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September 14th 05, 04:54 PM
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'Terrible acts': Rima Laibow, MD - hypocrite - babies be damned -
"TERRIBLE ACTS": RIMA LAIBOW, MD - HYPOCRITE - BABIES BE DAMNED
PREGNANT WOMEN: There are SIMPLE things you can do to help your baby at delivery. See below. OPEN LETTER TO RIMA LAIBOW, MD... (archived for global access; search at http://groups.google.com) SHORT VERSION... Rima, to save time see the very end of this post... Sorry to be so blunt - calling you a hypocrite. Your CODEX project is important - but your fellow MDs are committing MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION - before and after birth. Your fellow MDs are LYING to cover-up what you call their "terrible acts"... The MD lies are OBVIOUS (see below). You are violating law and stated medical ethics (quoted below), helping to perpetuate what you call "terrible acts"... Women shouldn't have to ASK for the "extra" up to 30% of pelvic outlet area for their babies. Women shouldn't have to ask for the "extra" up to 50% of blood for their babies. I am sure that 100% of babies being asphyxiated would agree that the CODEX problem is a relatively minor emergency (though I see where CODEX could eventually become a major emergency in your professional natural healing practice). By focusing on CODEX, you are failing to do the minimum to stop the mass baby asphyxiation. You are demonstrating interest in your PROFESSIONAL "health and freedom" - babies' health and freedom be damned. You are a hypocrite. Again, sorry to be blunt - but it's true. LONG VERSION... Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation Rima, You wrote: snip I agree that unnatural birthing positions, bright lights, separation of mother and baby after birth, unanesthetized circumcision, prematurely clamping of the cord, etc. are all terrible acts. I was glad to see your use of the phrase "terrible acts"... Graphic descriptions of your euphemisms will help people understand why your euphemisms are misguided... 1. "UNNATURAL BIRTHING POSITIONS": Obstetricians are knowingly closing birth canals up to 30% - knowingly KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck - as they pull with hands, forceps and vacuums - sometimes pulling so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords. See the Four OB Lies below - they are whoppers... See also: RNs: 'Stitches, episiotomy, and postpartum complications' (Maternal care learning needs) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3725 2. "UNANESTHESIZED CIRCUMCISION": American medicine's mass ripping and slicing of infant penises abruptly went from "no medical indication" to "effective public health measure" (by voice vote and over the objections of a Scientific Board) immediately after I exposed American medicine's phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology. Even "anesthetized" circumcision/infant penis ripping and slicing is obvious child abuse. Even if the anesthesia was complete - and there were no wound pain after the anethesia wore off - it would still be child abuse. "Anesthetizing" a no medical indication procedure that sometimes kills or causes loss of penis does not stop it from being obvious child abuse. Look what happened when I called for an exemption from the child abuse laws for the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis... See Emerson on Circumcision; also: Africa and [Fore]skin Freaks (American MDs) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3774 3. "PREMATURELY CLAMPING THE CORD": Immediately amputating mother from baby, asphyxiating umbilical cord oxygen, forcing baby to breathe with lungs before ready, robbing baby of up to 50% of blood volume. Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG says this happens to EVERY CESAREAN BABY. It also happens in most "cord blood banking" vaginal births... Dr. Morley is recommending a sort of temporary baby strangling experiment to help obstetricians understand that they shouldn't permanently asphyxiate/deny umbilical cord oxygen and rob babies of massive amounts of blood... Here is Dr. Morley's temporary baby strangling experiment: "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/ac og-cp.htm PREGNANT WOMEN: To make sure your baby gets the "extra" up to 50% of blood volume, do not let the obstetrician or midwife clamp your baby's umbilical cord until it has stopped pulsating and your baby is pink and breathing and not in need of resuscitation. *Talk to your obstetrician or midwife today. Rima Laibow, MD continued... I am not sure they are child abuse since they are taught as good practice. It is OBVIOUS they are child abuse - complete with MD cover-up lies and obvious baby asphyxiation experiment (see