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vernon wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... vernon wrote: Ilena wrote in message ... P.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "VERACARE" Why has the FDA concealed from the public 51 deaths from ADHD drugs until now? 51 out of around 100,000 per year of miss-prescribed and errors is quite insignificant. You are mistaken in your interpretation of the numbers. The NY Times reported that this was a study of five years of records, 1999 through 2003. The number of deaths is also incorrect. "Twenty-five people died suddenly and 54 others suffered serious unexplained heart problems while taking stimulant drugs like Ritalin from 1999 through 2003, according to reports sent to federal drug regulators." Now, let's take a minute and analyze this. Twenty-five people died over the course of 5 years. That averages to 5 deaths per year. The NYTimes then reports that "...[a]bout 29 million prescriptions were written in 2004 for Ritalin, Adderall and similar drugs to treat attention deficit disorder and hyperactivity, most of them for children." Assume that the average prescription rate is *only* 25,000,000 per year. Since these medications are Schedule II, which means that only a one months supply can be written at a time, approximately 2,083,333 people per month are, on average, being prescribed these medications. Assume that all 5 deaths happened in the same month, and you wind up with a rate of 2.4000003840000614400098304015729e-6. Compare that with the odds of being struck by lightening: http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm My younger son attends a special school for physically handicapped students. In the past three years, two classmates have died for no apparent reason, the last being in December 2005. One of the kids in my neighborhood died from running the bases. His father is a DDS and was at the school at the time. He is trained in using a defibrillator and could not resuscitate his son. I would classify this report and just this side of relatively meaningless. That's what I said. Yeah, but not as well as I did... The numbers really do not add up very well. Ever wonder about how many die of no apparent reason? Like I pointed out in the paragraph above, yes, on three occasions in the past 2 years. One boy rode the bus with my younger son and they hung out together outside of school. He did not wake up one morning. One boy was the captain of my son's school's wheelchair basketball team. No arms and two underdeveloped legs. He used one to operate the joystick on his power chair, and the other, the longer of the two, for dribbling, stealing and shooting. His mother thought he was sleeping on the school bus when he came home from school. The third is a neighborhood kid who had just finished running the bases and died. From the little I have seen, it is sickening. Not a conspiracy, but lack of involvement and laws to determine. It is very shocking for parents to sudden lose a child who is in apparent good medical health. Sadly, even on autopsy, the actual cause of death cannot often be determined. I know in the two cases where I know the families well, they still do not know what happened. Both boys, having physical disabilities, had been carefully examined and monitored over the years. |
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JanD wrote:
"Twittering One" wrote in message oups.com... Without checking the data, I suggest that Accutane might be just as dangerous. We aren't talking about *Accutane* You may not be talking about it, but the discussion has expanded to discuss the death of children. |
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Bob Kaplow wrote:
In article , Mark Probert writes: "Twenty-five people died suddenly and 54 others suffered serious unexplained heart problems while taking stimulant drugs like Ritalin from 1999 through 2003, according to reports sent to federal drug regulators." Now, let's take a minute and analyze this. Twenty-five people died over the course of 5 years. That averages to 5 deaths per year. The NYTimes then reports that "...[a]bout 29 million prescriptions were written in 2004 for Ritalin, Adderall and similar drugs to treat attention deficit disorder and hyperactivity, most of them for children." How many people died over the same period of Tylenol (or the many generic equivalents) overdose? How many more suffered life threatening complications, or are now on a wait list for an organ transplant from Tylenol. And why aren't these same people SCREAMING to pull Tylenol off the market. Damn, Bob, stop making sense. APAP has one of the narrowest windows between "therapeutic" and "toxic" of all medications. Several years ago, while I was in ICU after having aspirated during a test, there was a girl in who was on life support after ODing on APAP. Assuming that the AD/HD medications pose a risk, the risk is barely significant, and we will not know how significant, if at all, until it is determined that the rate of death is adversely affected by the medication, when compared to unmedicated people. |
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Brad_Chad wrote:
If conventional doctors had any moral integrity, they would have at least given all their ADHD patients a choice of either medication, or help with finding their Hidden Food Sensitivities. Instead, they go straight for the drugs. They don't tell their patients anything about the Hidden Food Sensitivity controversy. What greedy wimps. They sold their soul to the pharmaceutical companies. What a maroon. |
