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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
Why............because John asked.....nicely.
Got a problem with that? "JohnDoe" wrote in message . .. john wrote: "Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Didn't read the papers, did you? There are several in the links that I provided which compared people who never received vaccines to those who did. Not that we're surprised, you tend to ignore inconvenient things. Bryan I did read some and they never specified 100% unvaccinated kids, so if can actually prove from the text they are then do so unvaccinated in their world doesn't mean 100% unvaccinated, it only means unvaccinated with the particular vaccine they are studying but I thought you could figure that out yourself so if you have the studies that say this then post them or e mail them to me, as you said you would Why? Would you change your mind when you get evidence contrary to your opinion? |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
"Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Several of those studies included groups which had never received vaccines. As I've said a million times before, read the articles. Here's a few more which look at groups who've never received any vaccine befo http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_DocS um Just provide 2 that prove they use 100% unvax as controls. That one above was just a puff piece about polio vax See above. I'd e-mail them directly, but you cower behind a fake e-mail. Pretty hard to send you stuff without a valid addy Cower? Any moron, even you, could go to whale.to and find it, but you don't have any studies that show 100% unvax kids |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
In message , Mark Probert wrote:
Brian, do not fall into the "mortality trap" of the anti-vaccination loons. The key thing is that vaccines have substantially reduced the incidence of many diseases and, in some situations, made the infections milder. These factors, in addition to the lowering of the already low death rates, have also reduced the incidence of severe disability. The loons would have you focus on the death rates and not the incidence rates. Party pooper. When you have a set of clear steps in a causal chain, it's much more fun to look at only the end of the chain which supports your position -- or at least can be made to do so. Example: the auto industry has made a great deal of US DOT research that found that accident mortality is lower in SUVs than in smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles. That reputation for safety is one reason that the behemoths are popular in the soccer-Mom set. Well, after a decade or more promoting them the DOT got to looking a bit more at their own data and found that deaths per passenger-mile are no lower for SUVs than any other type. It seems that, yes, other things being equal you're better off being in a Hummer than in the Accord the Hummer runs into. (Of course, it doesn't help much when the other vehicle is a semi.) However, the rate of accidents for SUVs makes up for it -- the dang things don't avoid wrecks at all well for various reasons. Add in the fact that quite a few of the fatalities in smaller vehicles are due to being impaled by the ladder frame of an out-of-control SUV and the picture changes beyond recognition. All things considered, it seems best to identify the contributing factors in a chain of events so as to address each one. Modern treatment has dramatically reduced the deaths from typhoid and pneumonia, and that's a good thing. However, it seems best to reduce the need for all that goodness by not getting them in the first place, no? -- begin signature.exe A:*Because*it*messes*up*the*order*in*which*people* normally*read*text. Q:*Why*is*top-posting*such*a*bad*thing? A:*Top-posting. Q:*What*is*the*most*annoying*thing*on*usenet? |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
I wish that everytime I looked at the Nursing Newsgroup I didn't hae to wade
through all the cross-posted stuff. Could we keep some of these discussions in the alt health and kids health groups?? Take sci.med.nursing group off when you reply to the posts. It is getting way too crowded in here. |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
Oh look, John failed to read the papers again...
Wouldn't want to challenge your dearly-held beliefs, now would we? Bryan |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
"Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Oh look, John failed to read the papers again... Oh look, Bryan is making the subject about *John*. Wouldn't want to challenge your dearly-held beliefs, now would we? Bryan Dearly-held beliefs................ Certainly glad you don't have any................. |
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Vaccines HAVE to go, there can be no compromise on this issue.
"Jan Drew" wrote in message .. . "Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Oh look, John failed to read the papers again... Oh look, Bryan is making the subject about *John*. Wouldn't want to challenge your dearly-held beliefs, now would we? Bryan Dearly-held beliefs................ Certainly glad you don't have any................. LOL. |
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