above). That said, in accord with your "taught as good practice" observation, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. As medical students, MDs are TRAINED to perform these obvious felonies. The object is to make sure that the teaching changes Agreed - hence my call for pardons in advance for MDs. and the key there is the "customer". There are TWO "customers"... Women shouldn't have to ASK for the "extra" up to 30% of room in the birth canal for the second "customer"/baby; nor should women have to ask for the "extra" up to 50% of blood for the second "customer"/baby. Most women don't KNOW to ask - MDs are LYING to cover-up the crime. If women stop going to docs who do things wrong, they will change. They always do. Women are FORCED to "go to docs who do things wrong" - because the docs don't tell them they are doing things wrong - as they lord their legal medical/surgical monopoly over women. You say: "Health freedom means the freedom to choose your own health products, treatments, and practitioners. No one, government or corporation, should dictate or limit these choices." http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ Your birth-canal-closing profession USED government - is STILL using government - to deny women free access to HOMEBIRTH and Homebirth midwives... Consider Lamaze Birthing: empty delivery suites led to obstetrical enlightenment. Lamaze also advocated (may still advocate) semisitting/closing the birth canal up to 30%. "Obstetrical enlightenment" was obstetricians calling homebirth "child abuse"... Money talks. Money talks? So do Suspected Child Abuse Reports from MDs... You ignore obvious MD lies and fail to officially suspect the "terrible acts" as child abuse - or report them - babies be damned. You are in obvious violation of both law and medical ethics... RELEVANT AMA PRINCIPLES OF MEDICAL ETHICS.... "[AMA physician[s] shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in fraud or deception." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public..." http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm Relevant quote from the AMA website: "[P]hysicians must strive to ensure patient safety and should play a central role in identifying, reducing, and preventing health care errors. This responsibility exists even in the absence of a patient-physician relationship." http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/11968.html Rima, filing a report is the MINIMUM "striving" required by law when "terrible acts" against children are so much as SUSPECTED. Thanks for your input. You are welcome. Thanks for your reply, such as it was... Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Laibow You are a hypocrite. Your priority is the health and freedom of your PROFESSION. Meanwhile your profession DENIES freedom (for example) by lying - and tying male babies to boards to rip and slice their penises...not to mention denying freedom by keeping birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck - and lying to cover-up THAT "terrible act" as you called it... HERE ARE THE FOUR OB LIES (they are whoppers) that support medicine's bizarre birth-canal-closing behavior: OB LIE #1. After MASSIVE change in the AP pelvic outlet diameter was clinically demonstrated in 1911 and radiographically demonstrated in 1957, the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that pelvic diamaters DON'T CHANGE at delivery. OB LIE #2. After Ohlsen pointed out in 1973 that pelvic diameters DO change - the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that their most frequent delivery position - dorsal - widens the outlet. OB LIE #3. After I pointed out in 1992 that dorsal CLOSES - and so does Semisitting [Gastaldo TD. Birth. 1992;19(4):230] - the authors of Williams Obstetrics - put the correct biomechanics in their 1993 edition - but kept in their text (in the same paragraph!) - the dorsal widens bald lie that first called my attention to their text... OB LIE #4. OBs are actually KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get stuck - and claiming they are doing everything to allow the birth canal open maximally - an indirect admisssion that obstetricians are KNOWINGLY closing birth canals the "extra" up to 30% routinely. (See the ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video. *Note also: forceps and vacuum births are performed with the mother in lithotomy, birth canal closed the "extra" up to 30%.) Rima, maybe you weren't aware of the LIES underlying what you called "terrible acts"?? Whatever - I urge you to end your hypocrisy and report the obvious child abuse - and urge other MDs to report. Write about your action on your website, www.healthfreedomusa.org. Urge Hypocrite/Obstetrician/Congressman Ron Paul, MD to report and speak out in Congress. Obstetricians are asphxiating babies - robbing them of up to 50% of their blood volume - ROUTINELY. And this baby blood robbery/asphyxiation happens after the routine birth-canal-closing asphyxiation which may cause brain bleeds. (An estimated 4.6% of "healthy" term babies are born with unexplained brain bleeds as MDs senselessly close birth canals the "extra" up to 30% - then rob massive amounts of baby blood.) These are indeed "terrible acts." EMERGENCY, RIMA...Just do the minimum required of you by law and state medical ethics (quoted above). Do it for health and freedom of babies... Thanks. