare effects like ASD.***

"Attention should be given to how the material is perceived and used

by those
with the right and desire to know--***the parents of children about to be
immunized or those who believe theirchild has been adversely

affected," the
committee says. "Direct input from parents and other stakeholders

would be
invaluable in conducting a systematic and effective evaluation of current
communication tools."***

  #8  
Old October 23rd 05, 10:02 PM
Mark Probert
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Jeff wrote:
"LadyLollipop" wrote in message
news:uEz6f.507147$xm3.233045@attbi_s21...

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

Plagiarizing again?



You need a dictionary. Here is what Webster's online dictionary says about
it: "transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of
another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the
source. intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and
original an idea or product derived from an existing source"

Mark clearly indicated the source and clearly did not try to claim that it
is his work. This is not an example of plagiarizing.


Further, it is a press release. Imagine a copyrighted press release. Now
imagine a pink elephant.

Jan has a new hobby: harassing and stalking me.

She'll get bored with it soon.


 




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