Catholic hospitals and c-section rates

"Karen" wrote in message
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There are many Catholic hospitals that are not 'this Catholic' though
and many which were Catholic have been bought by private organizations
and may still retain the name St. ***** but have absolutely no
affiliation with or catholicity left in their administration.

St. Mary's definitly is. Before both of my D&C's a priest came to counsel me
and gave me a blessing and we said a prayer. Personally, being Catholic, I
find it comforting. (DH wasn't too sure though, he thought it seemed more
like last rites!
--
JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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JennP wrote:

It didn't make sense to me that the same doctors would have
higher c-section rates at St. Mary's than Waterbury, which led me to believe
that she was blowing smoke.

I would think that both hospital policy and nursing care during
labor affect c-section rates as much or more than the doctor.

Jen
edd 12/20/03 - twin boys!

"JennP" wrote in message news:m3Lub.247218$Tr4.755409@attbi_s03...
"Karen" wrote in message
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On a regional note the Catholic hospital in this area has one of the
lower C-section rates in the state. The large university hospital has
the lowest and the hospitals in the VERY affluent areas have the
highest.

Interesting.

I'll have to dig up the newspaper that published the stats a few years
ago. I scanned it and think it's still in this hard drive somewhere. I
am positive the numbers have risen since this was prior to the VBAC
paranoia.

Jenn knows which hospitals I am referring too:-)

Actually, being in Hartford County I'm not entire sure, but I'm pretty sure
you are talking about hospitals in Fairfield County, right?

Stamford. Greenwich etc......

Is St Mary's still a Catholic hospital?

Yes. Although, as you know most of the doctors have privledges at Waterbury
hospital also.

That's SOP. Most docs that go to St V's also go to Bridgeport.

It didn't make sense to me that the same doctors would have
higher c-section rates at St. Mary's than Waterbury, which led me to believe
that she was blowing smoke.

Oh, that and she also told me that everyone she "knows" who has had Dr.
Albini at St. Mary's has had a c-section. (supposedly five people) We both
know better.

I have a hard time seeing that as plausible.

Sure he does some c-sections, but I'd find it really hard to
believe that every single person she knows sees *him* never mind end up with
a c-section with him. That comment alone made me doubt her "fact"

Karen

"Jen in South Florida" wrote in message
news:RjLub.7975 I would think that both hospital policy and nursing care
during
labor affect c-section rates as much or more than the doctor.

True.
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JennP.

mom to Matthew 10/11/00
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"Fia" wrote

Actually, RC doctrine doesn't say anything like that, but thanks for
spreading misconceptions.


I'll tell that to the priests and bishops who think that they run this
country still. The vast majority of hospitals here are directly or
indirectly run by RC organisations and that is the premise that they appear
to work under.

If you're interested in how church teachings affect health care at
Catholic hospitals, read the actual guidelines at
http://www.nccbuscc.org/bishops/directives.htm

Part Four is relevant.


Nothing in that contradicts what I said. Item 47 goes someway in that it
states that treatment for direct purpose of saving the mother's life may be
permitted even if it indirectly results in the death of the foetus.
However, it is generally interpreted to mean a last-ditch attempt at saving
the mother.

I live in Ireland - I've listened to and read the comments of many
theologians on this topic. If I'm interpreting it wrongly, then so are
they.

Jean
--
HOLLY: Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodness, full of
vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type
of milk, dog's milk.
LISTER: Why?
HOLLY: No bugger'll drink it. Plus the advantage of dog's milk is when
it goes off it takes exactly the same as when it's fresh.
LISTER: Why didn't you tell me, Holly?!
HOLLY: What, and spoil your tea?
(Red Dwarf: Series 2, Episode 1)

LOL! You aren't so far off. Before my D&C's a priest did come in and give
me
a blessing!
--
JennP.


Well the hospital Chaplain visited me during each hospital stay with the
kids at each Navy hospital. I'm not religious *at all* but I thought that
was kinda neat

"Anne Rogers" wrote
which brings up an issue that has been long stewing in my mind about
ectopic pregnancies, I'm strongly against abortion and as I understand it,
when and ectopic pregnancy is diagnosed the foetus is usually still alive,
I'm not sure what I would do and obviously should it happen is not the
time to be deciding!


Based on those directives, the policy surrounding an ectopic pregnancy here
is that the tube is always removed. Otherwise it's classified as a "direct
abortion" which is illegal here.

Jean
--
HOLLY: Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodness, full of
vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type
of milk, dog's milk.
LISTER: Why?
HOLLY: No bugger'll drink it. Plus the advantage of dog's milk is when
it goes off it takes exactly the same as when it's fresh.
LISTER: Why didn't you tell me, Holly?!
HOLLY: What, and spoil your tea?
(Red Dwarf: Series 2, Episode 1)

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:19:42 +1300, "Taniwha grrrl"
wrote:

What the heck is a Catholic hospital? I'm having visions of
patients having to say the Rosary before surgery or
something.

A hospital ran by the Catholic church. Some have nuns who are your
nurses.

The best hospital in my area of Texas (when I lived there) was the
local Catholic hospital. They had a chapel on the ground floor. It
looked like a mini-version of a Catholic church. There was a priest
on duty when I went in, and he talked to me about the person I was
there to see. No pressure from the priest, and it did help. My
grandfather had a nun as a nurse. It also provided top notch medical
care.

--
Daye
Momma to Jayan
"Boy" EDD 11 Jan 2004
See Jayan: http://jayan.topcities.com/

"Taniwha grrrl" wrote in message ...
JennP wrote:
Last night, a friend of mine told me that Catholic
hospitals have the
highest c-section rates.

What the heck is a Catholic hospital? I'm having visions of
patients having to say the Rosary before surgery or
something.

I forgot to add that Catholicism isn't the only religion involved in
healthcare. Baptist, Jewish, Lutheran, Methodist, Seventh Day
Adventist and others are all represented in the US healthcare system.
However, it is very hospital to hospital on how evident any
affiliation is beyond the name on the side of hospital.

Karen

On 19 Nov 2003 11:32:26 -0800, (Karen) wrote:

"Taniwha grrrl" wrote in message ...
JennP wrote:
Last night, a friend of mine told me that Catholic
hospitals have the
highest c-section rates.

What the heck is a Catholic hospital? I'm having visions of
patients having to say the Rosary before surgery or
something.

I forgot to add that Catholicism isn't the only religion involved in
healthcare. Baptist, Jewish, Lutheran, Methodist, Seventh Day
Adventist and others are all represented in the US healthcare system.
However, it is very hospital to hospital on how evident any
affiliation is beyond the name on the side of hospital.

Karen


What is the ratio though. Is the religiously connected hospitals in
minority or majority or what`?



/Erika

The first ten years of your life you try to be just like your parents.
Then for then years you try to be as little as your parents as possible.
Then you gradually change in to them.