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA Todd Gastaldo wrote: CODEX, BABIES AND CONGRESSMAN/OBSTETRICIAN RON PAUL, MD OPEN LETTER (archived for global access at http://groups.google.com) Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation Rima, I was pleased to see that Congressman/Obstetrician Ron Paul, MD helped you get the Codex briefing going. Sorry that the briefing now seems to have changed/disappeared. (Your post below was emailed to me via Jake.) Be advised: Congressman/Obstetrician Ron Paul, MD is a member of a specialty that is closing birth canals up to 30% and robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. See Libertarians: Crooked obstetrician Ron Paul, MD (also: Michael Badnarik for Congress) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3789 I hope that Congressman/Obstetrician Paul has not diverted his attention from the Codex briefing matter in order to perpetuate his speciality's obvious criminal negligence. I hope that your Natural Solutions Foundation will get the word out about the obstetric criminal negligence. I have asked that a few obstetricians be arrested... See Arresting obstetricians - Lt. Bill Hunt: 11165PC Suspected (Mass) Child Abuse Report http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3848 But I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. As med students, MDs are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies. You yourself were probably trained to close birth canals up to 30%. Please help stop this madness. Thanks, Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon RIMA LAIBOW, MD wrote: Whoops! The Codex Briefing is Now About Something Else! Which Forces Do You Think Have Been At Work? This is war. I've been saying that and perhaps some of you thought that I was merely using a figure of speech. No, there is a war on your health and your health freedom and the adversaries are very big and very, very rich. They use their power and wealth ruthlessly. Here's what just happened: snip PS- Get ready for our next big project: raising funds in new way on the Internet Rima, babies are being ASPHYXIATED en masse - both before birth (see The Four OB Lies) and after birth (see Dr. Morley's obviously illegal temporary baby asphyxiation experiment quoted above)... It would cost you nothing to report this obvious mass child abuse. It would cost you nothing to urge other MDs to report - right on your webpage. THAT should be your next project. You could do it in a day. First do the minimum to help stop the mass baby asphyxiation by your fellow MDs.... THEN move on to fundraising. (Incidentally, stopping the mass child abuse would nearly instantly save America BILLIONS per year.) Good luck in your CODEX battle. I encourage everyone to visit Rima's web page at: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ Thanks for reading everyone. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA This Open Letter to Rima Laibow, MD will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "'Terrible acts': Rima Laibow, MD - hypocrite - babies be damned." 
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September 14th 05, 07:39 PM
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"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message ... DR. LAIBOW "ALIENATED" BY DR. GASTALDO Women should not have to ASK for obstetricians not to rob their babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. Most women don't KNOW to ask. This mass baby blood robbery is happening to EVERY CESAREAN BABY - and in most "cord blood bank" vaginal births... It's MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION and it could end soon if MD-friendlies spoke out... So I risk further "alienating" an MD-friendly who emphasizes the term INNATE The average hematocrit is very high in the 55 to 60% on most babies I have seen and with very few nucleated red cells indicative of hypoxia. I can't see your point that babies are losing 50% of their blood supply and are being made hypoxic on average.
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September 14th 05, 08:35 PM
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HOLY BABIES WITH SLOWED HEARTS, BATMAN!
