Question about vaccinations for toddler and baby

I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1 hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.
2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to close
to baby.

Thanks

"Jill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try
and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1
hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.

Which ones do you want him to get? I'm a big fan of selective vaccination, I
don't vaccinate my child for anything I don't feel she needs (i.e. polio,
hepatitis b, dtp, chicken pox, etc...) all she's ever had was the MMR - but
as 3 seperate vaccinations and specially ordered thimersol free.

2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure
what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.


Depends on what you decide to do.

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that
my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to
close
to baby.


No, those are all inactive (dead) vaccines and cannot be passed on to
others.

Jill wrote:

I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1 hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.

I would ask your ped, as the right answer may well vary
by your locale and specific local risk factors. There is a
shortage of Prevnar right now, but if he hasn't had any then
he might be considered high risk enough to have it.

2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.

Sorry, not sure. Why don't you want him to get it
again in two years?

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to close
to baby.

I don't think any of the vaccines you mention are
live viruses. Unless your baby is immunocompromised, I
wouldn't worry.

Best wishes,
Ericka

Thanks Melody,

What state are you in?
I agree. I will not get the hepb for my son. He did have the 1st and
reacted to it (dopey, peculiar chirping and lethargic for 2 weeks, enough of
that vaccine)

Does the DT come without thimerosol? Perhaps that is an option in replace
of hte DTaP.
You mean the MMR I would get in the peds office has thimerosol in it?

How do you get away with this in daycare and also kindergarten?

Thanks for your help.



"Melody" wrote in message
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"Jill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try
and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1
hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.

Which ones do you want him to get? I'm a big fan of selective vaccination,
I
don't vaccinate my child for anything I don't feel she needs (i.e. polio,
hepatitis b, dtp, chicken pox, etc...) all she's ever had was the MMR -
but
as 3 seperate vaccinations and specially ordered thimersol free.

2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as
a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure
what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.


Depends on what you decide to do.

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that
my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to
close
to baby.


No, those are all inactive (dead) vaccines and cannot be passed on to
others.

In message et, Jill
writes
I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1 hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.
2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to close
to baby.

Is the polio vaccine he's getting oral or injectable? The oral polio
vaccine is live and can be passed on to unimmunised people, but the
injectable is a killed virus and can't be. Check this with the doctor's
office.


All the best,

Sarah

--
"I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed
and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley

"Jill" wrote in message
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Thanks Melody,

What state are you in?

Tennessee, but I have a book with state by state lists of vaccine laws if
you need info.

I agree. I will not get the hepb for my son. He did have the 1st and
reacted to it (dopey, peculiar chirping and lethargic for 2 weeks, enough
of
that vaccine)


I think it's a stupid one anyway. I'll definitely see that my daughter gets
one if/when she needs it but at 6 weeks of age she wasn't sexually active or
using IV drugs, yanno?

Does the DT come without thimerosol? Perhaps that is an option in replace
of hte DTaP.

Yes. But I chose not to get that because my daughter has no risk factors for
diptheria or tetanus, I had a seprate vaccine administered for pertussis
(whooping cough) only. I also chose to use the acellular version of the
vaccine (versus the whole cell version). The only reason I chose to get the
pertussis vaccine was because I had whooping cough as a child and it still
causes me problems... fear really moreso than logic.

Also, certain versions of the DTaP contain formaldehyde.


You mean the MMR I would get in the peds office has thimerosol in it?


I don't think they do anymore. My DD was born in 1999 and I believe they did
away with the thimersol in most vaccines in 2001. I would still ask before
having the injection though. Autisim and Mercury posioning have nearly
identical symptoms, a lot of people attribute autism to the thimersol in
vaccines.

How do you get away with this in daycare and also kindergarten?


Depends on where you live. I can look up your state laws if you'd like. In
Tennessee I can take a philosophical or personal exemption. It's a lot of
paperwork and arguing with people. They also tell me that if any illness
breaks out in her school she isn't vaccinated for that I will have to
withdraw her from school until the "epidemic" is over (woo, woo, Like I
would WANT her there if that were the case)


I HIGHLY recommend a book called "What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About
Children's Vaccinations" by Stephanie Cave M.D. F.A.A.F.P. It's extremely
informative without telling you what you should do. I don't base all my
decisions off of one book, but this is a good one.

"Melody" wrote in message
...

"Jill" wrote in message
.net...
Thanks Melody,

What state are you in?

Tennessee, but I have a book with state by state lists of vaccine laws if
you need info.

I agree. I will not get the hepb for my son. He did have the 1st and
reacted to it (dopey, peculiar chirping and lethargic for 2 weeks,
enough
of
that vaccine)


I think it's a stupid one anyway. I'll definitely see that my daughter
gets
one if/when she needs it but at 6 weeks of age she wasn't sexually active
or
using IV drugs, yanno?

And the way you know that she won't be exposed to a blood transfusion is
what?

Does the DT come without thimerosol? Perhaps that is an option in
replace
of hte DTaP.

Yes. But I chose not to get that because my daughter has no risk factors
for
diptheria or tetanus, I had a seprate vaccine administered for pertussis
(whooping cough) only.

So she never gets any scratches or anything?

I also chose to use the acellular version of the
vaccine (versus the whole cell version). The only reason I chose to get
the
pertussis vaccine was because I had whooping cough as a child and it still
causes me problems... fear really moreso than logic.

Also, certain versions of the DTaP contain formaldehyde.


You mean the MMR I would get in the peds office has thimerosol in it?


I don't think they do anymore. My DD was born in 1999 and I believe they
did
away with the thimersol in most vaccines in 2001. I would still ask before
having the injection though. Autisim and Mercury posioning have nearly
identical symptoms, a lot of people attribute autism to the thimersol in
vaccines.

