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john wrote:
"HCN" wrote in message . .. pharma drivel deleted Notice how these pharma boys like to be anonymous Just like , right? |
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"Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Johns just bitter because he tried to re-write the vaccine section and was spanked for filling it with his lies. so now he says the whole thing is crap, aside from the one or two entries which fit his perceptions. Those limited number are OK. Bryan vax bull****. Their main effort was to block links to smallpox books on line http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox14.html So unless you think 30 books are all lies, but in your world anyone who doesn't believe in vaccines is a liar/crank/quack/mad |
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john wrote:
So unless you think 30 books are all lies Not lies, just fiction. Bryan |
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"Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... john wrote: So unless you think 30 books are all lies Not lies, just fiction. Bryan Fiction is the vaccinator/allopath story of vaccination, get the real one on whale.to Which is why the allopaths have to spend so much time lying on places like Wikipedia |
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john wrote: "HCN" wrote in message ... pharma drivel deleted Notice how these pharma boys like to be anonymous Fact: Measles deaths declined by 99.4% before vax. So no evidence vax did anything. Fact: measles declined not at all before vax. Measles declined by over 99.9% after vax. So massive evidence vax did something. Fact: measles killed hundreds in the US every year before vax, now down to approximately zero. So massive evidence vax did something. Fact: Vitamin C prevents all deaths and disability. Never used by pharma boys which shows where they are coming from Fact: massive overstatement, backed by a couple of uncontrolled studies from the 1940s. Fact: Measles is safe if managed properly, even without vitamin C. A medical naturopath in 1890 never lost anyone to measles Fact: No way to verify that claim now, over 100 years later. Fact: Over 50% of measles deaths in first world are due to other drugs like steroids. Fact: Nonsensical claim, propagated by Luddites who think all modern technology is evil. Fact: MMR kills and causes ADD, now 1 in 100 kids. At least 26 deaths in UK caused by MMR. Fact: Measles kills and disables, no evidence on ADD. 26 deaths over how many years? Come to think of it, ADD is a new claim by the anti-vaxers about MMR. Guess the autism reed was getting too slender. Fact: Last MMR vaccine was withdrawn as unsafe when it caused meningitis http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr9.html Fact: other MMR vaccines still on market. Note to pharma moron: Because, of course... measles as a virus does not exist in the world where the "germ theory" does not exist. But instead, in such a world, diseases are caused by evil spirits. Study the Bechamp cellular disease theory so you know what we believe http://www.whale.to/v/disease2.html Then you're *know* they're nuts. Especially when they haul out a fraudulent "quotation" from Pasteur to back their position. No where do we say germs don't exist. This is the two theories side by side http://www.whale.to/v/germ.htm No, they just have the cart before the horse and claim the germs are the symptom, not the cause. Then they haul out a fraudulent set of claims about Koch's postulates and HIV to try to prove AIDS doesn't exist. Not hobbled by consistency. This is in a world governed by gods, ley-lines, fairies, goblins and bad diets. You may want to live in your fairy-tale world, but unfortunately the victims of the witch-doctors are very real. Yes, they are 780,000 deaths by Allopathy every year in US alone http://www.whale.to/w/iatrogenic.html Right -- "allopaths" are to blame for the fact that people in nursing homes get bedsores, and are to blame when someone is malnourished. Damn those allopaths! They're also to blame for all car crashes, earthquakes, and the troubles in the Middle East. And relying on ad hominem is just an admission you have no argument, When john does it, however, and he often does, then it's OK. It's just not OK when other people do it. I'll have to put you in my kill file along with the rest That is to say, the rest of the people who raise points for which john has no canned answer on whale.to. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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In message , john wrote:
Fact: Measles deaths declined by 99.4% before vax. So no evidence vax did anything. So the 441,703 US cases in 1960 represented only 0.6% of the more than 73 million cases per year earlier in the century? Something doesn't add up here. Please clarify the maths. Fact: Vitamin C prevents all deaths and disability. Never used by pharma boys which shows where they are coming from Easy enough to prove by posting the statistics for New Mexico or Ireland, both areas where the population ingests massive amounts of vitamin C (high enough that a change in diet to one normal elsewhere can result in withdrawal scurvy.) According to your vitamin C theory, the measles mortality in New Mexico or Ireland in 1960 should have been markedly less than that in Scotland or Colorado. Fact: Measles is safe if managed properly, even without vitamin C. A medical naturopath in 1890 never lost anyone to measles How many did he lose to pneumonia? Fact: Over 50% of measles deaths in first world are due to other drugs like steroids. Again, easy to test. A very high percentage of the measles cases in the Netherlands occur in religious communities which neither vaccinate nor use any other medicines including steroids. What is their case mortality compared to the rest of the Netherlands? -- begin signature.exe A:*Because*it*messes*up*the*order*in*which*people* normally*read*text. Q:*Why*is*top-posting*such*a*bad*thing? A:*Top-posting. Q:*What*is*the*most*annoying*thing*on*usenet? |
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