Children 'should sleep with parents until five'

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
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Linz wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
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In misc.kids.breastfeeding Babypar wrote:
Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html
This is absolutely unproven bull****, and some studies have shown
taht co-sleeping prevents SIDS.

Try again,
Larry
It was posted by John, the embarrassed owner of the infamous whale.to
website, Usenet's largest suppository of mis- and dys-information.
No, Larry was responding to Babypar's bull****, not john's.
So much bull**** it gets confusing...

Poor, Mark...

Posting all day instead of working.

Incorrect. Between serious matters I like to read your posts since a spot
of humor is always in order. I go right to your posts because they are the
funniest.

Once aging Mark shows us he is DTABOR...

He wasn't replying to anything I wrote.....

In article , john wrote:

"Babypar" wrote in message
roups.com...
Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html


"Experts do not know exactly what causes cot death"

See: Experts http://www.whale.to/a/experts.html

See: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/sids.html

"Scientific evidence shows that babies can have severe adverse reactions to
vaccinations at critical intervals following their shots, and that
vaccination is the more likely cause of cot death and shaken baby syndrome.
"---VACCINATION AND THE DYNAMICS OF CRITICAL DAYS by Viera Scheibner, PhD

Scheibner wouldn't recognize good evidence if it walked up and spit in
her eye.

New Zealand's SIDS rate was much higher when their vaccination rate
was lower. Rates in the US have dropped considerably despite high
vaccination levels.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth

David Wright wrote:
In article , john wrote:

"Babypar" wrote in message
groups.com...

Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html


"Experts do not know exactly what causes cot death"

See: Experts http://www.whale.to/a/experts.html

See: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/sids.html

"Scientific evidence shows that babies can have severe adverse reactions to
vaccinations at critical intervals following their shots, and that
vaccination is the more likely cause of cot death and shaken baby syndrome.
"---VACCINATION AND THE DYNAMICS OF CRITICAL DAYS by Viera Scheibner, PhD


Scheibner wouldn't recognize good evidence if it walked up and spit in
her eye.

New Zealand's SIDS rate was much higher when their vaccination rate
was lower. Rates in the US have dropped considerably despite high
vaccination levels.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth


We are the second highest nation of newborn infant death in the world. I
don't think we have dropped enough.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/paren...mothers.index/

Jo

"Jo" wrote in message
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Scheibner wouldn't recognize good evidence if it walked up and spit in
her eye.

try dealing with the evidence one day


New Zealand's SIDS rate was much higher when their vaccination rate
was lower. Rates in the US have dropped considerably despite high
vaccination levels.

absoulte ********, as jo says USA death rate is dire, purely due to
vaccination, and looks to be getting WORSE from 2004
http://www.whale.to/m/infant.html





We are the second highest nation of newborn infant death in the world. I
don't think we have dropped enough.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/paren...mothers.index/

Jo

In article ,
Jo wrote:
David Wright wrote:
In article , john wrote:

"Babypar" wrote in message
egroups.com...

Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html


"Experts do not know exactly what causes cot death"

See: Experts http://www.whale.to/a/experts.html

See: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/sids.html

"Scientific evidence shows that babies can have severe adverse reactions to
vaccinations at critical intervals following their shots, and that
vaccination is the more likely cause of cot death and shaken baby syndrome.
"---VACCINATION AND THE DYNAMICS OF CRITICAL DAYS by Viera Scheibner, PhD


Scheibner wouldn't recognize good evidence if it walked up and spit in
her eye.

New Zealand's SIDS rate was much higher when their vaccination rate
was lower. Rates in the US have dropped considerably despite high
vaccination levels.

We are the second highest nation of newborn infant death in the world. I
don't think we have dropped enough.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/paren...mothers.index/

I don't either, but that article is talking about deaths from all
causes, not SIDS.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth

In article , john wrote:

"Jo" wrote in message
...

Scheibner wouldn't recognize good evidence if it walked up and spit in
her eye.

try dealing with the evidence one day

Why? Scheibner never does.

New Zealand's SIDS rate was much higher when their vaccination rate
was lower. Rates in the US have dropped considerably despite high
vaccination levels.

absoulte ********, as jo says USA death rate is dire, purely due to
vaccination, and looks to be getting WORSE from 2004
http://www.whale.to/m/infant.html

Citing your brain-damaged web site is not evidence. And you're
talking about all-cause mortality on that web page, not SIDS,
dimbulb. The page says nothing about SIDS rates or trends, no
numbers, just your "must be due to vaccination" blather.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth

Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Linz wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
wrote:
In misc.kids.breastfeeding Babypar wrote:
Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html
This is absolutely unproven bull****, and some studies have shown
taht co-sleeping prevents SIDS.

Try again,
Larry
It was posted by John, the embarrassed owner of the infamous whale.to
website, Usenet's largest suppository of mis- and dys-information.
No, Larry was responding to Babypar's bull****, not john's.
So much bull**** it gets confusing...
Poor, Mark...

Posting all day instead of working.
Incorrect. Between serious matters I like to read your posts since a spot
of humor is always in order. I go right to your posts because they are the
funniest.

Once aging Mark shows us he is DTABOR...

He wasn't replying to anything I wrote.....

Incorrect. I was responding to your comment about posting all day
instead of working.

Clearly, I was t*oo* figurative for you, again.

wrote:
In misc.kids.breastfeeding Babypar wrote:
: Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
: http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html

This is absolutely unproven bull****,

That's putting it considerably too strongly. Of the studies that have
actually compared SIDS babies to non-SIDS babies with respect to
co-sleeping, three have now shown a link between co-sleeping and SIDS
(although several others have not). All of these are retrospective
studies, which means that the positive results may have been due to
confounding factors; and it's noticeable that the best-designed study
I've yet seen from the POV of controlling for confounding factors (the
BMJ study from 1999) shows no difference in risk from co-sleeping, which
means it's quite probable that the results of the abovementioned studies
*were* in fact due to confounding factors. (Or, in plain English for
those who don't like statisticalese - there is some evidence for a link
between SIDS and co-sleeping, although it isn't conclusive evidence.)

But I would definitely say that the jury is not yet in on this one.
Unproven, yes - but not bull****.


All the best,

Sarah

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"That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be" - P. C. Hodgell

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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Linz wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
wrote:
In misc.kids.breastfeeding Babypar wrote:
Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html
This is absolutely unproven bull****, and some studies have shown
taht co-sleeping prevents SIDS.

Try again,
Larry
It was posted by John, the embarrassed owner of the infamous
whale.to
website, Usenet's largest suppository of mis- and dys-information.
No, Larry was responding to Babypar's bull****, not john's.
So much bull**** it gets confusing...
Poor, Mark...

Posting all day instead of working.
Incorrect. Between serious matters I like to read your posts since a
spot of humor is always in order. I go right to your posts because they
are the funniest.

Once aging Mark shows us he is DTABOR...

He wasn't replying to anything I wrote.....

Incorrect. I was responding to your comment about posting all day instead
of working.

Clearly, I was t*oo* figurative for you, again.

Clearly you were confused BEFORE.. I posted in this thread.

DTABOR!

On Sun, 21 May 2006 00:28:53 +0100, Sarah Vaughan wrote:

wrote:
In misc.kids.breastfeeding Babypar wrote:
: Sleeping with your young baby is a contributory factor in SID
: http://www.baby-parenting.com/baby/cot_death.html

This is absolutely unproven bull****,


But I would definitely say that the jury is not yet in on this one.
Unproven, yes - but not bull****.

This has just been on the news today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5001694.stm

The SIDS foundation supports this research.

Jeni