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'Kate 'Kate wrote in message ... This may surprise you but some men know darn well that if they shrink a few sweaters or put something dark in the white wash a few times, that will be the last time they are ever asked to do laundry in the house. And plenty of women know how to stand beside a flat tyred car looking helpless and letting a gallant male do the job when they are quite capable of changing the wheel themselves. Dennis |
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Joelle wrote in message I think young babies need mama's in a way that men can't fulfill. Cobblers! Why then did (and still does,) Freddie bypass his mother to get to me for his comfort? I'll tell you. Because I did 90% of the night feeding, he was only weeks old initially and I did it until he stopped night feeds. The messages sent through our eye contact during those precious hours has lasted and I expect it will continue for some time to come. After the feed I used to nestle him on my chest with his ear over my heartbeat. He felt safe, secure and at ease with me, I became his comfort. If I did it then so can any man. Most never get the opportunity because of the prevailing attitudes being discussed in this thread. Dennis |
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'Kate 'Kate wrote in message But many mothers can use a breast pump (no, not all) and most fathers are very good nurturers when given the chance. I had the chance, I also had the pumped breastmilk initially as Freddie's mother was quite ill after giving birth. Later, when she was able to "take over" it never happened so I carried on. I still am! I wish fathers felt their true value within the family. I think they've been made to feel superfluous by the changes in society and the more militant members of the women's rights movement. Not my generation. Perhaps young men have been influenced more but that would not be all bad. Getting the balance right seems to be the problem. A good man is a loving, kind, and considerate father. He stands by his children and spouse regardless of the ups and downs. He communicates openly with his wife about the children and works with her as a united team for the benefit of the family unit. He makes himself available and takes an interest in the children's interests. He wants to spend time with them because he genuinely likes them. As a husband, someone who asks, "How are you doing?" and means it. Someone who is honest, open, trustworthy and will not betray my confidences. Someone who sees me as a woman and not just a mother, housekeeper, or any of the other roles that I take on in life... and one who cherishes the marriage by doing things that are special to us as a couple. He would be intelligent and make me laugh but know when it's time to be serious too. He would not be prone to angry outbursts but be passionate about life and have a wide range of interests. He must be able to express himself without being demanding or putting others down. Hiya 'Kate! [waving] here I am! Dennis |
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Andrew wrote in message ... PS Joelle, don't say things like 'he was older, 35'. It hurts. 35 is not older, it is prime rib from there till at least 45. (Dennis, help me out here?? 35-55, your sexiest years???) :-) Well, that would be for them to decide! Dennis |
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Vickychick wrote in message So right. You must have patience. I am now teaching J and C to iron. I taught both older boys to iron. When married I used to do most of it anyway. After seperation I was the one who always sent them to school in an ironed uniform. Still the same with Freddie's mother, uniform comes back un-ironed on a Sunday night! Since I started work I have bought another. Just before I came on line tonight I was supervising Freddie making cakes! Real man's work. Trouble is we fight over who gets to scrape the bowl! Dennis BOTH a male and female child are doing the same chores and I do not label them as "male or female" roles. That does not fly in my home. V |
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'Kate 'Kate wrote in message ... I can only theorize that the idea of motherhood and fatherhood must change to catch up to the economic changes in the operation of the family. Already changing . Thirty years ago, men spent an average of 15 minutes a day with their children. Today, it's three hours. And new research shows it's the amount of 'father time' which is driving down juvenile crime and pushing up levels of literacy. Mark Honigsbaum meets the family men who are aspiring to be better dads than their fathers were to them Sunday November 30, 2003 The Observer Full article, well worth the read at http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magaz...094709,00.html Dennis |
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"Dennis Here" youreply wrote in message ... 'Kate 'Kate wrote in message ... This may surprise you but some men know darn well that if they shrink a few sweaters or put something dark in the white wash a few times, that will be the last time they are ever asked to do laundry in the house. And plenty of women know how to stand beside a flat tyred car looking helpless and letting a gallant male do the job when they are quite capable of changing the wheel themselves. Dennis You never think about the obvious until its pointed out. That very example is one I have done many times. I can also recall getting calls on the mobile to dash over and rescue people by changing tyres. I'm going to have to lie down and review it all now. Hmm. Andrew |
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Dennis Here youreply wrote in message ... 'Kate 'Kate wrote in message ... This may surprise you but some men know darn well that if they shrink a few sweaters or put something dark in the white wash a few times, that will be the last time they are ever asked to do laundry in the house. And plenty of women know how to stand beside a flat tyred car looking helpless and letting a gallant male do the job when they are quite capable of changing the wheel themselves. Dennis Isn't that what AAA is for? Plus I have this program with my new car. I have never changed a tire nor due I plan to. I do however, know HOW to thanks to a mechanic friend. I also know how to change the oil and some other simple things to a car. I have dated men who didn't know **** about a car either BTW. T |
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Dennis Here youreply wrote in message ... Joelle wrote in message I think young babies need mama's in a way that men can't fulfill. Cobblers! Why then did (and still does,) Freddie bypass his mother to get to me for his comfort? I'll tell you. Because I did 90% of the night feeding, he was only weeks old initially and I did it until he stopped night feeds. The messages sent through our eye contact during those precious hours has lasted and I expect it will continue for some time to come. After the feed I used to nestle him on my chest with his ear over my heartbeat. He felt safe, secure and at ease with me, I became his comfort. If I did it then so can any man. Most never get the opportunity because of the prevailing attitudes being discussed in this thread. Dennis I agree with you Dennis. It isn't all about who can breastfeed the child, as I am sure there is a high percentage of mothers who don't breastfeed anyways. It is about the parent spending time and nurturing the baby. That can be done by any sex. T |
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And plenty of women know how to stand beside a flat tyred car looking
helpless and letting a gallant male do the job when they are quite capable of changing the wheel themselves Actually flat tires are what I pay for Triple A for. Yea, I could do it, but last time it was raining and I was more than happy to pay someone else to do it. Joelle The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St Augustine Joelle |
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