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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a
child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Phil #3" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 Federal aw allows for voluntary declarations of paternity to be rescinded within 60 days. After 60 days states may allow challenges for fraud, duress, or material mistake of fact. My state extends the challenge period to one year. The reasons behind the one year timeframe are a recognition of the high default rate in paternity proceedings and the "significant numbers of parents who sign joint declarations of paternity because of relationship issues, even knowing the male signatory is not the father." IOW - My state recognizes mothers sign these forms as a way to lie to a man and cover-up their knowledge another man is really the father of the child. In practice if the man who is deceived by the mother cannot figure it out within a year he is hosed for CS for another man's child. Mom can then go live with the bio father and collect CS from the deceived father. |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Bob W" wrote in message m... "Phil #3" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 Federal aw allows for voluntary declarations of paternity to be rescinded within 60 days. After 60 days states may allow challenges for fraud, duress, or material mistake of fact. My state extends the challenge period to one year. The reasons behind the one year timeframe are a recognition of the high default rate in paternity proceedings and the "significant numbers of parents who sign joint declarations of paternity because of relationship issues, even knowing the male signatory is not the father." IOW - My state recognizes mothers sign these forms as a way to lie to a man and cover-up their knowledge another man is really the father of the child. In practice if the man who is deceived by the mother cannot figure it out within a year he is hosed for CS for another man's child. Mom can then go live with the bio father and collect CS from the deceived father. Which begs the question: Can the mother legally "challenge" such declaration and rescind the agreed upon paternity? Clearly, the "even knowing" part is in reference to the man. There is NO way that the government people will ever provide any law that protects innocent men regarding "child support". |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Chris" wrote in message ... "Bob W" wrote in message m... "Phil #3" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 Federal aw allows for voluntary declarations of paternity to be rescinded within 60 days. After 60 days states may allow challenges for fraud, duress, or material mistake of fact. My state extends the challenge period to one year. The reasons behind the one year timeframe are a recognition of the high default rate in paternity proceedings and the "significant numbers of parents who sign joint declarations of paternity because of relationship issues, even knowing the male signatory is not the father." IOW - My state recognizes mothers sign these forms as a way to lie to a man and cover-up their knowledge another man is really the father of the child. In practice if the man who is deceived by the mother cannot figure it out within a year he is hosed for CS for another man's child. Mom can then go live with the bio father and collect CS from the deceived father. Which begs the question: Can the mother legally "challenge" such declaration and rescind the agreed upon paternity? Clearly, the "even knowing" part is in reference to the man. There is NO way that the government people will ever provide any law that protects innocent men regarding "child support". The "even knowing" part is about the mother. Mothers sign the joint declarations "even knowing" the man is not the father. The problem is simple. If the mother decides to rescind the declaration she is admitting lying, fraud, and signing a legally binding declaration yet there is no penalty for her deceit. |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Bob W" wrote in message m... "Phil #3" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 Federal aw allows for voluntary declarations of paternity to be rescinded within 60 days. After 60 days states may allow challenges for fraud, duress, or material mistake of fact. My state extends the challenge period to one year. The reasons behind the one year timeframe are a recognition of the high default rate in paternity proceedings and the "significant numbers of parents who sign joint declarations of paternity because of relationship issues, even knowing the male signatory is not the father." IOW - My state recognizes mothers sign these forms as a way to lie to a man and cover-up their knowledge another man is really the father of the child. In practice if the man who is deceived by the mother cannot figure it out within a year he is hosed for CS for another man's child. Mom can then go live with the bio father and collect CS from the deceived father. Why a crime, in this case fraud, has such a short time limit for appeal is telling. I suspect most men in this type of situation never know "their" children are not biologically related to them. Those who do often find out the truth years, even decades after the fact yet I've never heard of a mother being prosecuted for fraud other than cases where the mother lied to the state to draw some type of public assistance and then only to the extent the state was harmed. Anyone have any data to suggest women who have intentionally perpetuated paternity fraud being subject to criminal charges for it? Phil #3 |
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Paternity Opportunity Program (POP)
"Phil #3" wrote in message
m... "Bob W" wrote in message m... "Phil #3" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Establishing paternity is the process of determining the legal father of a child. When parents are married, paternity is automatically established in most cases. If parents are unmarried, paternity establishment is not automatic and the process should be started by both parents as soon as possible for the benefit of the child. Unmarried parents can establish paternity (legal fatherhood) by signing the voluntary Declaration of Paternity. This can be done in the hospital after the child is born. A Declaration of Paternity may also be signed by parents after they leave the hospital. Unmarried parents who sign the Declaration of Paternity form help their child(ren) gain the same rights and privileges of a child born within a marriage. Some of those rights include: financial support from both parents, access to important family medical records, access to the non-custodial parent's medical benefits, and the emotional benefit of knowing who both parents are." http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Resources...1/Default.aspx The above propoganda is targeted to ignorant men in an effort to sucker them into being legally obligated to hand free money to a woman for many years! The "financial support from both parents" is untrue. This Declaration does absolutely NOTHING to cause a mother to support her children financially. Just curious: what law states that a child has the "right" to know who their father is? Notice that NO benefits are ascribed to the paying man. Thus, if he gets no benefits then whyever would he pay? Any fool that would sign a declaration of paternity has no clue to the ability of some women to lie, cheat and steal. Phil #3 Federal aw allows for voluntary declarations of paternity to be rescinded within 60 days. After 60 days states may allow challenges for fraud, duress, or material mistake of fact. My state extends the challenge period to one year. The reasons behind the one year timeframe are a recognition of the high default rate in paternity proceedings and the "significant numbers of parents who sign joint declarations of paternity because of relationship issues, even knowing the male signatory is not the father." IOW - My state recognizes mothers sign these forms as a way to lie to a man and cover-up their knowledge another man is really the father of the child. In practice if the man who is deceived by the mother cannot figure it out within a year he is hosed for CS for another man's child. Mom can then go live with the bio father and collect CS from the deceived father. Why a crime, in this case fraud, has such a short time limit for appeal is telling. I suspect most men in this type of situation never know "their" children are not biologically related to them. Those who do often find out the truth years, even decades after the fact yet I've never heard of a mother being prosecuted for fraud other than cases where the mother lied to the state to draw some type of public assistance and then only to the extent the state was harmed. Anyone have any data to suggest women who have intentionally perpetuated paternity fraud being subject to criminal charges for it? Phil #3 I'm certain that Pimple-X has something from (wait for it.. wait for it..!) www.NYTimes.com that'll cover it. |
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