A Parenting & kids forum. ParentingBanter.com

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » ParentingBanter.com forum » misc.kids » Breastfeeding
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Warning About Flu Vaccines



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 21st 09, 09:11 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
john[_5_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 822
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines



Warning About Flu Vaccines

Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.

There are two kinds of influenza vaccines (both regular flu and swine
flu) available this year - one contains Thimerosal (a mercury based
preservative) and the other does not. As a general rule, the
vaccines that come in single dose packages do not contain mercury,
while the multi-dose vials do. However, some clinics pre-fill
syringes from multi-dose vials. Thus, you need to verify that the
syringe was filled by the vaccine's manufacturer and not by anyone
else, if you are offered a flu-shot dose in a syringe.

The amount of mercury in the Thimerosal preserved vaccines is about
25 micrograms. The EPA safe dose (confirmed by the National Academy
of Science in 2001) for exposure to methyl mercury that should not be
exceeded is .1 microgram per kilogram of body weight per day. This
standard is set for "methyl" mercury. Neither FDA nor EPA has set a
"safe" level for "ethyl" mercury, the active ingredient in
Thimerosal, but the FDA considers them equivalent in its risk
evaluation. Although they are similar organic molecules, studies
show that an equivalent dose of "ethyl" mercury can actually deposit
more mercury in the brain. So, if a child receives a shot with 25
micrograms of mercury, the child would have to weigh 550 pounds to
remain within the recommended safe level of exposure. With regard to
injecting these vaccines into pregnant women, we know that some of
the mercury will cross the placental barrier to the fetus. We tell
pregnant women not to eat fish, and yet our government is not warning
them about having mercury injected into their bodies while they are
pregnant. In my opinion, this is inexcusable.

If you receive the swine flu vaccine this year, be sure to keep the
card they give you, and make sure the card lists the manufacturer and
lot number of the vaccine. But if you are injured by the vaccine,
you will not be able to go to the no fault vaccine court that is
available for other vaccine injuries. You will have to apply for
compensation to a special program, from which there is no appeal and
no right to pursue any kind of civil litigation. The industry demand
for complete immunity is yet another reason to doubt government
claims that mercury-containing vaccines are "safe." CDC admitted at
a meeting of the National Vaccine Advisory Committee meeting on
September 15 that none of the safety trials of the H1N1 vaccines
would be completed on either pregnant women or infants prior to
launch of these vaccines, yet they still "believe" them to be safe.

If you try to get a mercury free flu vaccine and are unable to do so
or if this letter has reached you after you already received your flu
shot and you discover the one you received had mercury in it, please
contact the people at CoMeD (The Coalition for Mercury-free Drugs) by
emailing them your story and detailed contact information using the
"Contact Us" link provided on the CoMeD website:
http://www.Mercury-freeDrugs.org

Since our public health officials do not seem concerned about
protecting the pregnant women and children in this country, I am
forced to ask that everyone who gets this message forward it to all
your family and friends.


  #2  
Old September 21st 09, 03:01 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
Peter Parry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 176
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" wrote:

Warning About Flu Vaccines

Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.


Is this the same Shoemaker, a lawyer and business associate of the
Geier's, who threw a hissy fit when details of the vast sums he
collects from (usually unsuccessful) vaccine hearing claims was
published?

The same Shoemaker who set up the "Institute for Chronic Illnesses" as
a tax-exempt private non operating foundation to finance "medical
research" conducted by Geier and son?

The Shoemaker whose attempts to suppress his critics led to a judge
saying:-

"he [Shoemaker] has no right:
(1) to serve a grossly overly broad subpoena intended to harass;
(2) to go on a “fishing trip” for anything to support a new suit for
defamation ...; and
(3) to fail his duties under Rule 45(c)(1). "

"Clifford J. Shoemaker’s action is an abuse of legal process, a waste
of judicial resources and an unnecessary waste of the time and expense
to the purported deponent."

"As a sanction from this court, Clifford J. Shoemaker is ordered to
attend within three months, a continuing legal education program on
ethics..."

Shoemaker probably thinks ethics is an English county to the north
east of London but don't you think there might just be a small
financial motive behind his exhortation to "contact the people at
CoMeD" when one of the "people" is Shoemaker himself and the others
the peripatetic Geiers?