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It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Bob Kaplow wrote:
How many people died over the same period of Tylenol (or the many generic equivalents) overdose? How many more suffered life threatening complications, or are now on a wait list for an organ transplant from Tylenol. And why aren't these same people SCREAMING to pull Tylenol off the market. Um, cause these people have had a really bad headache at some point but not ADHD? Vashti |
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How the heck does anyone with ADHA read such a long Cut & Paste
POSTING? IT would take 30mg of AdderallRX for me to want to read such a long Posting. Unfortunately, I an not on Adderall. Nothing like not sleeping from 3 to 6 AM, then sleeping until 10 AM. The being tired and sleepy all day. Falling asleep after a light supper. I live on coffee but it does not stop the sleepyness during the day. I am an adult over 60, good physical condition, 14% body fat, exercise 4 times a week, eat healthy yet I am darn tired all the time. OBTW, 25 or 50 out of 100,000 is NOT ALARMING! Wonder what the DWI/death rate per 100,000 motor vehicle accidents????? JanD wrote: "vernon" wrote in message g.com... Ilena wrote in message ... P.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "VERACARE" Why has the FDA concealed from the public 51 deaths from ADHD drugs until now? 51 out of around 100,000 per year of miss-prescribed and errors is quite insignificant. EVERY death is significant. MOST significant that the FDA concealed information from the public, and WHY! AHRP board member, Allen Jones, will be testifying about undisclosed conflicts of interest that undermine the integrity of FDA's advisory committees. The advisory panel members' undisclosed conflicts of interest demonstrate the FDA's complicity in putting financial interests above safety. And it demonstrate's FDA officials' disregard for federal conflicts of interest requirements. It is, perhaps, not just a coincidence that while still under investigation, former FDA Commissioner, Lester Crawford, has joined a lobbying group that promotes food and drug industry interests. Elen Liversidge will be testifying on behalf of the thousands of famileis whose children are casualties of psychotropic drugs--stimulants, antidepressants, and antipsychotics--all of which are dangerous and toxic. It might be more effective if these drugs don't just carry a black box, but a scull and bones. Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav 212-595-8974 http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=1595545 FDA reports 51 deaths of attention drug patientsReuters WASHINGTON - Deaths of 51 U.S. patients who took widely prescribed drugs to treat attention deficit disorder prompted regulators to start watching for heart attacks, high blood pressure and other problems in 2004, a report released on Wednesday said. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration staff did not say the drugs were responsible for the fatalities, but they urged close monitoring for "the rare occurrence of pediatric sudden death during stimulant therapy." "These reports themselves do not establish a causal relationship between these medications and cardiovascular adverse events," wrote Dr. Gerald Dal Pan, director of the FDA's Office of Drug Safety, in a separate notice on the agency Web site. The information was released one day ahead of an FDA advisory panel meeting on how best to study potential risks from the drugs, which include Shire Pharmaceuticals Group Plc's Adderall and Novartis AG's Ritalin. FDA staff scientists and experts will provide updated information at the meeting about serious health problems that have been reported, the agency said. Use of drugs to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, was controversial before the cardiac issue emerged, with many doctors and parents arguing the medicines are overprescribed. The FDA said it decided to seek input from an advisory panel after reports of sudden death, high blood pressure, heart attacks and strokes among some of the millions of adults and children who have taken the medicines. Through 2003, 24 deaths were reported from 1999 through 2003 among U.S. patients who took Adderall for ADHD, the FDA staff report said. The agency excluded cases that appeared linked to intoxication from multiple drugs or other causes. Another 16 deaths were reported through 2003 in U.S. patients who took Ritalin or other ADHD drugs known as methylphenidates, the report said. Eleven deaths were reported among other drugs besides Adderall in the amphetamine class, it said. "Conclusions about the relative safety of these two stimulant therapies cannot be made on the basis of this analysis," the FDA staff said. Thirty additional deaths of methylphenidate patients were recorded but they were either non-U.S. cases or occurred outside the review period, the report said. Shire spokesman Matthew Cabrey said data have not shown any correlation between Adderall and the sudden deaths reported among children. He said the company supports the FDA's review of the matter. Health Canada temporarily suspended Adderall sales last year after 20 reports of sudden death in people who took it. The agency