The feminist view of breastfeeding

Okay, first of all sweetheart you know little if anything about me. As
you can see I do not attempt to assume things about you. Rather I ask
questions and look for your response that is the respectful thing to
do; as opposed to assuming things.
Anyways, I have heard those view points since high school as well as
many others. So don't worry there is no need to educate. But I do not
think that any author wrote in vain. If their purpose was to convert
people into believing radical idea's then maybe it was. But I
seriously, don't believe that would be a clever form of persuasion so I
don't believe conversions were the intentions.


elizabeth wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
wrote in
oups.com:

I really am curious why you are so frustrated with something that is an
option in the first place. Why do you not respect a womans rights
Women really don't like other women.


I loathe women who make it impossible for women to be treated like
human beings. By becoming a broodsow and insisting that this is the
way women should be, she is pushing the same ideas that Magda Goebbels
did, that motherhood is what women are for, and in a time of
overpopulation, the idea that half the population should stay home and
breed more resource suckers is absolute insanity, unless you like wars,
plagues, and famines.

Okay, but the post I replied to stated that they were not able to bare
children specifically.


Kent wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are
hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem
strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in
group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child
raising efforts.

That's because some lamebrain crossposted it into a childfree group (fixed).

Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where [sic] your parents not
breeders?
Do you despise your self? Respectivly, does all this hatred stem from
the fact that you are not able to bare [sic] children?

ChildFREE doesn't mean "not able to bear children", it means "don't WANT
to". Childfree doesn't mean infertile (though many childfree people get
voluntarily sterilized).

Just to let you know
if you ever one day feel the want to have a child then remember this.
Though you may not be able to have a little "crotch-fruit" there are
plenty out there who are searching for parents to care for them. My God
says that the childless are blessed because they have the ability to
mother as many children or as few as they choose.

wrote:
Lol, yeah and I would not have it any other why. I like to get layed
don't you.

I like to get laid.
But then, I got educated first.

Phyl wrote:
elizabeth wrote:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"elizabeth" wrote in news:1154890987.827732.58720
snip
My mother had her children before legal contraception and abortion,
when there were fewer than 3 billion people on the planet, with none of
the tax giveaways and freebies we give people now who breed children
they can't or won't support.
and insisting that this is the
way women should be,
It is the some women CHOOSE to be.
Well, it's a stupid CHOICE, because women who choose to stay home and
breed kids end up homeless and alone quite a bit.

I chose to stay home and have children, and I went back to work after
they were in school. My girls are terrific, and I enjoy them immensely,
as does my husband.

Whoopee for YOU! So what? Why do you feel a need to trumpet your
so-called happiness?

You have a lot of issues, it sounds like, and a great deal of
bitterness.

And that would be more projection on your part. If I had wanted
children, I would have had them. I had to fight *not* to have
children. I can remember when abortion was illegal, and women had to
lie to get contraception.

You don't want to have children? Great. I did? Great.

Live and let live.

Trouble is, because of breedersows like YOU, YOUR children will have to
sell their asses for support, because we have too many people and too
few jobs. You know what it's like for girls in the former soviet
union? That's better than the future YOUR daughters will face.
Because of YOUR choices, the Commons is overgrazed and everyone
suffers.

BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's
shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have
children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't
much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by
middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness
of men is why most women end up on the streets.

One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over,
expecting a different result. After a couple of generations of
"displaced homemakers" women like you look truly insane.

Why do you feel a need to call me bitter? Seems to me that indicates
that maybe you're not as happy with your choices as you want to make
yourself believe.

elizabeth wrote:


BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's
shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have
children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't
much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by
middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness
of men is why most women end up on the streets.



I also think that another good way for breeders to
look at their future is to visit a rest home and
ask the residents there how often their children
come to see them. Breeders of both genders seem
to think that their kids will always love them
unconditionally and will "take care of them when
they're old."

In article .com,
wrote:
Ahh......I can understand that, completely. I think it is sad though.
We do not have to look at each other like that. I think we should stick
together and respect and learn from our differences.