Yet, in studies comparing the rates of autism in kids who had vaccines vs.
kids who didn't, there was no difference in the rates of autism. A lot of
people might attribute autism to mercury poisoning, giving birth at 4:00 am
or kids going out to play when Venus is rising in the sky. But the evidence
to date indicates that autism in not caused at all by mercury.

How do you get away with this in daycare and also kindergarten?


Depends on where you live. I can look up your state laws if you'd like. In
Tennessee I can take a philosophical or personal exemption. It's a lot of
paperwork and arguing with people. They also tell me that if any illness
breaks out in her school she isn't vaccinated for that I will have to
withdraw her from school until the "epidemic" is over (woo, woo, Like I
would WANT her there if that were the case)

I HIGHLY recommend a book called "What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About
Children's Vaccinations" by Stephanie Cave M.D. F.A.A.F.P. It's extremely
informative without telling you what you should do. I don't base all my
decisions off of one book, but this is a good one.

Does the book mention that kids do die from chicken pox, that hepatitis B is
the leading cause of liver cancer, about the effects of menigitis or the
encephalitis that can happen with measles?

The risks of not getting vaccinated clearly ourweight the small risks of
vaccination.

Jeff

"Sarah Vaughan" wrote in message
...
In message et, Jill
writes
I have a toddler just over 3 who is going to get his shots, we will try
and
catch him up. He is behind in that he has not had the pneumonnoccocal
(should just be one shot now), varricella, mmr. He has had 2 polio, 1
hib
and 2 dtp.

1. what shots do you think he should get. I will not do all at once and
will only do 2 at a time.
2. also, if he gets the mmr, will he have to get it in 2 years again as a
booster, or should I wait just before he goes to kindergarten, not sure
what
they will do. I do not want to get him that shot again so soon.

3. also, will him having shots affect the baby? (8 mos) he is still not
vaccinated and we will start but waiting for a cold to go away. (on
antibiotics). I know some of the shots are live and I am concerned that
my
toddler just having shots will make the little one sick if he gets to
close
to baby.

Is the polio vaccine he's getting oral or injectable? The oral polio
vaccine is live and can be passed on to unimmunised people, but the
injectable is a killed virus and can't be. Check this with the doctor's
office.

Unless there is a special order, the polio vaccine will be injectable. The
oral form is only used if there is a special reason, like a trip to an area
with a high rate of polio.

Jeff

All the best,

Sarah

--
"I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become
depressed
and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley

Does anyone know on any cites as to whether it is safer to get children
vaccinated over longer periods of time, and to do separate shots vs. the
combined ones? The vaccination protocols I've seen seem to be giving very
young babies a lot of shots at one visit, and that doesn't seem terribly
safe to me-and since I plan to stay at home anyway, I don't need it all at
one visit to avoid missing work or anything like that. Both my husband and I
have a lot of allergies and drug sensitivities, so I'm rather expecting our
child to also have an easily aggravated immune system.

I remember having less than good reactions to the HepB when I had it-just
generally being sick for several days after each shot, and I was an adult at
the time. The idea of exposing a baby to that for a virus which is
transmitted solely through body fluids (and is screened for in donated
blood) seems silly until they're old enough to be exposed to other children.
I could see doing it if your baby was going to be in daycare (the reason I
had to have it was because I was teaching early childhood), but would it
really hurt to wait until the child is entering school? And would it be
better for the immune system to do so?

I definitely will be asking about vaccines not having mercury in them-given
that you're supposed to avoid eating foods which have possible mercury
exposure while pregnant or breastfeeding, it just doesn't make sense to
inject your child with it. Even if autism isn't caused by mercury, mercury
poisoning is not a good thing either, and a baby has such a small body
weight that it wouldn't take much to be toxic.

"Jeff" wrote in message
...


And the way you know that she won't be exposed to a blood transfusion is
what?

They screen donated blood for HIV, HepB, and many, many other things.

So she never gets any scratches or anything?

She never gets scratched by things with fecal matter on them, no. Even so,
do you have any idea how rare tetanus is? I spent many years as a glass and
metal artist, have been cut thousands of times and have never had a tetanus
shot. When I start letting my child play with rusy nails covered in horse
poo I might consider her at risk.


Yet, in studies comparing the rates of autism in kids who had vaccines vs.
kids who didn't, there was no difference in the rates of autism. A lot of
people might attribute autism to mercury poisoning, giving birth at 4:00
am
or kids going out to play when Venus is rising in the sky. But the
evidence
to date indicates that autism in not caused at all by mercury.


So why is the goverment paying people for vaccine related injuries
(including autism)? While there's no direct evidence saying that vaccines
can cause autism there's no direct evidence saying that they can't. If
you've ever spent any real time with a severely autistic child I'm sure
you'll understand not wanting to take the risk.

Does the book mention that kids do die from chicken pox, that hepatitis B
is
the leading cause of liver cancer, about the effects of menigitis or the
encephalitis that can happen with measles?

Far, far more kids die in car accidents than from chicken pox, should I keep
her out of the car? Typically (though not always) children who die from
chicken pox already have an underlying illness or a comprimised immune
system. The chicken pox vaccine is not a guarantee that your child won't get
chicken pox later in life when it's several times more likely to do serious
damage.

A small child is not at risk for HepB unless it's passed on from the mother
at birth. Why should they be vaccinated for it when they're a few days old?
Why not wait until they're at risk?

My daughter had the MMR, thimersol free, before starting preschool (when she
became at risk to contract it). Instead of subjecting her to 3 doses of this
vaccine we will have her tested (saliva) to see if she is still immune
before starting kindergarten.


The risks of not getting vaccinated clearly ourweight the small risks of
vaccination.

In your opinion. Not in mine.