allowed Adderall back on the market after concluding it could not prove the drug was more risky than other therapies. Novartis said its own review found no increased risk of cardiovascular problems in patients who took methylphenidates compared with the general population. The FDA also has been studying if ADHD drugs may be related to psychiatric problems. Republican Sen. Charles Grassley charged the FDA had taken a "disjointed" approach to the drugs over the past year. In a letter to the agency, the Iowa Republican suggested a "comprehensive" review of all ADHD medicines. Shares of British firm Shire fell 3.2 percent to 890.2 pence in London trading. Novartis shares gained 5 cents to close at $54.70 on the New York Stock Exchange. Copyright 2006 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Copyright C 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures http://www.thepinksheetdaily.com/NR/FDC/images/pdly/print_masthead.gif THE PINK SHEET February 07, 2006 Number 004 Grassley Mows Down FDA Handling Of ADHD Drug Safety 14060207004 Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) is urging FDA to conduct a comprehensive review of side effects associated with attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder drugs. In a Feb. 7 letter to Acting FDA Commissioner Andrew von Eschenbach, Gr! assley acknowledges that the agency is taking steps to discuss safety concerns related to ADHD drugs, but says that the planned advisory committee meetings are inadequate. On Feb. 9, FDA's Drug Safety Risk Management Advisory Committee will discuss cardiovascular events associated with ADHD drugs. On March 22, the Pediatric Advisory Committee will discuss neuropsychiatric adverse events in the pediatric ADHD population. [Editor's note: To 1sign up for a webcast http://www.fdaadvisorycommittee.com/ or order a video/DVD of these meetings, visit FDAAdvisoryCommittee.com.] Grassley said he remains "concerned that lost between the two meetings is a comprehensive review of all adverse events for this entire class of medication for all populations served." He called FDA's actions thus far "ad hoc and disjointed." Additionally, Grassley added, "While both psychiatric and cardiovascular risk signals have cropped up across this class of drugs this past year, it appears that FDA is just now beginning to 'discuss approaches' for studying these risks." In June 2005, the committee concluded that reports of suicidality with Johnson & Johnson's Concerta and other methylphenidate products did not constitute a new signal for concern. In September, FDA issued a public health advisory on suicidal thinking in children and adolescents taking Lilly's Strattera for ADHD. The agency said it would not add a warning to other ADHD products pending an analysis of post-marketing adverse events from those products (2"The Pink Sheet" DAILY, Sept. 29, 2005 http://www.thepinksheetdaily.com/fdc...o?targetAN=140 50929002 ). "I question why it has taken nearly an entire year for FDA to begin to address these concerns, given the serious nature of the adverse events associated with these drugs," Grassley said. FDA's Psychopharmacologic Drugs Advisory Committee will convene March 23 to review a pending ADHD drug, Cephalon's Sparlon (modafinil), which has the same active ingredient as Cephalon's sleep disorder therapy Provigil (3"The Pink Sheet" DAILY, Jan. 25, 2006 http://www.thepinksheetdaily.com/fdc...o?targetAN=140 60125006 ). One topic the committee will likely address will be how to distinguish Sparlon from other ADHD drugs with regard to potential safety issues. -Kathleen Michael |
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"vernon" wrote in message ng.com... "JanD" wrote in message news:riWGf.788828$xm3.28346@attbi_s21... This is a diversion, trying to justify the deaths. You really do have a problem with reality. Justify??? You have a problem? J U S T I F Y. Look it up. |
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"vernon" wrote in message ng.com... "JanD" wrote in message news:bnWGf.788863$xm3.769561@attbi_s21... "Twittering One" wrote in message oups.com... Without checking the data, I suggest that Accutane might be just as dangerous. We aren't talking about *Accutane* YOU are not talking about anything relevant. Incorrect, that was "Twittering One". Try to follow. |
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"vernon" wrote in message ng.com... "Brad_Chad" wrote in message oups.com... If conventional doctors had any moral integrity, they would have at least given all their ADHD patients a choice of either medication, or help with finding their Hidden Food Sensitivities. Instead, they go straight for the drugs. They don't tell their patients anything about the Hidden Food Sensitivity controversy. What greedy wimps. They sold their soul to the pharmaceutical companies. Brad_Chad Pharms had nothing to do with it. It's crass laziness along with putting up with idiotic mommies. Incorrect. It is the DOCTORS. YOU left out idiotic DADDIES! Says a lot about YOU! |
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"Bob Kaplow" wrote snip diversion , Mark Prober writes: snip diversion "Twenty-five people died suddenly and 54 others suffered serious unexplained heart problems while taking stimulant drugs like Ritalin from 1999 through 2003, according to reports sent to federal drug regulators." -- Bob Kaplow |
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