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In misc.health.alternative Mark Probert wrote:
: Between your references and those posted by Vince, it is now well : documented that Not-A-Doctor Betty the Boob Martini was blowing smoke. Could you people *please* learn how to edit your posts? Back in my day, it was considered a serious breach of Netiquette to quote 96 lines of text in order to add two new ones. ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say: The only really perfect love is one that gets away. |
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On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, Mark Probert
wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince |
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More on blindness and aspartame Poisons
NutraSweet / Blindness Diabetes and Hypoglycaemia CHICAGO SUN-TIMES, Friday, October 17, 1986 Consumer group links NutraSweet to blindness By William Hines Chief, Washington Bureau Chicago Sun-Times Ban artificial sweetener, FDA is urged WASHINGTON - Charging that aspartame - the widely used artificial sweetener marketed as NutraSweet causes blindness, a consumer group yesterday petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to ban it. The petition was another step in a long and so far fruitless campaign by the Washington based Community Nutrition Institute against aspartame, which also is sold in stores under the name Equal. Three women who said their eyesight was seriously damaged or destroyed joined in the citizens' petition to the FDA, which they asked "to expeditiously remove [the] product from the market without an administrative hearing." At a press conference called by the institute to announce the imminent-hazard petition, two of the women told of heavy use of aspartame-sweetened products and said their doctors had advised them the sugar substitute was the cause of their sight loss. The NutraSweet Co., of Skokie, Ill., a subsidiary of Searle & Co., brushed off the institute's complaint as "simply another round in their repeated efforts to gain publicity for their thoroughly discredited views on aspartame." A Washington-based group called the International Food Information Council said through its executive director, Thomas E. Stenzel, the allegations "that aspartame causes various side effects are not based on any scientific data or controlled clinical studies." James S. Turner, a Washington lawyer representing the Community Nutrition Institute in the petition, said the eye damage to the women named in the complaint was "a direct, causally related event to their consumption of NutraSweet." Both heavy users, Both women, Dana Cozad of St. Petersburg, Fla., and Joyce Wilson of Stockbridge, Ga., described themselves as heavy users of the sweetener. Wilson, a real estate agent, said she no longer can take sales prospects to see property because her vision does not permit her to drive. "It has cost me a lot, and I really want the public to know what a dangerous product it is," Wilson said. Cozad said that vision loss struck her suddenly in the right eye while she was driving home and that lengthy surgery and other sight-saving efforts followed. She said vision is gone in that eye, and - after she has spent 13 months on an aspartame-free diet - the condition of the left eye "remains relatively stable." Both women said their physicians had ruled out causes other than aspartame for their sight loss. Methyl alcohol blamed Dr. H. J. Roberts of West Palm Beach, Fla., said methyl alcohol is a component of aspartame and is responsible for vision damage, which he termed "the most serious complication" of those arising from aspartame use. Aspartame, which is described as a "natural" product, contains two amino acids, phenylalanine and aspartic acid, which are components of protein. Under certain storage conditions, the sweetener breaks down in part and methyl alcohol is a byproduct. Roberts said the visual reaction to methyl alcohol in heavy users of aspartame is the same as in drinkers of moonshine whiskey in Prohibition days: "They go blind." Of 360 patients he has diagnosed as having aspartame- related problems, Roberts said, about one-fourth had decreased vision or blindness, nearly half had severe headaches and substantial numbers had epileptic seizures, confusion or memory loss, extreme depression and marked personality change. At FDA headquarters in Rockville, Md., spokesman William Grigg said the petition had been received but not yet studied. Grigg recalled that Turner filed several interventions against aspartame in the past, none of which received favorable FDA action. STATEMENT OF H. J. ROBERTS, M.D., CONCERNING THE USE OF PRODUCTS CONTAINING ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET) BY PERSONS WITH DIABETES AND HYPOGLYCEMIA. I have treated many patients with diabetes mellitus and hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) in my capacity as a Board-certified internist and an endocrinologist member of the Endocrine Society). Since both groups shold abstain from sugar, I initially rejoiced that these persons had an acceptable and presumable safe sugar substitute in aspartame. Unfortunately, many patients in my practice, and others seen in consultation, developed serious metabolic, neurologic and other complications that could be specifically attributed to using aspartame products. This was evidenced by: The loss of diabetic control, the intensification of hypoglycemia, the occurrence of presumed insulin reactions (including convulsions) that proved to be aspartame