EMERGENCY baby now losing weight

"H Schinske" wrote in message
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wrote:
No, I've been checking his temperature and it's been normal, the doc says
its very difficult to diagnose UTI in babies.

Say WHAT? It's the same way you diagnose one in any other person. You get
a
urine sample.

My son was cathed for a urine test at a few days old -- it wasn't
especially
fun but it wasn't traumatic by any means.

I cannot OVERSTRESS how important it is to get him tested for a UTI. Anne,
you need a sample taken TODAY. Do NOT let it wait. INSIST that it be done.

My nephew almost died as a result of failure to thrive due to an undiagnosed
UTI. He was 2 months old. Like your baby, he was losing weight. The initial
diagnosis was insufficient milk supply, which was ridiculous since my sister
could pump fountains of milk with a crappy hand pump in mere minutes. He
didn't fuss and never had a fever; he was, in fact, a perfectly content baby
who, due to no appetite as a result of the UTI, was "happy to starve". It
was only AFTER he was hospitalized, switched to formula, and still failing
to gain weight that the UTI was discovered. Alas, it was too late to save
the breastfeeding relationship.

While it's entirely possible that something OTHER than a UTI is the cause of
your baby's weight loss, it is the first thing you should rule out. You
DON'T want to wind up on formula only to discover it's not helping!

The hv has been weighing babies in the baby clinic apparently no others
have lost or even slowed weight gain, his weight gain had been slow in the
previous 3 weeks, only 4 ounces. I'm going to rest and nurse and ear for
the next three days in a hope to trigger some gain and increasing supply,
however I have been trying to do this for 6 days already!



You NEED to make sure there isn't an underlying infection or some other type of
disorder.

My dd was under the 5th% (dropped down a few percentiles) when she was a year
old. Her doctor tested her for renal tubular acidosis. I think someone else on
this group has a child with that disorder. My dd fortunately didn't have it,
but it is one cause of failure to thrive. It's apparently one of the more
common reasons for FTT. (not that it's all that common overall)


What I'm trying to say, and others are too, is that sometimes doctors don't
look any farther than blaming weight problems on bf and lack of supply. Since
you say output is good, you think, then I'd pursue other reasons for the weight
gain problem. That doesn't mean you can't also try to increase feedings or
your supply at the same time.

Maryilee

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Thanks for all your help. Starting today we are recording feeding details
and nappy details. I've ditched the pump as I'm not convinced I really
have supply issues, but I think it may have been causing problems rather
than helping. I've sent hubbie to try and buy domperidone, I'm not sure if
he'll find it as it probably has a different trade name in the UK. I've
also bought some fenugreek seeds, I plan to munch a teaspoon 3 times a
day, which is the dosage I found on www.kellymom.com. I'm also drinking
red raspberry leaf tea, I've read it could have a good effect and as we
had some in the cupboard it seems worth a try. I eat oatmeal for breakfast
anyway, but my sister has made me some flapjacks to snack on. We moved
the baby in to our room last night, not sure what difference it should
make, he still only woke once after 7 hours sleep, but I did wake him
before I went to bed to feed and after his long sleep he only slept an
hour before having an hour before having a long feed. I'm waiting til
Thursday to see the doc as I can't get there any sooner as I need a ride
due to having hurt my leg last week, I will request he does a urine test,
I'll print out some of your replies to show him too. Thanks again for all
your help.

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Anne Rogers

Anne Rogers wrote:
I'm waiting
til Thursday to see the doc as I can't get there any sooner as I need
a ride due to having hurt my leg last week, I will request he does a
urine test, I'll print out some of your replies to show him too.
Thanks again for all your help.

It certainly sounds like you are doing everything you can do right now.
I've nothing new to add to the advice you've already received. Good luck at
the doctor and keep us udated.

--
Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)

"Anne Rogers" wrote
I've sent hubbie to try and buy domperidone, I'm not sure if
he'll find it as it probably has a different trade name in the UK.

Motilium. I'm the resident pusher around here :-).

Jean

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Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of
Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, and
though they are with you, yet they belong not to you." Khalil Gibran

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Anne,
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Relax, it's only 2 oz.....The Nurse has no reason to threaten you that
way....I tallied her wirght gisn since she was born and it is almost 1.54
lb.s a day!!!! You sghould be pretty happy about that. 2 oz. can easily be
a problem with the scale, even if it is the same scale. It could have been
leaning on something, or he could have lost 2 oz, but it isn't that much to
be concerned about right now. Do what you are doing now...She may be
slowing down in weight, mine did. Not all babies are chubby and yet they
are still just as healthy as the chubby ones.....You are giving her enough
to grow. She managed to gain more than 3 pounds and that has been during the
beginning, if there was a problem with your supply or the latch then you
would have seen a problem immediately.

I am going thru a similiar situation with my son, he is 7 1/2 months and now
he is 15 pounds and 24 inches. He is finally at the 3% line and well below
the charts for height.....So, they are sending him to a groupl of
specialists to see what is wrong. My doc has not even winced a concern
about my BM, because there isn't an issues, there is a problem with
him.........I wish you luck, and ldon't let anyone bully you about giving
supplement, until you have depleted all options of giving BM thru a bottle
or an SNS.



After not being weighed for a few weeks last Monday my baby weighed 8lb
13.5oz aged 10 weeks 5 days. Today aged 11 weeks 5 days he was reweighed
on the same scales he weighed 8lb 11.5 oz, a weight loss of 2oz in a week.

"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
...
: Thanks for all your help. Starting today we are recording feeding details
: and nappy details. I've ditched the pump as I'm not convinced I really
: have supply issues, but I think it may have been causing problems rather
: than helping. I've sent hubbie to try and buy domperidone, I'm not sure if
: he'll find it as it probably has a different trade name in the UK. I've
: also bought some fenugreek seeds, I plan to munch a teaspoon 3 times a
: day, which is the dosage I found on www.kellymom.com. I'm also drinking
: red raspberry leaf tea, I've read it could have a good effect and as we
: had some in the cupboard it seems worth a try. I eat oatmeal for breakfast
: anyway, but my sister has made me some flapjacks to snack on. We moved
: the baby in to our room last night, not sure what difference it should
: make, he still only woke once after 7 hours sleep, but I did wake him
: before I went to bed to feed and after his long sleep he only slept an
: hour before having an hour before having a long feed. I'm waiting til
: Thursday to see the doc as I can't get there any sooner as I need a ride
: due to having hurt my leg last week, I will request he does a urine test,
: I'll print out some of your replies to show him too. Thanks again for all
: your help.
:
: -----------
: Anne Rogers
:
:
Anne, being new to bf myself I couldn't offer you any suggestions in the
main thread but at this point I just wanted to wish you luck, it seems like
you are doing a lot to help the situation and hopefully the dr works with
you and not against you.
BTW I think Jean mentioned that Motilium is the brand name that you with
find domperidone under in the UK.
Marie