EXTREME BRADYCARDIA! IS "ROBERTSSONG" AN MD? I HOPE SO... See below. in article , Robert at wrote on 9/14/05 11:39 AM: "Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message ... DR. LAIBOW "ALIENATED" BY DR. GASTALDO Women should not have to ASK for obstetricians not to rob their babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. Most women don't KNOW to ask. This mass baby blood robbery is happening to EVERY CESAREAN BABY - and in most "cord blood bank" vaginal births... It's MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION and it could end soon if MD-friendlies spoke out... So I risk further "alienating" an MD-friendly who emphasizes the term INNATE The average hematocrit is very high in the 55 to 60% on most babies I have seen and with very few nucleated red cells indicative of hypoxia. I can't see your point that babies are losing 50% of their blood supply and are being made hypoxic on average. "RobertsSong" are you an MD? I hope so... I have seen the up to 50% figure in the medical literature... Here is "50%+" in an article by retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG... "ACOG's routine treatment (B138) of these depressed neonates is immediate cord clamping to obtain cord blood pH studies. *The child's only functioning source of oxygen - the placenta - is amputated together with 30% to 50+% of its natural blood volume. Total asphyxia is imposed until the lungs function, and the depressed (asphyxiated, hypovolemic) child starts its extra-uterine life in hypovolemic shock... B138 was first published in 1993. Every cesarean section baby, every depressed child, every premie, and every child born with a neonatal team in the delivery room has its cord clamped immediately to facilitate the panicked rush to the resuscitation table. The current epidemic of immediate cord clamping coincides with an epidemic of autism...For the trial lawyers, it is essential that the 'true genesis' of cerebral palsy remains unknown, because that 'true genesis' (B.138) is a standard of medico-legal care..." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm What if it's "only" 30%? Or "only" 20%? Or "only" 10%? EXTREME BRADYCARDIA... And what about MDs blithely causing extreme bradycardia, as in, "[E]xtreme bradycardia [heart rate under 80 bpm] is always an expression of fetal distress and is a consequence of reduced gas exchange at the placenta." --From CARDIOPULMONARY BYPASS IN PREGNANT PATIENTS. By Maria Helena L. Souza, CCP (BR)* & Decio O. Elias, MD** * Perfusionist / ** Pediatric Cardiac Surgeon http://perfline.com/textbook/local/pregnancy.html Dr. Morley blithely has obstetricians causing 60 bpm bradycardia! "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm RobertsSong - MD or not - do you suspect Dr. Morley's temporary baby asphyxiation experiment to be child abuse? Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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September 14th 05, 09:30 PM
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"Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message ... HOLY BABIES WITH SLOWED HEARTS, BATMAN! EXTREME BRADYCARDIA! IS "ROBERTSSONG" AN MD? I HOPE SO... Not an MD just somebody who can see through all that stuff, to call it mildly, that you have been posting. Get you head out of vaginas and baby pee-pees.
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September 14th 05, 10:13 PM
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ROBERTSSONG TRIVIALIZES MASS CHILD ABUSE..
See below. in article , Robert at wrote on 9/14/05 1:30 PM: "Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message ... HOLY BABIES WITH SLOWED HEARTS, BATMAN! EXTREME BRADYCARDIA! IS "ROBERTSSONG" AN MD? I HOPE SO... Not an MD just somebody who can see through all that stuff, to call it mildly, that you have been posting. Get you head out of vaginas and baby pee-pees. Robertssong, I once had my head in a vagina as the MD senselessly narrowed it and perhaps sliced it. I never had my head in a "baby pee-pee": though I once had an MD rip and slice my pee-pee. You are trivializing mass child abuse by MDs... I say again... ....what about MDs blithely causing extreme bradycardia, as in, "[E]xtreme bradycardia [heart rate under 80 bpm] is always an expression of fetal distress and is a consequence of reduced gas exchange at the placenta." --From CARDIOPULMONARY BYPASS IN PREGNANT PATIENTS. By Maria Helena L. Souza, CCP (BR)* & Decio O. Elias, MD** * Perfusionist / ** Pediatric Cardiac Surgeon http://perfline.com/textbook/local/pregnancy.html Dr. Morley blithely has obstetricians causing 60 bpm bradycardia! "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm Up to 50% of blood volume robbed - routinely. And Robertssong trivializes the obvious mass child abuse. Do you work in a hospital Robertssong? Todd
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September 14th 05, 10:14 PM
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Attention Oregon Atty Gen'l Hardy Myers via ...
