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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
David Wright wrote: In article 4zGPg.551428$Mn5.67678@pd7tw3no, vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? There's no way to know what they'll say, because the family isn't giving any information about treatments Abraham is getting. But if he's getting herbs and radiation, and he does get better, it's a cinch the nitwits will attribute *everything* to the herbs. No, it's a cinch that nitwits like you will attribute anything to his improvement other than his own immune response. The question is what works best to stimulate and support that response. We don't really know whether he's getting better or not. He claimed he was in the past, even as his tumors got larger. I don't wish him any ill will, but I wouldn't wager any significant sum on his still being alive in five years under his current treatment regimen, either. I won't wanger a significant sum that you'll be saying anything worthwhile on mha in 5 years, either. PeterB |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) PeterB |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
PeterB wrote:
David Wright wrote: In article 4zGPg.551428$Mn5.67678@pd7tw3no, vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? There's no way to know what they'll say, because the family isn't giving any information about treatments Abraham is getting. But if he's getting herbs and radiation, and he does get better, it's a cinch the nitwits will attribute *everything* to the herbs. No, it's a cinch that nitwits like you will attribute anything to his improvement other than his own immune response. The question is what works best to stimulate and support that response. I see. The doctor that is treating him is a radiation oncologist. I'll assume that you know what that means. According to his website, cited by Orac, he uses a combination of therapies to treat cancer, including radiation, which is quite mainstream. We don't really know whether he's getting better or not. He claimed he was in the past, even as his tumors got larger. I don't wish him any ill will, but I wouldn't wager any significant sum on his still being alive in five years under his current treatment regimen, either. I won't wanger a significant sum that you'll be saying anything worthwhile on mha in 5 years, either. You can wanger anything you want, just do not do it in front of children. |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. Another avenue for a vaccine.... It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) Sure. |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
"Mark Probert" wrote in message news:jLZPg.5807$_k1.2048@trndny01... PeterB wrote: David Wright wrote: In article 4zGPg.551428$Mn5.67678@pd7tw3no, vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? There's no way to know what they'll say, because the family isn't giving any information about treatments Abraham is getting. But if he's getting herbs and radiation, and he does get better, it's a cinch the nitwits will attribute *everything* to the herbs. No, it's a cinch that nitwits like you will attribute anything to his improvement other than his own immune response. The question is what works best to stimulate and support that response. I see. The doctor that is treating him is a radiation oncologist. I'll assume that you know what that means. According to his website, cited by Orac, he uses a combination of therapies to treat cancer, including radiation, which is quite mainstream. by Orac. What a hoot! Proven FACT Orac lies for/with Mark................. We don't really know whether he's getting better or not. He claimed he was in the past, even as his tumors got larger. I don't wish him any ill will, but I wouldn't wager any significant sum on his still being alive in five years under his current treatment regimen, either. I won't wanger a significant sum that you'll be saying anything worthwhile on mha in 5 years, either. You can wanger anything you want, just do not do it in front of children. |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ups.com... JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. Naaww. I am shocked! If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, Poor Mark. That IS Hoxsey. when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. "Jan Drew" wrote in message ... |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
Mark Probert wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. Another avenue for a vaccine.... Vaccine is inferior to natural immune support, which depends mostly on proper nutrition. It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) Sure. Since stress can cause disease, taking it away can reverse it. Almost all disease is the product of a stressor. PeterB |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. Another avenue for a vaccine.... Vaccine is inferior to natural immune support, which depends mostly on proper nutrition. It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) Sure. Since stress can cause disease, taking it away can reverse it. Lemme try and follow this 'logic': "since smoking can cause lung cancer, quitting smoking can reverse lung cancer". Shouldn't PeterB get an Ignobel award for these things? Almost all disease is the product of a stressor. PeterB |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
JohnDoe wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. Another avenue for a vaccine.... Vaccine is inferior to natural immune support, which depends mostly on proper nutrition. It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) Sure. Since stress can cause disease, taking it away can reverse it. Lemme try and follow this 'logic': "since smoking can cause lung cancer, quitting smoking can reverse lung cancer". Shouldn't PeterB get an Ignobel award for these things? Yesterday, you got spanked (twice) for very poor reading skills, and today you are back for more. Again: "Since stress can cause disease, taking it away *can* reverse it." Obviously, the stage of illness determines how effective removal of the disease trigger will be. Almost all disease is the product of a stressor. PeterB |
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Hallelujah! Abraham Cherrix is improving
PeterB wrote:
JohnDoe wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: PeterB wrote: Mark Probert wrote: JohnDoe wrote: vakker wrote: If Abraham Cherrix becomes completely well what will all the naysayers do and say? How will they try to make it insignificant? I wonder how Moran will try to poo poo poo it away? Spontaneous remission? The chemo kicked in? Wrong diagnosis to begin with? A miracle? Peter, how is this kid getting better? Easy - read this: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...x_its_over.php He's not getting a magic potion this time, but treatment that could actually work, although it's not the recommended optimal treatment. And odd enough, it's a treatment that has serious side effects. I can imagine why the Cherrix family doesn't want to comment on that - first they go to court because Abraham doesn't want treatment with serious side effects and then they go for treatment with serious side effect. Basically, they wasted everybody's time, mostly Abraham's, and I think they know it. Excellent points by Orac. If Abraham survives, as all hope he does, I know that the AltNuts will claim it was due to the HOAXsey treatment, when, actually, Abraham is likely receiving radiation and the immunotherapy that Orac describes. One patient's experience can't prove the efficacy of treatment, but in the end, host immunity is the only way to survive cancer. Another avenue for a vaccine.... Vaccine is inferior to natural immune support, which depends mostly on proper nutrition. It may well be that his latest improvement was triggered by an absence of stress (ie., the physical and mental stress of chemotherapy.) Sure. Since stress can cause disease, taking it away can reverse it. Lemme try and follow this 'logic': "since smoking can cause lung cancer, quitting smoking can reverse lung cancer". Shouldn't PeterB get an Ignobel award for these things? Yesterday, you got spanked (twice) for very poor reading skills, and today you are back for more. Again: "Since stress can cause disease, taking it away *can* reverse it." Obviously, the stage of illness determines how effective removal of the disease trigger will be. I bet you walk around with a sticker on your forehead: "How's my English?". Or else you should, since you clearly don't even know the difference between 'can' and 'might'. Almost all disease is the product of a stressor. PeterB |
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