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Old October 3rd 06, 12:04 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Chookie
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In article . com,
"cjra" wrote:

I was shocked when I read on another chat board a woman - a young
woman, in her 20s, who says she NIPs herself - stated that it was
inappropriate in church and was offended when a woman did. And what's
more, many people agreed it was the one place where it wasn't
appropriate.


How bizarre. I'm a Sydney Anglican so we don't perceive our church building
as a temple (ie to us it isn't a sacred space; it keeps the rain off). For
those who do see their church as a temple, perhaps it is a bit different, but
still:

(a) the only Person whose opinion really counts was breastfed Himself;
(b) members of the congregation should be concentrating on the service, not
gawking at the people around them -- especially if they are watching someone
closely enough to *tell* that breastfeeding is going on!
(c) breastfeeding a baby is, as a rule, a quiet and unobtrusive activity --
much less disruptive than not-feeding the baby (!) or even removing yourself
and bubs from the service.

It's never occurred to me that it wasn't appropriate!

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Old October 3rd 06, 12:14 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Default NIP in church? Appropriate?

In article .com,
"KR" wrote:

Jesus also ate breakfast every day, but I wouldn't sit in church and
eat my bagel and coffee... I'm not against nursing in church, but the
reason I wouldn't do it is because then I couldn't stand up for the
psalms and such and the rest of the congregation would.


I suppose it depends how important bodily positioning is in your church, but I
woud count BFing in the 'infirmity' category. I am sure there are elderly
people in your church who are unable to stand (or to stand up quickly), plus
the occasional person with a sprained ankle or whatever, and nobody would
consider their inability to stand to be irreverent. The attitude of heart is
what counts.

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start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
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Old October 3rd 06, 09:54 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Sarah Vaughan
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Default NIP in church? Appropriate?

KR wrote:
Jesus also ate breakfast every day, but I wouldn't sit in church and
eat my bagel and coffee... I'm not against nursing in church, but the
reason I wouldn't do it is because then I couldn't stand up for the
psalms and such and the rest of the congregation would. When I've had
to breastfeed during a service I would go to the nursery and do so. It
is just a personal preference, I nip anywhere else.


Well, I don't go to church. But surely, in most cases, getting up and
leaving during a service is going to be more disruptive than just
fiddling about with your clothes a bit and then nursing right there?


All the best,

Sarah
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Old October 5th 06, 11:56 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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If you think it's appropriate to give a baby a bottle in your church, then
it's appropriate to nurse a baby. That is the way that baby eats. They
can't wait, and the mother shouldn't be expected to miss the service by
leaving or not attending. NIP should be as discrete as possible in this
case.


interesting, I would say the same, though I really can't think of an
instance where I've seen a women bottle feed in the main part of church at
the church I went to in England, but many many women would breastfeed. In
part it may be that if the bottle needed warming, or mixing, or whatever
that they would have to go out to do that, then not come back in. It might
also be an issue of scheduling, that a bottle fed babies feeds are often
more timed, so they may have planned it around church.

Cheers

Anne


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Old October 6th 06, 12:00 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Anne Rogers
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Default NIP in church? Appropriate?

It's never occurred to me that it wasn't appropriate!

I think that this may be a difference between the US and other places, I've
just moved from the UK to the US, in my church in the UK, most people
breastfed in the main part of church and when they didn't, it was mainly
because the baby was already in creche or something and they'd just settle
down there, but I've just moved to the US and I've already noticed
differences, today I went to a morning group and a women at my table asked
all our permissions before she nursed and then did so with a blanket, which
of course meant everyone noticed, when had she not asked some people may not
have done and I think in the end I saw just as much as I would have done
without a blanket, I looked round and only saw people nursing with a
blanket, not without, what I saw today may not be a decent assessment, but
it felt as if people were apologising for nursing and questioning every
location.

Anne


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Old October 6th 06, 02:03 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Default NIP in church? Appropriate?


Anne Rogers wrote:
It's never occurred to me that it wasn't appropriate!


I think that this may be a difference between the US and other places, I've
just moved from the UK to the US, in my church in the UK, most people
breastfed in the main part of church and when they didn't, it was mainly
because the baby was already in creche or something and they'd just settle
down there, but I've just moved to the US and I've already noticed
differences, today I went to a morning group and a women at my table asked
all our permissions before she nursed and then did so with a blanket, which
of course meant everyone noticed, when had she not asked some people may not
have done and I think in the end I saw just as much as I would have done
without a blanket, I looked round and only saw people nursing with a
blanket, not without, what I saw today may not be a decent assessment, but
it felt as if people were apologising for nursing and questioning every
location.

Anne


I've done it in church, and I've seen at least one other mom do so,
although I often will go to the nursery. By the time he's hungry enough
to tell me, my boy is crying and making a spectacle of himself so it's
better that we remove ourselves as to not disrupt the service.

I wouldn't have done it early on in my breastfeeding days, I just
wasn't comfortable NIP anywhere in the open really when we first
started. But now that my son and I are both breastfeeding pros, we can
accomplish a feed without anybody really realizing - and without either
of us really caring if someone DOES figure it out.

KD & G

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Old October 6th 06, 03:28 PM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Default NIP in church? Appropriate?


Anne Rogers wrote:
It's never occurred to me that it wasn't appropriate!


I think that this may be a difference between the US and other places, I've
just moved from the UK to the US, in my church in the UK, most people
breastfed in the main part of church and when they didn't, it was mainly
because the baby was already in creche or something and they'd just settle
down there, but I've just moved to the US and I've already noticed
differences, today I went to a morning group and a women at my table asked
all our permissions before she nursed and then did so with a blanket, which
of course meant everyone noticed, when had she not asked some people may not
have done and I think in the end I saw just as much as I would have done
without a blanket, I looked round and only saw people nursing with a
blanket, not without, what I saw today may not be a decent assessment, but
it felt as if people were apologising for nursing and questioning every
location.


Sounds familiar. You're far more likely to notice with the blanket than
without. I never use one but that's because it's so dang hot here!

Sometimes I ask, if it's a smallish group with new people, but usually
not. I might turn to the side to get it going. We were out at a pub the
other day (sitting outside) and I tried to latch her on discreetly
whilst sitting with about 20 people, mostly men, but she was too
distracted and a spectacle was on the verge. So I moved away to a quiet
spot.

 




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