| Hi-risk caseworkers w CPS. Who are they?

On 05 Aug 2004 13:23:11 GMT, (Fern5827) wrote:

....and attempt to clean up Its terminology...but still missing the
point......

and still fails to post to the more relevant ng. I wonder why The
Plant wouldn't want to draw attention to this silly diatribe in a ng
dedicated to child protection issues?

Subject: High risk caseworkers- Who are they?
From: (Fern5827)
Date: 8/2/2004 10:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Richard Gelles identified the characteristics which made for BETTER
social
workers. Richard Gelles is the premier researcher in the field of
social work
and CPS in the US.

Conversely, here are the traits of those whom the public should look
long and
hard at:

1. Not have an earned MSW degree or licensure. IOW, does the
caseworker who
may have visited your home, either not have a degree, is she
exploring career
alternatives (Casework is mostly an entry level job,). Is she from a
temp
agency?
Perhaps a college student? Many second career retreads?

And you have neither. And why does a caseworker need a degree?

"Temp agency?" Yah gotta be kidding. Where in the US does CPS employ
people from a temp agency to do casework and homevisit protective
service complaint calls?

Many caseworkers, like professionals in all fields, are required to
maintain professional development by going back to school. And many
with a batchelor's degree are in 'college' graduate studies. So much
for education.

What is a second career retread? Someone that changed careers? How
does that effect the quality of work adversely? Later in this
nonsensical blather you seem to be asking they have more than one kind
of job experience.

You are simply setting up families that might have contact with CPS to
be suspicious in areas of no consequence.

Trying to divert them from what they SHOULD actually be doing in such
circumstances.

2. Does the caseworker NOT have children himself?

Most do. Those that do not were children themselves who grew up in a
family, thus getting a lot of first hand experience of what good and
bad parenting might be.

ON the other hand I don't require a surgeon to have undergone surgery
to assess his or her abilities as good or bad. I tend to look at
outcomes.

Does the cw think that a
bruise is rare in a child?

Silly. No adult thinks that. Hell, even children know better.

Was the cw an only child or the baby in the family
himself?

Totally useless pap.

Recent research confirms the fact that children raised with other
sibs has a better social skill set than the *lonely onlies.*

Cite the studies, and tell us how "a better social skill set" makes
for better casework. In fact people with good social skills, as in the
so-called social graces, are often NOT good investigators. Niceness is
a handicap in enforcement work.

3. Is the cw a rookie?

Which caseworker of long and ample experience was not a rookie at the
start of their career? Please provide the means to become experienced
while bypassing the rookie level.

Is this the cw's FIRST JOB?

What other jobs would you say a caseworker must have had, and how many
of them to be a more effective caseworker? And why later do you ask
that they have had other jobs for experience?

Would anyone else hire
this cw?

Let me see now. You don't want second career retreads but you want
them to be hirable, and experienced in other jobs. Interesting.

Have I mentioned you are "losin' it?"

What skills does the cw have that would make her valuable in
industry?

Which skills would you say he or she must have to be valuable to
industry that make him or her do better casework.

Answer: probably none,

Assumption. Industry generally does not demand of their workers what
is commonly demanded of caseworkers:

The ability to juggle 25 to 50 projects at once is NOT usually a job
requirement. Nor are industrial workers expected to show up in court
on a regular basis. Nor are industrial workers asked to go into the
dangerous situations that some caseworkers are.

but HEY!, the essence of our economy is JOBS
CREATION.

Which means nothing, since the essence of all "economy" is based on
labor, either to produce a product, or aquire the raw materials for
production.

Hence, "jobs creation" is necessary or NOTHING would get done at all.
And the payscale in child protection work isn't very good.

Has the cw ever worked in industry where often times, you must meet
goals everyday.

How can they not be second career retreads if they have worked in
other jobs?

But to answer you question: Yep. Case work.

And often caseworkers have more than one boss. Not only must they
conform to the job description as interpreted by their supervisor and
manager, but they must do as the judge tells them, even risking
contempt charges of they refuse the latter.

How many industrial workers are in a similar position?

It is common for caseworkers to have 20 to 30 waiting phone messages
to respond to each day when they arrive at work, and continue to take
more calls all day.

They must close cases, open cases, update ongoing cases, do interviews
of children and foster parents, and of their parent clients. Along
with this they must attend trainings, write case summaries when a
child is moving to waiting for adoption, review inquiries from
adoption workers about families interested in those children that are
becoming free for adoption, and show up at CPR hearings prepared to
answer questions from a panel of citizens about the progress of the
case in question (and remember they can have 40 or so of them.).

