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  #11  
Old February 2nd 06, 04:23 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Phil #3" wrote in message k.net...

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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not point to what was first being alleged,''
prosecutor Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of her children so brutally that they sought
refuge in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without being charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate, Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he) might be, how much support they (he) are or
are not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside,
and others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen. I've tried to show that their
unfounded accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Phil #3


She's doing somethig better than a father working two jobs to pay child support... how, exactly?


Who said she did anything better than anyone else? Certainly not me.

If you really think this single mother working two jobs is fully and solely supporting 14, soon to be 15, children,
can I interest you in some oceanfront property in Nebraska?


Try reading the article. She doesn't have 14 children, and she's not pregnant.


http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht...FXiQ2FJQ25FiAc
"A woman who was arrested after police found three of her 14 children..."
Ok, so she didn't have 14 children, she had 14 children. I got it now.
(Is that some form of feminstimath?)
Phil #3


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

Parker said the inaccuracies included the number of children she has (11, not 14), which of her children were found in
the so-called "safe house" and that she is pregnant, which she denies.






  #12  
Old February 2nd 06, 04:39 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Moon Shyne" wrote
.................................................. .................................................
you appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when you
have no facts to support them.

==
I thought that was the purpose of usenet.
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  #13  
Old February 2nd 06, 05:30 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message

nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message

...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not

point
to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor
Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message

...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of

her
children so brutally that they sought refuge
in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without being

charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate,

Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he)

might be, how much support they (he) are or are
not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on

occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and
others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen.

I've tried to show that their unfounded
accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?


Unfortunately, the facts are being ignored that the six oldest children

had
already been removed from the mother's home and placed in the Child

WELFARE
System because of previous charges of abuse and neglect.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp
"Parker said she was told by county prosecutors that all of her children

were to be returned to her as soon as
possible."


As the result of the most recent events the other 8 children were also
removed from her care and placed in the Child WELFARE System.


Try reading the article, she doesn't have 14 children.


I'd read the article if it didn't require me to give your source my email
address, my home address, and other personal information just to read it.
Surely you know you posted a source most people would ignore for privacy
reasons.


These
children were removed from her care because they had fresh bruises and

scars
from abuse on their bodies. The mother was let out of jail, but the
investigation is continuing and a decision about charges will be made

later.

How can the mother be supporting these children if they are in the child
welfare system? Do children in the Wisconsin welfare system not receive
welfare money to support them? If the children are not being abused,

why
are the children being removed?


I can't answer those questions, because the information isn't available.

The difference between you and I, is that you
appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when you

have no facts to support them.

When I read in other news sources the children were in the child welfare
system I understand the word's meanings and make the connection the mother
was in the welfare system too. How difficult is that?


  #14  
Old February 2nd 06, 11:30 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not

point
to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor
Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of

her
children so brutally that they sought refuge
in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without being
charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate,
Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he)
might be, how much support they (he) are or are
not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on
occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and
others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen.
I've tried to show that their unfounded
accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Unfortunately, the facts are being ignored that the six oldest children

had
already been removed from the mother's home and placed in the Child

WELFARE
System because of previous charges of abuse and neglect.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp
"Parker said she was told by county prosecutors that all of her children

were to be returned to her as soon as
possible."


As the result of the most recent events the other 8 children were also
removed from her care and placed in the Child WELFARE System.


Try reading the article, she doesn't have 14 children.


I'd read the article if it didn't require me to give your source my email
address, my home address, and other personal information just to read it.
Surely you know you posted a source most people would ignore for privacy
reasons.


Um, actually I posted a source because it was a source. If you didn't read it, where did you get the fodder for your
accusations?




These
children were removed from her care because they had fresh bruises and

scars
from abuse on their bodies. The mother was let out of jail, but the
investigation is continuing and a decision about charges will be made

later.

How can the mother be supporting these children if they are in the child
welfare system? Do children in the Wisconsin welfare system not receive
welfare money to support them? If the children are not being abused,

why
are the children being removed?


I can't answer those questions, because the information isn't available.

The difference between you and I, is that you
appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when you

have no facts to support them.

When I read in other news sources the children were in the child welfare
system I understand the word's meanings and make the connection the mother
was in the welfare system too. How difficult is that?