reactions, and the precipitation, aggravation or simulation of diabetic complications (especially impaired vision and neuropathy) while using these products. Dramatic improvement of such features after avoiding aspartame, AND the prompt predictable recurrent of these problems when the patient resumed aspartame products, knowlingly or inadvertently. I have cited many instances of severe complications in patients with diabetes and hypoglycemia caused by the use of aspartame products in my books and scientific articles. Here are few illustrations. A 21 year-old insulin-dependent teacher suffered more frequent insulin reactions both at school and at home, while drinking many aspartame colas daily. He reported: When we cut down on aspartame, I stopped having so many reactions. A diabetic man suffered severe changes in vision when he was drinking four liters of aspartame soft drinks daily. An opthalmologist assured him that there was no detectable diabetic retinopathy. The patient then chanced to read an article about aspartame-related eye problems. He promptly improved after avoiding these beverages, an unlikely event if the problem was primarily a diabetic retinopathy. A 46 year-old man with insulin-dependent diabetes had been in good control for three decades until he began using several aspartame sodas and packets of tabletop sweetener daily. He summarized his experience in these terms: My diabetes went haywire, and I had terrible insulin reactions. His diabetes was fully controlled within one week after abstaining from aspartame products. A 12 year-old boy with known diabetes required multiple hospitalizations for diabetic coma while consuming considerable aspartame products. Physicians at a university hospital had difficulty in stabilizing his insulin requirements while he used them. In the light of this experience, I now advise ALL my patients with diabetes and hypoglycemia to avoid aspartame products. A number of alternatives are available. I regret the failure of other physicians and the American Diabetes Association (ADA) to sound appropriate warnings to patients and consumers based on these repeated findings which have been described in my corporate-neutral studies and publications. This is largely due to these factors: 1) It has been virtually impossible to get on the programs for national meetings of diabetologists and other professional groups in order to describe these observations. Indeed, the ADA (of which I have been a member for over three decades) even refused to print an abstract of adverse reactions I encountered in 58 diabetic patients that was submitted for its 1987 annual meeting. This abstract subsequently appeared in CLINICAL RESEARCH (Vol. 3: 489A, 1988)...six years ago. 2) Journals devoted to diabetes and internal medicine have refused to publish my manuscripts on this subject due to negative comments from peer review. The likelihood at some of these reviewer-authorities had self-serving interests in denying publication is suggested below. 3) The AMA, the FDA, and the ADA dogmatically continue to express the unequivocal opinion that aspartame is completely safe for diabetics - and nearly everyone else. 4) Manufacturers and producers accomplished the marketing miracle of the 1980s through highly effective PR campaigns, the underwriting of numerous research projects (a number involving flawed protocols) by investigators they granted on contracted with, and enormous biopolitical clout in order to protect their billion-dollar market. I detailed these matters in my two books on the subject: ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET): IS IT SAFE? (Philadelphia, 1989, the Charles Press) and SWEETNER DEAREST: BITTERSWEET VIGNETTES ABOUT ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET) (West Palm Beach, 1992, Sunshine Sentinel Press, PO Box 8697 1-800-814-9800). They are also summarized in my two-tape lecture, IS ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET) SAFE? A MEDICAL, PUBLIC HEALTH AND LEGAL OVERVIEW (West Palm Beach, 1992, Sunshine Sentinel Press, PO Box 8697, 1-800-814-9800). I have discussed some of the reasons aspartame might aggravate diabetes and hypoglycemia in these books. The possible mechanisms include the following: Marked changes in appetite and weight as reflected by paradoxic weight gain or severe loss of weight. Excessive insulin secretion and depletion of the insulin reserve. Possible alteration of cellular receptor sites for insulin, with ensuing insulin resistance. Neurotransmitter alterations within the brain and peripheral nerves. The toxicity of each of the three components of aspartame (phenylalanine; aspartic acid: the methylester, which promptly becomes methyl alcohol or methanol), and their multiple breakdown products after exposure to heat or during prolonged storeage I have asserted in my publications, and in testimony both to Congress and FDA advisory group, that the current wholesale ingestion of aspartame products by over half the adult population constitutes an imminent public health hazard. Yet, this warning continues to be ignored by the medical profession and the FDA. Accordingly, informed and concerned consumers are justified in criticizing the industrial-medical complex that 1) refuses to acknowledge the problem of aspartame disease, and 2) fails to warn high-risk groups about the potential dangers. In addition to patients with diabetes and hypoglycemia, they include pregnant women, children, patients with epilepshy, liver, kidney disease and eating disorders, older persons with memory impairment, and the relatives of aspartame reactors, diabetics and patients with phenylketonuria. Many also correctly ask: Why is aspartame still on the market? Their concern is intensified by the high incidence of brain tumors in animals (known before FDA approval), and the reasonable doubt I have documented about the apparent contributory role of aspartame in human brain tumors. M.D. H.J. Roberts, M.D., F.A.C.P.,F.C.C.P. August 9 All doctors . |