The list goes on. Their are two main reasons for turnover in child
protection casework. Exhaustion, and disgust with the things they are
asked to see and deal with that hurt children.

Industry, the private sector, or other government work is far easier
than casework. Most pays better as well for the same levels of
training and experience.

4. Has the caseworker attained the relative wisdom of an age over 25?

There are extremely few caseworkers under 25. And age, as you prove,
has little to do with wisdom. I've met 19 year olds that are far wiser
than you...many times.

Or is
the cw fresh from partying in college, drinking and drugging?

The same could be asked for any profession. Why would you think they
would be drinking and drugging? That isn't the only thing being done
in college and most college kids DON'T drink and drug. That's myth,
media driven.

I presume you did, if you even went.

How did the cw
arrive at cw as his life's mission?

Usually out of the belief they can make a difference, just as many
other professions in human services. They often do make a difference
in some lives, but they find that the trends of child abuse and
neglect aren't impacted sufficiently for them to see much of it. So
they learn to keep their focus on the children and families in their
caseload and help them.

Is this founded on a lifetime of service,
but merely the only game in town as far as hiring?

People change careers as a common thing in our country. Is there any
reason why someone can't do a perfectly good job knowing they too will
probably change jobs one day?

Consider these attributes in the make-up of the person who is
empowered

Some have nothing to do with the quality of their work, character, or
outcomes. You are diverting and misleading people, yet
again....misdirecting their focus on things they should be thinking
about if they encounter CPS.

to
deprive you of an essential liberty interest---as phrased in writings
of the US
Supreme Court.

Please cite and quote. You seem to be terribly misinformed on this
issue. You seem to forget that all citizens have equal rights....hence
children have the same rights as the parent.....against assault, and
negligence resulting in injury.

Realistically, what's going on?

Oh...I'd say you are attempting to attack caseworkers with lies and
innuendo. Next question.

What life experiences does the cw bring to
casework?

Apparently considerably more than you most of the time.

If you've ever scanned a sw textbook, you have seem some real
dumbing down of content.

So now you want them to have a sw degree but you don't think the text
books are sufficient. Interesting.

Could you be more obvious?

Content to take reports and ride around in cars,

Please point out where caseworkers only jobs are to take reports and
ride around in cars?

Those that do protective services work do ride in cars to get to the
home of the family, and they certainly do "take reports" as in
interviewing and writing them up, but they are not very content, last
I heard. It's the most ghastly job in CPS, and few really want to do
it.

They also get to show up in court. They also get to do as follows:

They get to see the deplorable conditions, filth, injuries, frightened
little children, nutritionally neglected, medically neglected,
psychologically and emotionally neglected and disabled, and parents
that do these injuries claiming they aren't responsible, and then the
worker knows that there are those such as you, and others in this ng,
that minimize, and deny the responsibility.

caseworkers provide little value added to their *interventions.*

You don't even know what caseworkers do, as you've just amply
demonstrated. If abuse is stopped by their "interventions" then I'd
say there was "value added."

Granted, they are JOBS. However, why not have universal Preschool
for at risk
child, which middle-class children receive as given.

Apparently you are unaware of Headstart?

And you are now addressing an issue that is not the perview of
caseworkers. They aren't hired to do preschool, as I recall. We have
other programs for that.

Instead, we are content
to let poor children languish,

Yep. That's the US for you. How does attacking caseworkers fix that
problem?

with only minimal services provided.

Apparently you are not aware of the many programs for children in this
country, privately and publically funded and managed. And attempts by
many to further services to children, such as those working to get
more stringent laws passed to protect them from negligent, abusive
parents.

The search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...l+educational+

Produced

Results 1 - 10 of about 674

And that is certainly NOT the whole field of child and family advocacy
and support.

In fact CPS does do support for children...and your buddy calls those
that provide that support, 'jackboots.'

Many children come into state custody having never had a health
evaluation. Some have never even seen a doctor at all. Many are
developmentally delayed and need services from "jackboots" to catch up
with their developmental needs. Many have been sexually abused and
need therapeutic services of various kinds.

Many have health issues that required rehabilitative inteventions the
state provides and CPS tracks.

You folks are nothing if not inconsistent, and obvious.

Kane


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