This is almost humour - if it was the father who had been unjustly accused, and had his children taken away, you'd be
singing a whole different tune.

It's fine, Bob- it's quite clear that even though you try to set yourself out there as some sort of authority, you're
simply not.





  #15  
Old February 2nd 06, 12:00 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not

point
to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor
Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of

her
children so brutally that they sought refuge
in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without being
charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate,
Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he)
might be, how much support they (he) are or are
not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on
occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and
others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen.
I've tried to show that their unfounded
accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Unfortunately, the facts are being ignored that the six oldest children

had
already been removed from the mother's home and placed in the Child

WELFARE
System because of previous charges of abuse and neglect.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp
"Parker said she was told by county prosecutors that all of her children

were to be returned to her as soon as
possible."


As the result of the most recent events the other 8 children were also
removed from her care and placed in the Child WELFARE System.


Try reading the article, she doesn't have 14 children.


I'd read the article if it didn't require me to give your source my email
address, my home address, and other personal information just to read it.
Surely you know you posted a source most people would ignore for privacy
reasons.


Uh Bob? You're busted again - they never ask for your home address. At most, your zip code.
http://www.nytimes.com/regi

Could you try just a little harder to stick closer to the reality? Specially when it's so verifiable, please?



These
children were removed from her care because they had fresh bruises and

scars
from abuse on their bodies. The mother was let out of jail, but the
investigation is continuing and a decision about charges will be made

later.

How can the mother be supporting these children if they are in the child
welfare system? Do children in the Wisconsin welfare system not receive
welfare money to support them? If the children are not being abused,

why
are the children being removed?


I can't answer those questions, because the information isn't available.

The difference between you and I, is that you
appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when you

have no facts to support them.

When I read in other news sources the children were in the child welfare
system I understand the word's meanings and make the connection the mother
was in the welfare system too. How difficult is that?




  #16  
Old February 2nd 06, 02:02 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default Update on Mother with 14 children


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
k.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not
point to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor Bob Donohoo
said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of
her children so brutally that they sought refuge in an abandoned
home was released from jail Tuesday without being charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate,
Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday evening, hours after her
release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he)
might be, how much support they (he) are or are not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on
occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and others, tried to
slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen. I've tried to
show that their unfounded accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Phil #3


She's doing somethig better than a father working two jobs to pay child
support... how, exactly?

Who said she did anything better than anyone else? Certainly not me.

If you really think this single mother working two jobs is fully and
solely supporting 14, soon to be 15, children, can I interest you in
some oceanfront property in Nebraska?

Try reading the article. She doesn't have 14 children, and she's not
pregnant.


http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht...FXiQ2FJQ25FiAc
"A woman who was arrested after police found three of her 14 children..."
Ok, so she didn't have 14 children, she had 14 children. I got it now.
(Is that some form of feminstimath?)
Phil #3


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

Parker said the inaccuracies included the number of children she has (11,
not 14), which of her children were found in the so-called "safe house"
and that she is pregnant, which she denies.



Why are you defending this woman?
Phil #3


  #17  
Old February 2nd 06, 03:06 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:8afEf.2826$ap3.172@trndny03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote
.................................................. ................................................
you appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when
you have no facts to support them.

==
I thought that was the purpose of usenet.
==


lol..... what I wonder about is why anyone is arguing about the number of
kids.... as though 11 or 14 really matters.


  #18  
Old February 2nd 06, 05:04 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default Update on Mother with 14 children


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not

point
to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor
Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three

of
her
children so brutally that they sought refuge
in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without

being
charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly

inaccurate,
Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they

(he)
might be, how much support they (he) are or are
not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on
occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and
others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare

queen.
I've tried to show that their unfounded
accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Unfortunately, the facts are being ignored that the six oldest

children
had
already been removed from the mother's home and placed in the Child

WELFARE
System because of previous charges of abuse and neglect.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp
"Parker said she was told by county prosecutors that all of her

children
were to be returned to her as soon as
possible."


As the result of the most recent events the other 8 children were

also
removed from her care and placed in the Child WELFARE System.

Try reading the article, she doesn't have 14 children.