  #3  
Old September 21st 09, 03:40 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
Smarter Than You
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 27
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines


"Peter Parry" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" wrote:

Warning About Flu Vaccines

Clifford Shoemaker, Esq.


Is this the same Shoemaker, a lawyer and business associate of the
Geier's, who threw a hissy fit when details of the vast sums he
collects from (usually unsuccessful) vaccine hearing claims was
published?

The same Shoemaker who set up the "Institute for Chronic Illnesses" as
a tax-exempt private non operating foundation to finance "medical
research" conducted by Geier and son?

The Shoemaker whose attempts to suppress his critics led to a judge
saying:-

"he [Shoemaker] has no right:
(1) to serve a grossly overly broad subpoena intended to harass;
(2) to go on a "fishing trip" for anything to support a new suit for
defamation ...; and
(3) to fail his duties under Rule 45(c)(1). "

"Clifford J. Shoemaker's action is an abuse of legal process, a waste
of judicial resources and an unnecessary waste of the time and expense
to the purported deponent."

"As a sanction from this court, Clifford J. Shoemaker is ordered to
attend within three months, a continuing legal education program on
ethics..."

Shoemaker probably thinks ethics is an English county to the north
east of London but don't you think there might just be a small
financial motive behind his exhortation to "contact the people at
CoMeD" when one of the "people" is Shoemaker himself and the others
the peripatetic Geiers?

Could be, but that does not make the new vacs safe. Peter, PLEASE go and
get your vaccination as soon as you can. Get two if they will give it to
you. Thank you.


  #4  
Old September 21st 09, 05:45 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
john[_5_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 822
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines


"Peter Parry" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" wrote:


a lecture on ethics

bit rich from an Allopath advocate

but it sure distracts from the mercury


  #5  
Old September 21st 09, 07:13 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
Peter Parry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 176
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:45:35 +0100, "john" wrote:


"Peter Parry" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:11:50 +0100, "john" wrote:


a lecture on ethics


You are getting confused. A lecture on ethics (actually a whole
course on the subject) is something the author of your quoted piece
was forced to attend by a court.

For your education it would have been ethical for you (or the author,
but that might be pushing things too far) to have explained :-

1. The "letter" was an advertisement.

2. The author makes a handy living out of furthering a mercury
scare.

3. Much of the "evidence" supporting his claims comes from business
associates.

4. He get paid (very well) even when he fails in court. The claimant
does not get a penny.

5. The company he is promoting, CoMeD, has a business association
with him.

  #6  
Old September 21st 09, 08:53 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
john[_5_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 822
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines


"Peter Parry" wrote in message

3. Much of the "evidence" supporting his claims comes from business
associates.



like all doctors with their claims to the contrary with all 'expert'
witnesses paid by drug companies


  #7  
Old September 21st 09, 10:13 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,sci.med.nursing
Peter Parry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 176
Default Warning About Flu Vaccines

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:53:43 +0100, "john" wrote:


like all doctors with their claims to the contrary with all 'expert'
witnesses paid by drug companies


All of which is in the public record. If the likes of Shoemaker are
as squeaky clean as you seem to think why do they find it necessary to
attempt to hide their commercial interests so assiduously? It makes
it impossible for them to claim the moral high ground. Is avarice
above honesty for them?
  #8  
Old March 3rd 11, 07:23 AM
dain45yl dain45yl is offline
Junior Member
 
First recorded activity by ParentingBanter: Feb 2011
Posts: 7
Default

flu vaccines are neccesary
you have shared best information
  #9  
Old April 10th 11, 11:28 AM
spurmsperm spurmsperm is offline
Banned
 
First recorded activity by ParentingBanter: Apr 2011
Posts: 9
Default

flu vaccines are neccesary
you have shared best information
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Important Repost: Merck Slapped With Warning Letter for Vaccine Operations ... Drugs used for Vaccines Adulterated Ilena Rose Kids Health 0 September 18th 08 06:58 PM
Merck Slapped With Warning Letter for Vaccine Operations ... Drugs used for Vaccines Adulterated Ilena Rose Kids Health 0 May 14th 08 07:48 PM
STUDY: Vaccines adsorbed onto aluminium salts are a more frequent cause of local post-vaccinal reactions than plain vaccines. Ilena Rose Kids Health 5 August 21st 07 10:26 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 ParentingBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.