"Child Support" money?

"Gini52" wrote in message
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In article , Moon Shyne
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"Gini52" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:45:28 -0500, "Tiffany"
wrote:


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The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other
place
where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice
cream
truck
because they don't issue receipts?

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You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying
for?

T

It could be.. if the street fair is selling school supplies cheaper
than walmart and you buy them there isnt that still spending money on
the child's basic needs?

I can think of all kinds of necessity items one could by at a street
fair vs a store. All brand new items often less expensive than at
the stores themselves.
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Logic dictates that incidental spending be attributable to the CP's
percent
share. The NCP is not responsible for the entire financial output for
the
child(ren). Y'all didn't forget about that part, did you?

Considering that the CS I receive is less than half the actual expenses
for the
children, nope, I sure didn't forget that part.
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But, apparantly you didn't get the part where I stated that accountability
should not be applied to lower income NCPs where the ordered support
amount
doesn't cover actual expenses. Only *lifestyle* support should be subject
to
accountability and *then* only the amount which exceeds the states' basic
needs
amount. My proposal doesn't apply to you at all so go for the ice cream
and have
a great time :-)

......moonie is once again playing games.......since she is the one that is
determining what the childrens expenses are. Lifestyle support should NOT be
part of the CS equaltion. It is simply a gross violation of a person's basic
constitutional rights. The state has determined the amount required to
supply a child with their basic needs (foster care payments) Each parent
sould be responsible for half, and anything else should be up to the
individual parent's choosing......NOT at the whim of the CP like moonie.

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Gini52 wrote in message
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In article , Fighting For Kids
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:45:28 -0500, "Tiffany"
wrote:


=====
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other
place
where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice
cream
truck
because they don't issue receipts?

=====
=====


You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for?

T

It could be.. if the street fair is selling school supplies cheaper
than walmart and you buy them there isnt that still spending money on
the child's basic needs?

I can think of all kinds of necessity items one could by at a street
fair vs a store. All brand new items often less expensive than at
the stores themselves.
=====
Logic dictates that incidental spending be attributable to the CP's
percent
share. The NCP is not responsible for the entire financial output for the
child(ren). Y'all didn't forget about that part, did you?
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Good point...... and I do have to add, I don't know if it is law but I have
had to demand receipt for things I have bought at unusual places. I didn't
care if it was on a crappy piece of paper. Prove is prove.

T

Moon Shyne wrote in message
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Gini52" wrote in message
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"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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"Jon" wrote in message
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So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket or
take a
drink?


Child support should not be used for anything other than for
supporting the
child.

So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my
lottery
ticket
with my own money.

Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all
look
the
same.
=====
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other
place
where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice
cream
truck
because they don't issue receipts?

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You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for?

I think those are the sort of things that many, if not most, parents
occasionally purchase for their kids, whether the marriage is intact or
not.

There are any number of things that I purchase for my children that I
don't get
a receipt for - lunch tickets for school, for example (at 1.55 (elementary
school) and 1.85 (junior high), a nutritious bargain at that price) - I
was
questioning the requirement that you can only buy things for which you get
a
receipt.


T





You don't think if it came down to it, you couldn't get the school to write
you a receipt? I am sure they would, especially if the government was
requesting it. Besides, your ex should only have to pay half of that. And
whether a marriage is intact or not, ice cream is not necessary. If you
can't afford it, don't get it.

T

Gini52 wrote in message
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"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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"Jon" wrote in message
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So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket or
take a
drink?


Child support should not be used for anything other than for
supporting
the
child.

So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my
lottery
ticket
with my own money.

Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all
look the
same.
=====
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other
place
where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice
cream
truck
because they don't issue receipts?
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Yep. It comes from your percent share. (My proposal is, however, that
only the
amount over reasonable actual expenses should be subject to
accounting.)

Who gets to decide what "reasonable expenses" are?
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Already posted.
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It seems we pick this apart but forget logic. lol

T

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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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The Dave© wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream
from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts?

Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you
can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it?

Well, I don't think it should be a nickel-dime thing. CP's should be
accountable for the large sums of money that doesn't seem to go to the
kids,
not a mere $2.50 for an ice cream.

$2.50 here, $2.50 there. Nickels and dimes add up to dollars.


T





True it does, but if one can't afford ice cream and needs child support to
pay for it........ maybe they shouldn't buy the ice cream.

T

Moon Shyne wrote in message
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"The Dave©" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream
from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts?

Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you
can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it?

Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the actual
expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your remark.



Some receive no financial support.

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"Fighting For Kids" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:54:44 -0800, "Chris" wrote:


I COULD be wrong, but I believe that you are legally entitled to a
receipt.


lol, you may be legally entitled but that doesnt mean you are going to
get one.

You are legally entitled to wake up tomorrow morning, but that doesn't
mean
someone won't put a bullet in your head tonight. What's your point?



Wow.... I do think you are right about the receipt thing too. So if you are
needing receipts, wouldn't it be suggested you don't buy from someone who
won't give it to you? Duh. lol

T

Moon Shyne wrote:
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream
from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts?

Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you
can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it?

Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the
actual expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your
remark.

That's not what you said. You're avoiding the point. Your statement
gave no indication that you were talking only about you, specifically.
Can you address the response to your own point, or not?

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Gini52" wrote in message
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Shyne
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"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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"Jon" wrote in message
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So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket
or
take a
drink?


Child support should not be used for anything other than for
supporting the
child.

So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my
lottery
ticket
with my own money.

Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all
look
the
same.
=====
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other
place
where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice
cream
truck
because they don't issue receipts?

=====
=====




You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying
for?

I think those are the sort of things that many, if not most, parents
occasionally purchase for their kids, whether the marriage is intact or
not.

There are any number of things that I purchase for my children that I
don't get
a receipt for - lunch tickets for school, for example (at 1.55
(elementary
school) and 1.85 (junior high), a nutritious bargain at that price) - I
was
questioning the requirement that you can only buy things for which you
get
a
receipt.


T





You don't think if it came down to it, you couldn't get the school to
write
you a receipt? I am sure they would, especially if the government was
requesting it.

As far as I know, she is legally entitled to a receipt.

Besides, your ex should only have to pay half of that. And
whether a marriage is intact or not, ice cream is not necessary. If you
can't afford it, don't get it.

T

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote in message
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"The Dave©" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt.

So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some
other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream
from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts?

Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you
can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it?

Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the actual
expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your remark.



Some receive no financial support.

As it SHOULD be, unless they are receiving voluntary welfare donations.