I'd read the article if it didn't require me to give your source my

email
address, my home address, and other personal information just to read

it.
Surely you know you posted a source most people would ignore for privacy
reasons.


Um, actually I posted a source because it was a source.


And here is what your source said:

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If you didn't read it, where did you get the fodder for your
accusations?




These
children were removed from her care because they had fresh bruises

and
scars
from abuse on their bodies. The mother was let out of jail, but the
investigation is continuing and a decision about charges will be made

later.

How can the mother be supporting these children if they are in the

child
welfare system? Do children in the Wisconsin welfare system not

receive
welfare money to support them? If the children are not being abused,

why
are the children being removed?

I can't answer those questions, because the information isn't

available.
The difference between you and I, is that you
appear more than happy, willing and eager to make accusations, when you

have no facts to support them.

When I read in other news sources the children were in the child welfare
system I understand the word's meanings and make the connection the

mother
was in the welfare system too. How difficult is that?


This is almost humour - if it was the father who had been unjustly

accused, and had his children taken away, you'd be
singing a whole different tune.

It's fine, Bob- it's quite clear that even though you try to set yourself

out there as some sort of authority, you're
simply not.







  #19  
Old February 2nd 06, 06:21 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message

ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Phil #3" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not

point
to what was first being alleged,'' prosecutor
Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three

of
her
children so brutally that they sought refuge
in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without

being
charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly

inaccurate,
Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they

(he)
might be, how much support they (he) are or are
not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on
occasion, to support her family. Bob Whiteside, and
others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare

queen.
I've tried to show that their unfounded
accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Unfortunately, the facts are being ignored that the six oldest

children
had
already been removed from the mother's home and placed in the Child

WELFARE
System because of previous charges of abuse and neglect.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp
"Parker said she was told by county prosecutors that all of her

children
were to be returned to her as soon as
possible."


As the result of the most recent events the other 8 children were

also
removed from her care and placed in the Child WELFARE System.

Try reading the article, she doesn't have 14 children.


I'd read the article if it didn't require me to give your source my

email
address, my home address, and other personal information just to read

it.
Surely you know you posted a source most people would ignore for privacy
reasons.


Um, actually I posted a source because it was a source. If you didn't

read it, where did you get the fodder for your
accusations?


Google news search using mother of 14. Got lots of free articles and much
more detailed info than your source.


  #20  
Old February 3rd 06, 12:17 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"Phil #3" wrote in message ink.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...

"Phil #3" wrote in message k.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...

"Phil #3" wrote in message .net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...

"Phil #3" wrote in message nk.net...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...en-Beaten.html

''We looked at all the facts, and the facts at this point do not point to what was first being alleged,''
prosecutor Bob Donohoo said."


"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

"A mother arrested last week on allegations that she beat three of her children so brutally that they sought
refuge in an abandoned home was released from jail Tuesday without being charged.

Milwaukee police accounts of the situation were grossly inaccurate, Nina Parker said in an interview Tuesday
evening, hours after her release."



Still no word about the father as in how many, who or where they (he) might be, how much support they (he) are
or are not paying?

Why does that matter? This is a woman who worked double shifts on occasion, to support her family. Bob
Whiteside, and others, tried to slam this woman as some sort of abusive welfare queen. I've tried to show that
their unfounded accusations are precisely that - unfounded.

Perhaps the father simply abandoned, who knows?

Phil #3


She's doing somethig better than a father working two jobs to pay child support... how, exactly?

Who said she did anything better than anyone else? Certainly not me.

If you really think this single mother working two jobs is fully and solely supporting 14, soon to be 15,
children, can I interest you in some oceanfront property in Nebraska?

Try reading the article. She doesn't have 14 children, and she's not pregnant.


http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=ht...FXiQ2FJQ25FiAc
"A woman who was arrested after police found three of her 14 children..."
Ok, so she didn't have 14 children, she had 14 children. I got it now.
(Is that some form of feminstimath?)
Phil #3


http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/389054.asp

Parker said the inaccuracies included the number of children she has (11, not 14), which of her children were found
in the so-called "safe house" and that she is pregnant, which she denies.



Why are you defending this woman?


I'm not defending the woman, per se - I'm defending people at least sticking to the truth.

I can tell the difference - can you?

Phil #3




 




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