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Multiple Chemical Sensitivity - The End of Controversy
May God protect these brave scientists from the ravages of the MCS fake skeptics. How typical of Quackwatch Shill Mark Thorson trying to highjack these threads with the anti-skeptical Barrett version of MCS. http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Health Lover Written by Dr. Martin Pall/Matthew Hogg Wednesday, 17 October 2007 http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/...f-controversy/ Multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS), where people report being exquisitely sensitive to a wide range of organic chemicals, is almost always described as being "controversial." The main source of this supposed controversy is that there has been no plausible physiological mechanism for MCS and consequently, it was difficult to interpret the puzzling reported features of this condition. As discussed below, this is no longer true and consequently the main source of such controversy has been laid to rest. There still are important issues such as how it should be diagnosed and treated and these may also be allayed by further studies of the mechanism discussed below. The descriptions of MCS made by a several different research groups are remarkably consistent. MCS sufferers report being hypersensitive to a wide variety of hydrophobic organic solvents, including gasoline vapor, perfume, diesel or jet engine exhaust, new or remodeled buildings where building materials or carpeting has outgassed various solvents, vapors associated with copy machines, many solvents used in industrial settings, cleaning materials and cigarette and other smoke. Each of these is known to have volatile hydrophobic organic compounds as a prominent part of its composition. The symptoms of MCS sufferers report having on such solvent exposure include multiorgan pain typically including headache, muscle pain and joint pain, dizziness, cognitive dysfunction including confusion, lack of memory, and lack of concentration. These symptoms are often accompanied by some of a wide range of more variable symptoms. The major symptoms reported on chemical exposure in MCS are strikingly similar to the chronic symptoms in chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and may be explained by mechanisms previously proposed for the CFS symptoms (1). Perhaps the best source of information on the properties and science of MCS is the Ashford and Miller book (2). Many individual accounts of MCS victims have been presented in an interesting book edited by Johnson (3). Most MCS sufferers trace their sensitivity to chemicals to a chemical exposure at a particular time in their life, often a single, high level exposure to organic solvents or to certain pesticides, notably organophosphates or carbamates. Some MCS cases are traced to a time period where the person lived or worked in a particular new or newly remodeled building ("sick building syndrome") where the outgassing of the organic solvents may have had a role in inducing MCS. One of the most interesting examples of MCS/sick building syndrome occured about 15 years ago when the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency remodeled its headquarters and some 200 of its employees became chemically sensitive. The obvious interpretation of this pattern of incidence of MCS is that pesticide or high level or repeated organic solvent exposure induces cases of MCS. This interpretation has been challenged by MCS skeptics but they have, in my judgement, no plausible alternative explanation. |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
Curr Opin Otolaryngol Head Neck Surg. 2007 Aug;15(4):274-80.
Multiple chemical sensitivities: review. Das-Munshi J, Rubin GJ, Wessely S. Section of Epidemiology, Department of Health Services and Population Research, Institute of Psychiatry, King's College London, London, United Kingdom. PURPOSE OF REVIEW: There have been a number of recent studies examining behavioural and social factors in the potential cause of Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, or Idiopathic Environmental Intolerance. The current review will draw together recent research and suggest directions for future investigation. RECENT FINDINGS: Recent studies have implicated a number of different perspectives which may be helpful in understanding the cause of chemical sensitivities. A multifactorial model incorporating behavioural, physiological and sociological approaches may be useful. Cultural and historical factors, alongside individual expectations and beliefs, as well as maladaptive learning and conditioning processes, may be important in the specific cause of chemical sensitivities. Iatrogenesis, through the promise of unproven 'therapies', may perpetuate reported symptoms further. Although there are many recent experiments implicating potential behavioural or psychological causes for Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, there remains a paucity of treatment trials for this condition. SUMMARY: Good-quality treatment trials examining psychological/behavioural approaches in the management of Multiple Chemical Sensitivities are urgently needed. |
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Multiple Chemical Sensitivity - The End of Controversy
On Oct 31, 2:40 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:
Hey Ilena. I just read recently somewhere that the director of Quackwatch is on the editorial board for Medscape. It is common knowledge from reading Quackwatch that they are against the MCS diagnosis. And from reading in the blurb in an online newspaper out of Texas, Barrett is definitely not a Bill Rea supporter. I know his background is for the psychiatry; do you know how the psychiatry world views MCS? I remember reading an article about the drug, Paxil (?) that was supposed to be the cure-all for MCS. But I remember reading the controversary over the use and side effects of the drug. Why do you suppose there is so much rah rah ism against MCS when there is so much knowlege available presently about the chemicals in our environment? Also, do you think it is fair that doctors are on the editorial boards of medical studies companies that might possibly have a conflict of interest with the information coming from studies that they might not necessarily like? Would this not be fair to insurance companies; the lack of pro studies might not even have opportunity to get into the medical publishing. In light of this, do you think it would be much fairer to our society as a whole, if all of the information was available, pro and con studies? In reviewing a case today about an insurance company who had been feed false information from their client, because it was beneficial to the client (their insured), the only information they had available was what the "experts" had deemed was correct. However, the "experts" were willing to go along with the client, because the client was a prominent member of society, and after speaking with the Insurance Commissioner's office, he had to agree with me, that it was time to return to the insurance company and open up a fraud investigation based on the fact that "the experts" had an apparent conflict of interest that they had not disclosed. Do you think insurance companies should be held liable for medical studies or information that they purchase or use in court cases or claims to deny claims if it can be proven that the investigator or the insurance company themselves have conflict of interests with either the doctor's diagnosis or the medical studies available are limited. I have to admit, the in resident cut and paster who only comes up with Anti-MCS studies for some reason can only see one side of the coin. He has yet to post anything to support the MCS in any fashion unless it is linked the Psychiatry world. I would consider this information one-sided. You begin to wonder if those that are Anti-MCS using alternative therapies have stock in PRO Conventional Medicine, Pharma drugs, that they have failed to disclose, or they have relatives that are Psychiatrists who are making big bucks off of people with MCS or any other questionable diagnosis. I'm interested in your comments, Ilena. |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
On Oct 31, 4:16 pm, Mark Thorson wrote:
SUMMARY: Good-quality treatment trials examining psychological/behavioural approaches in the management of Multiple Chemical Sensitivities are urgently needed. Agreed, especially for those individuals that spent all day exposed to the harmful rays of their computers. |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
On Nov 8, 12:04 am, Debbee wrote:
On Oct 31, 4:16 pm, Mark Thorson wrote: SUMMARY: Good-quality treatment trials examining psychological/behavioural approaches in the management of Multiple Chemical Sensitivities are urgently needed. Agreed, especially for those individuals that spent all day exposed to the harmful rays of their computers. How about for individuals who spend all day lying about Mark Lyndsay exposing himself to them? |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
On Nov 8, 5:39 am, The One True Zhen Jue
wrote: How about for individuals who spend all day lying about Mark Lyndsay exposing himself to them? Look up the court case for yourself, it is all a matter of public record; call the attorneys associated in the case, and read for yourself. The cow died, I, and the rest of the readers here do not need your bull. |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
Debbee wrote:
On Nov 8, 5:39 am, The One True Zhen Jue wrote: How about for individuals who spend all day lying about Mark Lyndsay exposing himself to them? Look up the court case for yourself, it is all a matter of public record; call the attorneys associated in the case, and read for yourself. The cow died, I, and the rest of the readers here Do provide the URL where you are appointed to speak for the rest of the readers. There are inquiring minds who would like the truth. |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
On Nov 9, 4:57 am, Mark Probert wrote:
Do provide the URL where you are appointed to speak for the rest of the readers. There are inquiring minds who would like the truth. As I have told anyone that has emailed me and asked, you can go to PACER, and look it up for yourself. It is a matter of public record. I made no statement.."where you are appointed to speak for the rest of the readers." These are your words. I said, Look up the court case for yourself, it is all a matter of public record; call the attorneys associated in the case, and read for yourself Don't you work for an attorney? Are you not readily familiar with public records? |
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How To Perpetuate Your MCS For A Lifetime
Debbee wrote:
On Nov 9, 4:57 am, Mark Probert wrote: Do provide the URL where you are appointed to speak for the rest of the readers. There are inquiring minds who would like the truth. As I have told anyone that has emailed me and asked, you can go to PACER, and look it up for yourself. It is a matter of public record. Non sequitur. I made no statement.."where you are appointed to speak for the rest of the readers." These are your words. You made the statement, which I responded to, and you snipped: "The cow died, I, and the rest of the readers here..." Clearly, you are implying that you are speaking for the rest of the readers. If not, you should not have typed that phrase. I said, Look up the court case for yourself, it is all a matter of public record; call the attorneys associated in the case, and read for yourself Don't you work for an attorney? Are you not readily familiar with public records? Since I have no interest in that lawsuit, why would I waste my time? I was commenting on your antics. |
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