You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are
hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem
strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in
group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child
raising efforts.
Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where your parents not breeders?

Over in clc, they note that it is never valid to cross post between clc
and clc++, since they are different languages. I think the same can be
said for cross-posting between misc.kids.* and alt.support.childfree.

I'm sure that there are more than 2 universally invalid newgroup combinations
in the above list...

That has to be a proven theroy.
Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Ahh......I can understand that, completely. I think it is sad though.
We do not have to look at each other like that. I think we should stick
together and respect and learn from our differences.

You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are
hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem
strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in
group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child
raising efforts.
Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where your parents not breeders?

Over in clc, they note that it is never valid to cross post between clc
and clc++, since they are different languages. I think the same can be
said for cross-posting between misc.kids.* and alt.support.childfree.

I'm sure that there are more than 2 universally invalid newgroup combinations
in the above list...

"elizabeth" wrote in news:1154893466.406728.285740
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Mitchell Holman wrote:
"elizabeth" wrote in news:1154890987.827732.58720
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
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option in the first place. Why do you not respect a womans rights
Women really don't like other women.

There you pretended to speak for women, and you're not one. Typical
male, you have to tell us how we feel. What an asshole you are.

I loathe women who make it impossible for women to be treated like
human beings.
Make it impossible - how?

By selling out to the religious and economic pressures to overbreed
when we can't support those here now.

By becoming a broodsow
Is that what you called YOUR mother?

My mother had her children before legal contraception and abortion,
when there were fewer than 3 billion people on the planet, with none of
the tax giveaways and freebies we give people now who breed children
they can't or won't support.

and insisting that this is the
way women should be,
It is the some women CHOOSE to be.

Well, it's a stupid CHOICE, because women who choose to stay home and
breed kids end up homeless and alone quite a bit. It's a loser's game,
where you have no market value at all. In a capitalist society, such
women are beggars.


Whereas in a non-capitalist society they are....?


Because it's too expensive to raise children now


The mothers here seem to disagree with you.



(because we've "overgrazed our range" and it takes more work to provide
resources) taxpayers are expected to pay for more and more of the costs
involved in raising children.


So? The future of our country is a good
investment.



Because so many men CHOOSE to be
deadbeats and not support their children, we have more foster kids than
ever, and less children being supported by their fathers.


So you hate mothers AND fathers.



That means
the taxpayers pay for more of the parent's responsibilities. I'm also
****ing tired of all the crime and mess children create, like how it
costs SF at least 30 million a year just for graffitti clean up, we
have gangrapists in middle schools, and shootings at high schools are
common. All the breeders of those thugs CHOSE to have a child.


Perhaps you would refer no one to have any
children anywhere. That's going to make it tough
to find people to care for you in your dotage.


she is pushing the same ideas that Magda Goebbels
did, that motherhood is what women are for, and in a time of
overpopulation, the idea that half the population should stay home and
breed more resource suckers is absolute insanity, unless you like
wars,
plagues, and famines.

Are all children "resource suckers"?

Now that we live in a world where we can't house, employ, and feed
those here now, they are.


How very empathetic of you.


It must be painful to live with that much hate.

It's not my fault that overpopulation is destroying YOUR children's
futures.


What overpopulation? There are whole towns in
certain countries that have died because no one
is making babies. Every hear of negative popultion
growth? Look it up.

Kari wrote in news:OwsBg.14758$gU4.1595@trnddc07:

elizabeth wrote:


BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's
shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have
children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't
much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by
middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness
of men is why most women end up on the streets.



I also think that another good way for breeders to
look at their future is to visit a rest home and
ask the residents there how often their children
come to see them. Breeders of both genders seem
to think that their kids will always love them
unconditionally and will "take care of them when
they're old."


It is nice when children visit their parents
but not mandatory. I don't require that of my
children, nor did I impose that on them as a
condition of being born.

Breastfeeding can help prevent breast cancer.

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