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Old August 26th 06, 07:39 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
Dusty
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Default CT - State to double fees to track down child support delinquents

Ya gotta love the math involved here..

32 (so-called) "deadbeats" owe $58 million bucks (yes, you read it right, CT
is claiming 32 people owe a combined CS (BS is more like it) bill of
$58 -MILLION- (yup, that's right, $58 MILLION) dollars!).

Here's the bit I'm having trouble swallowing - they claim that the average
owed by each "deadbeat" is about $18,000.

Well, using simple math, that equates to around $576,000 (32 x $18,000 =
$576,000) which is a far cry from the $58 million (!!!) the state claims
they owe. Yet the state of CT would have us believe that each owes $1.8
MILLION in CS arrears.. each!

(for the math/liberal/radfem impaired, that's $58 MILLION divided-by 32
people to get $1.8 MILLION)

According to my math, somehow there's a $57.4 million dollar discrepancy in
there.. And I really doubt it's these so-called "deadbeats" that are making
up the figures that CT is using.

Now, here's the funny part.. CT admits to spending $120 on each of the 500
warrants they passed out last year. Which would mean that CT spent $60,000
on warrants in 2005 between 25 state marshals (and average of $2400 extra
for each marshal - in addition to their regular pay, that is).

So, now if CT follows through as they did last year, these same 25 marshals
can expect to serve 520 warrants at $240 a pop. Which means they gain
nearly an extra $5000 this year (again, in addition to their regular
salary).

In other words (here's the punch-line), CT is about to spend nearly 1/4 of
what "might" be owed in CS (approximately $125,000) for handing out slips of
paper to people who "owe" money for having had the state remove them from
their children's lives.

Yeah, it makes a hell of a lotta sense to me, too. Is it just me, or does
anyone else smell a rat too??

$58 million owed in CS, indeed!
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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...-apconnecticut

State to double fees to track down child support delinquents
August 24, 2006, 1:05 AM EDT


WATERBURY, Conn. (AP) _ The state Judicial Branch will temporarily double
the fees it pays state marshals to help track down child support delinquents
and bring them into court.

The most recalcitrant deadbeat parents in Connecticut owe nearly $58 million
in child support.

The fee increase, to $240, is set to begin Sept. 1 and end Jan. 31, 2007.

State officials hope that by doubling the fees marshals will execute 520
civil arrest warrants, twice the number served during the same five-month
period a year earlier.

But even with increased enforcement, officials realize they will not collect
the entire $58 million in outstanding child-support payments because judges
will change the amount owed by parents based on what they can afford.

Still, the increased fees will help make a difference, said James E. Neil,
director of operations for the State Marshal Commission.

"I think it will clearly offer incentives for more marshals to get
involved," he said.

State marshals are responsible for executing child support civil arrest
warrants intended to bring deadbeat parents into court. A warrant is issued
by a judge when a parent fails to pay child support and appear in court for
contempt hearings.

More than 3,200 deadbeat parents have outstanding warrants, according to the
Judicial Branch. Each owes an average of $18,000.

Only a small percentage of the approximately 200 state marshals serve most
of the warrants. Last year, 500 warrants were served by 25 marshals.

Even with the fee increase, which will be the first since the 1980s, Neil
said executing warrants will not be the most lucrative part of a marshal's
job, which also includes serving court papers.

Executing child-support warrants is time-consuming because deadbeat parents
are difficult to find. And warrants are often issued for parents who work
off the books, frustrating efforts by the state to garnish wages.

In addition, marshals face hazards trying to track down parents, Neil said.
Some deadbeat parents may have outstanding arrest warrants that provide yet
another reason why they remain hidden from sight, he said.


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Old August 26th 06, 08:17 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
YooperBoyka
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Default CT - State to double fees to track down child support delinquents


"Dusty" wrote in message ...
Ya gotta love the math involved here..

32 (so-called) "deadbeats" owe $58 million bucks (yes, you read it right, CT is claiming 32 people
owe a combined CS (BS is more like it) bill of $58 -MILLION- (yup, that's right, $58 MILLION)
dollars!).


"More than 3,200 deadbeat parents have outstanding warrants, according to the
Judicial Branch. Each owes an average of $18,000."

Looks like you missed a couple of zeroes.
Hyperbole does nothing to further the cause.



Here's the bit I'm having trouble swallowing - they claim that the average owed by each "deadbeat"
is about $18,000.

Well, using simple math, that equates to around $576,000 (32 x $18,000 = $576,000) which is a far
cry from the $58 million (!!!) the state claims they owe. Yet the state of CT would have us
believe that each owes $1.8 MILLION in CS arrears.. each!

(for the math/liberal/radfem impaired, that's $58 MILLION divided-by 32 people to get $1.8
MILLION)

According to my math, somehow there's a $57.4 million dollar discrepancy in there.. And I really
doubt it's these so-called "deadbeats" that are making up the figures that CT is using.

