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Old May 20th 05, 05:59 AM
forthedefense
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Derek and Alex King are innocent. The evidence proves their innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father. Now the younger
boy, Alex, jailed since he was 12, may go to adult prison, where he
will most certainly die. At 16, boys can be sent to adult prison in
Florida. It's happened many times.

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http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/...53503BEE.shtml

Alex King charged with escape
15???year???old to be tried as an adult, faces additional 15???year
sentence
April 29, 2005
Amber Bollman

@PensacolaNewsJournal.com

Alex King again is facing criminal charges, this time for attempting to
escape the juvenile detention facility where he is serving a seven-year
sentence for the November 2001 beating death of his father.

King, 15, is being held at the Okeechobee Juvenile Offender Corrections
Center, a high-risk facility in South Florida for young male inmates.

He and another young man were arrested on the morning of March 5, after
corrections officers allege the pair attempted an overnight escape
through a ceiling. The State Attorney's Office in Pensacola was
informed of the escape charge against King this week.

In a sensational, nationally publicized case, King and his brother,
Derek, now 16, in November 2002 pleaded guilty to third-degree murder
in the killing of their father, Terry King, at their Cantonment home.

Derek King confessed to hitting his father in the head with an aluminum
baseball bat. Alex King told authorities the killing was his idea. The
pair then set fire to the home and fled.

Sgt. Billy Markham, an Okeechobee County Sheriff's Office spokesman,
said Alex King and inmate Justin Huggins, 18, climbed up into the
ceiling of a classroom and attempted to find a way out to the roof.

"They didn't get very far," he said.

The boys allegedly sneaked into the classroom while corrections
officers made evening rounds, checking inmates' cells. The pair "made
their beds with blankets under the covers to make it appear that they
were actually in bed," according to King's arrest report.

Officers found the boys in the classroom the following morning.

The boys told the officers another officer had "let them out" of their
cells the night before, and "they were on the telephone all night."

The State Attorney's Office in Florida's 19th Judicial Circuit is
prosecuting King as an adult, raising the possibility that he could be
sent to an adult prison if convicted of escape. The Florida Department
of Corrections elected to place both King boys in juvenile facilities
for the murder of their father.

King, who would be eligible for release on the murder charge in 2008,
will appear in court on the escape charge in May.

Escape, even if unsuccessful, is punishable by up to 15 years in
prison. The sentence must be served consecutive to the sentence that
the inmate already is serving.
??The Pensacola News Journal
April 29, 2005
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I've been talking to a reporter. I've been trying to convince him to
write a story about Alex and the alleged escape attempt. He is
collecting information. The more publicity this gets, the better. This
case makes prosecutor David Rimmer and the whole system look terrible.
They don't like bad publicity. What they really want is as few news
stories as possible.

What will help Alex the most is the glare of news stories. Travesties
of justice should be exposed to the light of day. After all, if it
wasn't for all the publicity, Judge Bell wouldn't have thrown out the
jury's 2nd degree murder conviction.

It's best to yell and scream and get news attention on this. David
Rimmer doesn't want publicity on this. The glare of publicity will put
pressure for a just resolution of this charge. The charge should be
dismissed.

Jesse Evans
moderator of:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/derekandalexking/
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Old May 20th 05, 07:15 AM
Dane Metcalfe
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"forthedefense" wrote in message
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Derek and Alex King are innocent. The evidence proves their innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father. Now the younger
boy, Alex, jailed since he was 12, may go to adult prison, where he
will most certainly die. At 16, boys can be sent to adult prison in
Florida. It's happened many times.

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Glaring contradictions:

"The evidence proves their innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father"




In a sensational, nationally publicized case, King and his brother,
Derek, now 16, in November 2002 pleaded guilty to third-degree murder
in the killing of their father, Terry King, at their Cantonment home.

Derek King confessed to hitting his father in the head with an aluminum
baseball bat. Alex King told authorities the killing was his idea. The
pair then set fire to the home and fled.



What will help Alex the most is the glare of news stories. Travesties
of justice should be exposed to the light of day. After all, if it
wasn't for all the publicity, Judge Bell wouldn't have thrown out the
jury's 2nd degree murder conviction.


Huh????

The glare of publicity will put
ressure for a just resolution of this charge. The charge should be
dismissed


And, why is that?


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Old May 20th 05, 02:48 PM
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Derek and Alex King are innocent. The evidence proves their innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father.


