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October 16th 03, 05:51 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54...
"Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill  , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net *** OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? 
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October 16th 03, 05:51 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54...
"Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net *** OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then?
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#23
October 16th 03, 06:20 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Leslie" wrote in message
om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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#24
October 16th 03, 06:20 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Leslie" wrote in message
om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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October 16th 03, 06:20 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Leslie" wrote in message
om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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October 16th 03, 11:30 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Tracy" wrote in message news:srAjb.569919$Oz4.538103@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. ---------------------- When I get my snip I want everything, cut, burn and chop!! No way I'm going to have a baby. ~AZ~ Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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#27
October 16th 03, 11:30 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Tracy" wrote in message news:srAjb.569919$Oz4.538103@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. ---------------------- When I get my snip I want everything, cut, burn and chop!! No way I'm going to have a baby. ~AZ~ Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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October 16th 03, 11:30 PM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"Tracy" wrote in message news:srAjb.569919$Oz4.538103@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... "Tracy" wrote in message news:qeljb.565078$Oz4.526811@rwcrnsc54... "Leslie" wrote in message om... And saying that a man just has "to say no to sex" is bull. He does have to be responsible and use protection at all times, (and remember to take his pill , but abstinance is certainly not his "only choice".~AZ~ You might not like the cold hard facts, but even with using birth control, or even if a man has been snipped (recently), there is STILL a small chance that the woman could get pregnant. Women that are on the pill get pregnant every day. Men who wear a condom end up with a pregnant partner every day. Men who get a vasectomy end up with a pregnant partner every day. THE ONLY 100% CHANCE OF NOT HAVING A CHILD IS TO NOT HAVE SEX OR CONFIRMED STERILIZATION. I'd be very careful with what you are saying, because you are 100% incorrect in stating confirmed sterilization is 100% effective. Sterilization - confirmed or not - is not 100%. It is near 100%, but there has been cases where someone has fathered, or mothered, a child after being surgically sterilized. OK then. Either you don't have sex, or how about castration? Would there still be a chance then? Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. ---------------------- When I get my snip I want everything, cut, burn and chop!! No way I'm going to have a baby. ~AZ~ Tracy ~~~~~~~ http://www.hornschuch.net/tracy/ "You can't solve problems with the same type of thinking that created them." Albert Einstein *** spamguard in place! to email me: tracy at hornschuch dot net ***
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#29
October 17th 03, 12:49 AM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "Tracy" wrote in message news:srAjb.569919$Oz4.538103@rwcrnsc54... .................................................. ...... Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. ---------------------- When I get my snip I want everything, cut, burn and chop!! No way I'm going to have a baby. ~AZ~ == A question from the resident cynic: Does anyone *really know* anyone who got pregnant while on birth control (properly taken) or after their tubes were tied (or post vasectomy), who *wasn't* lying about the protection? == ==
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#30
October 17th 03, 12:49 AM
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Convincing woman to use abortion/adoption issue
"AZ Astrea" wrote in message ... "Tracy" wrote in message news:srAjb.569919$Oz4.538103@rwcrnsc54... .................................................. ...... Are you trying to be facetious? I was just trying to correct you on your belief regarding sterilization. I happen to understand the chances regarding sterilization because I had a tubal after the birth of my youngest son. It hasn't failed me yet, but I'm very much aware that there exists a 1 in 1200 chance of me becoming pregnant. AZ posted the chances for men & sterilization. Women can have difference chances depending on the exact procedure used to surgical sterilize. ---------------------- When I get my snip I want everything, cut, burn and chop!! No way I'm going to have a baby. ~AZ~ == A question from the resident cynic: Does anyone *really know* anyone who got pregnant while on birth control (properly taken) or after their tubes were tied (or post vasectomy), who *wasn't* lying about the protection? == ==
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