Now, here's the funny part.. CT admits to spending $120 on each of the 500 warrants they passed
out last year. Which would mean that CT spent $60,000 on warrants in 2005 between 25 state
marshals (and average of $2400 extra for each marshal - in addition to their regular pay, that
is).

So, now if CT follows through as they did last year, these same 25 marshals can expect to serve
520 warrants at $240 a pop. Which means they gain nearly an extra $5000 this year (again, in
addition to their regular salary).

In other words (here's the punch-line), CT is about to spend nearly 1/4 of what "might" be owed in
CS (approximately $125,000) for handing out slips of paper to people who "owe" money for having
had the state remove them from their children's lives.

Yeah, it makes a hell of a lotta sense to me, too. Is it just me, or does anyone else smell a rat
too??

$58 million owed in CS, indeed!
---------------------------------------------------------

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...-apconnecticut

State to double fees to track down child support delinquents
August 24, 2006, 1:05 AM EDT


WATERBURY, Conn. (AP) _ The state Judicial Branch will temporarily double the fees it pays state
marshals to help track down child support delinquents and bring them into court.

The most recalcitrant deadbeat parents in Connecticut owe nearly $58 million in child support.

The fee increase, to $240, is set to begin Sept. 1 and end Jan. 31, 2007.

State officials hope that by doubling the fees marshals will execute 520 civil arrest warrants,
twice the number served during the same five-month period a year earlier.

But even with increased enforcement, officials realize they will not collect the entire $58
million in outstanding child-support payments because judges will change the amount owed by
parents based on what they can afford.

Still, the increased fees will help make a difference, said James E. Neil, director of operations
for the State Marshal Commission.

"I think it will clearly offer incentives for more marshals to get involved," he said.

State marshals are responsible for executing child support civil arrest warrants intended to bring
deadbeat parents into court. A warrant is issued by a judge when a parent fails to pay child
support and appear in court for contempt hearings.

More than 3,200 deadbeat parents have outstanding warrants, according to the Judicial Branch. Each
owes an average of $18,000.

Only a small percentage of the approximately 200 state marshals serve most of the warrants. Last
year, 500 warrants were served by 25 marshals.

Even with the fee increase, which will be the first since the 1980s, Neil said executing warrants
will not be the most lucrative part of a marshal's job, which also includes serving court papers.

Executing child-support warrants is time-consuming because deadbeat parents are difficult to find.
And warrants are often issued for parents who work off the books, frustrating efforts by the state
to garnish wages.

In addition, marshals face hazards trying to track down parents, Neil said. Some deadbeat parents
may have outstanding arrest warrants that provide yet another reason why they remain hidden from
sight, he said.



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Old August 26th 06, 10:35 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
Moon Shyne
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Default CT - State to double fees to track down child support delinquents


"Dusty" wrote in message
...
Ya gotta love the math involved here..

32 (so-called) "deadbeats"


Reading is fundamental - it states 3,200 with outstanding warrants who owe
$58,000,000

Now, let's do the math

58,000,000 divided by 3,2000 equals 18,125

Average owed sure LOOKS like about $18,000



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Old August 26th 06, 01:28 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
Dusty
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Default CT - State to double fees to track down child support delinquents

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"Dusty" wrote in message
...
Ya gotta love the math involved here..

32 (so-called) "deadbeats"


Reading is fundamental - it states 3,200 with outstanding warrants who owe
$58,000,000

Now, let's do the math

58,000,000 divided by 3,2000 equals 18,125

Average owed sure LOOKS like about $18,000


Damn. Well that's the last time I stay up late to read the news...


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Old August 26th 06, 07:00 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
Bob Whiteside
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Default CT - State to double fees to track down child support delinquents


"YooperBoyka" wrote in message
...

"Dusty" wrote in message

...
Ya gotta love the math involved here..

32 (so-called) "deadbeats" owe $58 million bucks (yes, you read it

right, CT is claiming 32 people
owe a combined CS (BS is more like it) bill of $58 -MILLION- (yup,

that's right, $58 MILLION)
dollars!).


"More than 3,200 deadbeat parents have outstanding warrants, according to

the
Judicial Branch. Each owes an average of $18,000."

Looks like you missed a couple of zeroes.
Hyperbole does nothing to further the cause.


When I see these articles about CS based on owed CSE press releases I start
looking for what the government is not telling us. Government agencies spin
what they do, or need to do, to constantly increase agency funding.

Here are some facts based on the CT "State Boxscore for FY 2005" published
on the Federal CSE web site.

CT has 210,453 CS cases. The 3,200 delinquent cases represent 1.5% of their
total workload.

CT claims 3,200 cases owe $58 million which is over $18,000 per case. If
these cases are average (an it is my guess they are not average) it took
over 16 years per case to accumulate the arrears they claim. (CT disburses
$1118 per case per year.)

CT spends $68,962,039 per year on their CS agency. That's $279 per case.
($68.9 million/210,453 cases.) Spending an extra $100+ on 3,200 cases is
not going to have much of an impact on their total budget.


 




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