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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for
pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only nursing my three year old twice a day. She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can reassure me/offer any advice or info? thanks! -- Amy |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
On Jun 15, 3:47 pm, "Mum of Two" wrote:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only nursing my three year old twice a day. She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can reassure me/offer any advice or info? thanks! Lactmed doesn't make morphine sound too bad for an older nursling. It lists it: AAP Category: Usually compatible with breastfeeding You look it up at: http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search I am not a medical professional though. --Betsy |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
Mum of Two skrev:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only nursing my three year old twice a day. She hasn't fed since before the dose yesterday evening, but I'm considering feeding her around lunch/evening. Any two-handed posters here who can reassure me/offer any advice or info? thanks! I had a morphine something after my c-sec at the hospital - in a very nursing friendly hosp, that is. No-one said anything about not nursing. On the other hand - it's nearly 15 years ago. Tine, Denmark |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
Mum of Two wrote:
Hi all! I broke my hand yesterday and took a one-off dose of morphine for pain as I'm allergic to codeine. Also ibuprofen, which doesn't concern me as Hales considers it L1. They told me not to breastfeed for TWO DAYS which seems excessively cautious from what I've read. That and the fact I'm only nursing my three year old twice a day. Good grief, that sounds OTT. In the first place, given that opiate derivatives are routinely given to women in labour, I can't see why there should be an issue with breastfeeding a three-year-old after taking a dose. In the second place, morphine can be given directly to children if there's a therapeutic need for it, so it would be improbable that your milk would contain a high enough dose to be dangerous. In the third place, if Sevredol was the drug you had, that's short-acting anyway and should have mostly left your system by now. The 2004 copy of the British National Formulary which is the best official source I've got handy says that therapeutic doses are OK. I would just go ahead and nurse her. All the best, Sarah -- http://www.goodenoughmummy.typepad.com "That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be" - P. C. Hodgell |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
absolute rubbish, morphine isn't universally used post c-section, but
fairly frequently, no one tells them not to breastfeed! I'm pretty sure I looked it up in Hales in the dim and distant past, the first risk was sedation in the baby, which is not necessarily a problem as long as it's temporary, the risk if it's taken regularly would be addiction, but that's a pretty low risk in people taking morphine for genuine pain, and through the milk they get less, I don't know if there have been any reported cases of baby having an addiction through theraputic use when breastfeeding (there definitely is when used for the same reasons in pregnancy, but it's a different transfer method). Anne |
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"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
... absolute rubbish, morphine isn't universally used post c-section, but fairly frequently, no one tells them not to breastfeed! I'm pretty sure I looked it up in Hales in the dim and distant past, the first risk was sedation in the baby, which is not necessarily a problem as long as it's temporary, the risk if it's taken regularly would be addiction, but that's a pretty low risk in people taking morphine for genuine pain, and through the milk they get less, I don't know if there have been any reported cases of baby having an addiction through theraputic use when breastfeeding (there definitely is when used for the same reasons in pregnancy, but it's a different transfer method). Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect. Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate things. Amy |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect. Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate things. yikes you are having a tough time I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine that does that, even quite close varients are fine. Anne |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
"Anne Rogers" wrote in message
... Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect. Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate things. yikes you are having a tough time I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine that does that, even quite close varients are fine. It was only one dose, so it should be long gone by now, though I have had some -strange- dreams. We have a lot of Aspergers in our family, and I can see traits coming through in DD, though whether they're part of her nature or accquired it's hard to say. She's very bright, high energy, extremely pedantic and quick to melt down. It seems to be getting harder as she gets older, plus she has a lot going on at the moment - father and paternal grandparents both moving away to different places. I'm finding it impossible with full time study. It hasn't been an easy year for either of us. Amy |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
Mum of Two skrev:
"Anne Rogers" wrote in message ... Thanks everyone! I've gone ahead and nursed her with no apparent effect. Actually, if anything she was up earlier! Hitting my cast, had lost and stood on my glasses (rendering me blind as well as without a right hand) and poured water all over the remaining cat biscuits (which as a solo mum and student, will have to cut ino HER party fund I've told her). Now I have to figure out how to change a dirty nappy using only my left hand as she's deliberately soiling. Joys, huh? We're having issues at the moment if you can't tell, another reason why I didn't want to miss feeds to complicate things. yikes you are having a tough time I don't know what the percentages are but for some people morphine does keep them awake, probably still woozy and what not, but not actually asleep, which is something you need after surgery, but you need pain relief too, so it's a tough one, thankfully for me, it's only morphine that does that, even quite close varients are fine. It was only one dose, so it should be long gone by now, though I have had some -strange- dreams. We have a lot of Aspergers in our family, and I can see traits coming through in DD, though whether they're part of her nature or accquired it's hard to say. She's very bright, high energy, extremely pedantic and quick to melt down. It seems to be getting harder as she gets older, plus she has a lot going on at the moment - father and paternal grandparents both moving away to different places. I'm finding it impossible with full time study. It hasn't been an easy year for either of us. Amy High IQ is a cross and a blessing. Some confuse Aspergers with high IQ - especially in Denmark where i live. I have nerdy high IQ kids myself. You get a lot of work, but you also get a lot of fun and pleasures. It does get easier - especially when they reach the point where you can explain to them that they are a bit different and that they have to have tolerance towards the less gifted. But to see them light up when they understand something complex at a very early age - that's really fun. My daughter was fascinated by primes at the age of five. I wonder how my own mom felt...... Tine, Denmark |
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Sevredol / morphine sulphate
"Workingmom" wrote in message It does get easier - especially when they reach the point where you can explain to them that they are a bit different and that they have to have tolerance towards the less gifted. (rolls eyes) I think it should be the other way around. Gifted people are extremely hard to be around and most of the time, not very socially inept. -- Sue |
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