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bigvince wrote:
On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, Mark Probert wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince And I applaud Vince's ability to completely snip where I quoted the WHO saying that vitamin A deficiency was a contributing factor to the damage caused by measles. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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On Jul 12, 4:52 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote:
bigvince wrote: On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, Mark Probert wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince And I applaud Vince's ability to completely snip where I quoted the WHO saying that vitamin A deficiency was a contributing factor to the damage caused by measles. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 Peter don't you remember this...From: Peter Bowditch Date: Jul 9, 5:37 am Subject: SPLENDA To: misc.health.alternative, misc.kids, misc.kids.health, misc.kids.pregnancy "Jan Drew" wrote: "Mark Probert" wrote in message news:bRhki.570$CJ4.567@trndny08... The One True Zhen Jue wrote: On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote: In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry. When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally manifest? Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would make you blind. Where are all those blind people? http://www.answers.com/topic/blindness?cat=health In November 2004 article Magnitude and causes of visual impairment, the WHO estimated that in 2002 there were 161 million (about 2.6% of the world population) visually impaired people in the world, of whom 124 million (about 2%) had low vision and 37 million (about 0.6%) were blind. [9] ==== How would anyone know if anyone's blindness was caused by aspartame? After all the health effects are denied... For ONE reason, it's called M O N E Y. BTW, what were you doing 30 years ago? How about 15 years ago? Hmmmm. Jan, the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com- Hide quoted text - Fact check time |
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bigvince wrote:
More on blindness and aspartame Poisons NutraSweet / Blindness Diabetes and Hypoglycaemia CHICAGO SUN-TIMES, Friday, October 17, 1986 Consumer group links NutraSweet to blindness By William Hines Chief, Washington Bureau Chicago Sun-Times Ban artificial sweetener, FDA is urged WASHINGTON - Charging that aspartame - the widely used artificial sweetener marketed as NutraSweet causes blindness, a consumer group yesterday petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to ban it. The petition was another step in a long and so far fruitless campaign by the Washington based Community Nutrition Institute You mean these people? http://www.communitynutrition.org/ If so....BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA The women overdosed. As for the rest...all opinion.... |
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In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: Fact check time You mean like checking your "facts" about the chemical composition of aspartame? First you, then Jan Drew, posted a long list of lies and half-truths about sucralose. I posted two responses in which I pointed out some of the more obvious scientific howlers; in the second of the two, I explained why a reasoned debate depends on accurate knowledge of the issues involved and why the screed you posted does nothing to promote any kind of reasoned debate of the potential risks and benefits. Why have neither of you responded to either of my posts on the issue? (That was a rhetorical question; I know very well why you didn't.) ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." |
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On Jul 16, 3:30 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : Fact check time You mean like checking your "facts" about the chemical composition of aspartame? First you, then Jan Drew, posted a long list of lies and half-truths about sucralose. I posted two responses in which I pointed out some of the more obvious scientific howlers; in the second of the two, I explained why a reasoned debate depends on accurate knowledge of the issues involved and why the screed you posted does nothing to promote any kind of reasoned debate of the potential risks and benefits. Why have neither of you responded to either of my posts on the issue? (That was a rhetorical question; I know very well why you didn't.) ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." Reasoned dedate starts with some modicum of honesty On Jul 12, 4:52 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - bigvince wrote: On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, Mark Probert wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince And I applaud Vince's ability to completely snip where I quoted the WHO saying that vitamin A deficiency was a contributing factor to the damage caused by measles. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 Peter don't you remember this...From: Peter Bowditch Date: Jul 9, 5:37 am Subject: SPLENDA To: misc.health.alternative, misc.kids, misc.kids.health, misc.kids.pregnancy - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Jan Drew" wrote: "Mark Probert" wrote in message news:bRhki.570$CJ4.567@trndny08... The One True Zhen Jue wrote: On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote: In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote: : In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote: : : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly : : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective : : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to : : prevent bacterial decomposition." : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical : use as food preservatives. : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . . Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide) Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry. When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally manifest? Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would make you blind. Where are all those blind people? http://www.answers.com/topic/blindness?cat=health In November 2004 article Magnitude and causes of visual impairment, the WHO estimated that in 2002 there were 161 million (about 2.6% of the world population) visually impaired people in the world, of whom 124 million (about 2%) had low vision and 37 million (about 0.6%) were blind. [9] ==== How would anyone know if anyone's blindness was caused by aspartame? After all the health effects are denied... For ONE reason, it's called M O N E Y. BTW, what were you doing 30 years ago? How about 15 years ago? Hmmmm. Jan, the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com- Hide quoted text - Fact check time - Show quoted text - bigvince wrote: On Jul 11, 10:25 pm, Mark Probert wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince And I applaud Vince's ability to completely snip where I quoted the WHO saying that vitamin A deficiency was a contributing factor to the damage caused by measles. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com As you contend ---In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : Fact check time As you contend that I" wrote a long list of lies" about sucralose please cite them .It is a rhetorical question you won't you can't. We can all have an opinion; you can not have your own set of facts. |
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In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: Reasoned dedate starts with some modicum of honesty Then why did you post that aspartame is a chlorocarbon, and why did you and Jan Drew separately post that screed about sucralose to which I provided a detailed response? ----- Richard Schultz Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "It is terrible to die of thirst in the ocean. Do you have to salt your truth so heavily that it does not even quench thirst any more?" |
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On Jul 17, 12:55 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote: : Reasoned dedate starts with some modicum of honesty Then why did you post that aspartame is a chlorocarbon, and why did you and Jan Drew separately post that screed about sucralose to which I provided a detailed response? All the postings I did refered to aspartame which I did identify wrongly as a chlorocarbon. Nowhere did I post the same as post as Jan Drew although I tend to agree with those postings.Please post the what you refer to as a 'screed' that you falsly claim both I and Jan Drew posted you won't : you can't We can all have opinions but there is one set of facts . Honest debate starts with honesty. When you can not post the common screed retract your in inaccurate statement. Or follow your pattern - On Jul 9, 5:37 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: , the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to support some anti-vaccination liar. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Leading cause of childhood blindness "Causes of Blindness Causes of Childhood Blindness: Worldwide Vitamin A Deficiency (Xerophthalmia) A recent analysis of data indicates that vitamin A deficiency is the leading cause of childhood blindness. It was estimated that 70% of the 500,000 children who become blind annually do so because of xerophthalmia. This corresponds to a prevalence of roughly 1 million in view of the high mortality among affected children. (Thylefors, et al.', source Lighthouse International link http://www.lighthouse.org/medical/causes-of-blindness/ Vinnie, you are right on the money. Home run! Grand slam! Absolutely: as you implicitly admit that Peter from ratbags was simply stating a falsehood when he attributed the leading cause of childhood blindness to measles . The leading cause of childhood blindness worldwide is vitamin a deficiency. I applaud you for correcting Peter.; but as the citation was in regard to childhood blindness; no conclusion can be drawn in regard to the general population ergo the rest of your comments are unsupported. But again you were exactly right in noticing the error Peter made when attributing the majority of childhood blindness to measles. Thanks Vince And I applaud Vince's ability to completely snip where I quoted the WHO saying that vitamin A deficiency was a contributing factor to the damage caused by measles. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 Follow Peters template. You actually teach? |
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