In a sensational, nationally publicized case, King and his brother,
Derek, now 16, in November 2002 pleaded guilty to third-degree murder
in the killing of their father, Terry King, at their Cantonment home.


I know nothing about this case, but this seems a bit of a contradiction to
me....
Have the boys recanted their guilt?


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Old May 20th 05, 04:46 PM
Barbara
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jojo wrote:
Derek and Alex King are innocent. The evidence proves their

innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father.


In a sensational, nationally publicized case, King and his brother,
Derek, now 16, in November 2002 pleaded guilty to third-degree

murder
in the killing of their father, Terry King, at their Cantonment

home.

I know nothing about this case, but this seems a bit of a

contradiction to
me....
Have the boys recanted their guilt?


Nope. IIRC, they initially confessed to what amounted to first degree
murder. Then, IIRC, they then recanted, blaming the murder on a
neighbor whom the younger boy (aged 12 at the time) claimed he was
having an affair. The neighbor denied all involvement. The
prosecutors proceeded on separate tracks, prosecuting the Kings and the
neighbor. The neighbor was acquitted, and the Kings were both
convicted of second degree murder. The Court threw out the conviction,
although I don't recall why; I believe it was procedural.
Thereafter,the Kings pled guilty to third degree murder (the older boy
admitting that he killed his father by hitting him in the head with a
baseball bat, then torched the home to hide evidence; and the younger
boy admitting that the whole thing was his idea) in return for reduced
sentences to be served in juvenile facilities.

The interesting thing about this case was the age of the boys (12 and
13 at the time that they killed their father), and the issues that it
raised as to trying and punishing adolescents as if they were adults.
I certainly don't have any answers there. My liberal side recognizes
that these boys are still children; I cannot accept that they are
irredeemable. OTOH, even a 12 year old is old enough to understand
that it is wrong to bash someone in the head with a baseball bat until
his head caves in.

If you have some free time, do a google search on the Kings;
fascinating stuff.

Barbara

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Old May 20th 05, 05:48 PM
Stephanie
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"Barbara" wrote in message
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jojo wrote:
Derek and Alex King are innocent. The evidence proves their

innocence.
Their own jury believed they did not kill their father.


In a sensational, nationally publicized case, King and his brother,
Derek, now 16, in November 2002 pleaded guilty to third-degree

murder
in the killing of their father, Terry King, at their Cantonment

home.

I know nothing about this case, but this seems a bit of a

contradiction to
me....
Have the boys recanted their guilt?


Nope. IIRC, they initially confessed to what amounted to first degree
murder. Then, IIRC, they then recanted, blaming the murder on a
neighbor whom the younger boy (aged 12 at the time) claimed he was
having an affair. The neighbor denied all involvement. The
prosecutors proceeded on separate tracks, prosecuting the Kings and the
neighbor. The neighbor was acquitted, and the Kings were both
convicted of second degree murder. The Court threw out the conviction,
although I don't recall why; I believe it was procedural.
Thereafter,the Kings pled guilty to third degree murder (the older boy
admitting that he killed his father by hitting him in the head with a
baseball bat, then torched the home to hide evidence; and the younger
boy admitting that the whole thing was his idea) in return for reduced
sentences to be served in juvenile facilities.

The interesting thing about this case was the age of the boys (12 and
13 at the time that they killed their father), and the issues that it
raised as to trying and punishing adolescents as if they were adults.
I certainly don't have any answers there. My liberal side recognizes
that these boys are still children; I cannot accept that they are
irredeemable. OTOH, even a 12 year old is old enough to understand
that it is wrong to bash someone in the head with a baseball bat until
his head caves in.


I am conflicted also. But I think even a 40 year old is not "old enough" to
really understand right and wrong if they were not there in his or her
formative years. I know nothing about these boys and their relationship with
their father, so I am not speaking specifically there.

If you have some free time, do a google search on the Kings;
fascinating stuff.

Barbara



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Old May 20th 05, 05:54 PM
Jeff
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"Barbara" wrote in message
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(...)

OTOH, even a 12 year old is old enough to understand
that it is wrong to bash someone in the head with a baseball bat until
his head caves in.


just because a 12-year old understands that it is wrong to bash in a skull
doesn't mean that he understands the consequences of this. This is one
reason why the Supreme Court made it unconstitutional to put someone to
death for a crime committed before that person turns 18.

Jeff

If you have some free time, do a google search on the Kings;
fascinating stuff.

Barbara



 




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