Rima E. Laibow, MD suspects NUTRITIONAL child/teen/elder abuse discussed below - and I do too. Obviously though, mass baby asphxiation by MDs is the greater emergency. Please end it. (Dr. Laibow believes it to be a "terrible act.") DR. LAIBOW'S TRAIN OF LOGIC TAKES DIRT ROAD... See below. Usenetters, delete now or forever hold your peace. Attention Rima E. Laibow, MD: IN A NUTSHELL: 1. Women shouldn't have to ASK for the "extra" up to 50% of blood volume for their babies; 2. Most women don't KNOW to ask; 3. Babies must count on MDs (like Rima) who suspect child abuse to file MANDATORY reports. 4. Attorneys general (like Hardy, mentioned above) place a high value on reports from MDs. MDs are our cultural authorities in matters of obstetrics. (MDs can serve as expert witnesses - esp. obstetricians in the case of mass baby asphyxiation. The Four OB Lies are self-evident; Hardy shouldn't need MD-experts - but that is just the medico-"legal" "just us" system for you. Rima, I urge you to report - and to urge other MDs to report.) Further remarks to Dr. Laibow interspersed below ##### DR. LAIBOW'S TRAIN OF LOGIC TAKES A DIRT ROAD... ###### I wrote: RELEVANT AMA PRINCIPLES OF MEDICAL ETHICS.... "[AMA physician[s] shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in fraud or deception." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public..." http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm Relevant quote from the AMA website: "[P]hysicians must strive to ensure patient safety and should play a central role in identifying, reducing, and preventing health care errors. This responsibility exists even in the absence of a patient-physician relationship." http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/11968.html Rima, filing a report is the MINIMUM "striving" required by law when "terrible acts" against children are so much as SUSPECTED. ##### Rima E. Laibow, MD replied: Uh, hate to tell you but I don't belong to, or subscribe to, the AMA code of just about anything. Quoting it to me does not do much. ##### Rima, your train of logic takes a dirt road here. The **AMA** doesn't subscribe to the AMA Code of Ethics. So using your logic, you should consider subscribing - ESPECIALLY since - in accord with the AMA code - the law mandates that you report suspected child abuse. Further more, I did not take the Oath of Hippocrates (in case you were about to quote that to me). ##### Think LAW Rima. You suspect child abuse ("terrible acts") committed by your fellow MDs. You are mandated to report suspected child abuse. I took, and live by, the Oath of Maimonides which, #### Relevant phrase from the Oath of Maimonides: "...my lofty aim of doing good to Thy children." http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/rambam-oath.html ##### By law, when you suspect child abuse, "doing good to Thy children" is defined as reporting immediately. unlike the OH, does not prohibit me from cutting from gall stones or giving a pessary (e.g., birth control). ##### Is there an extra "from" in there somewhere? Those are just another couple of ways that I am different from most MDs. ##### You are IDENTICAL to most MDs in failing to report obvious mass child abuse by MDs. I was thinking after I wrote to you, why is it less important than birthing issues if all of the food available to pregnant mom and gestating fetus, and all of the food available to baby and family after birth is disease-inducing, toxic, tainted food and there are no natural products available to prevent, treat or cure the preventable diseases of chronic under nutrition and toxification that this tainted food produced since their use has been criminalized? ##### If you suspect abuse, you are mandated to report. Isn't that child (and teen and adult and geriatric) abuse? Isn't that worth reporting and taking the battle to the people over? ##### I will report by copying this email to Oregon Attorney Gen'l Hardy Myers via . Why does your concern for the welfare of humanity stop at the post partum period? ##### Surely you jest. You must not have read the post to which you responded. See below. Why aren't you going to school to become an MD or a DO or a midwife so you can personally make a difference? ###### This is monumental arrogance that derives from licensure. Licensure currently stifles innovation and creates a false "administrative" shield behind which MDs commit obvious crimes because law enforcement pretends with medical "science" that MDs should not be criminally prosecuted. ##### Licensure creates crooked political leverage which in turn increases drug profits and the drug profits sustain regulated/licensed MD drug salesmen who benefit from things like CODEX, I imagine. Get down from your high horse. ##### Ummm.... My horse is only "high" because I happen to be right. When child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED it is to be reported - immediately - IT'S THE LAW... I AM on your side, even if you make it really unpleasant to be there. ##### Rima, my "side" observes your fellow MDs committing MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION and you failing to do the minimum required of you by law to end it. My "side" does not think that in regard to the mass child abuse you are on my side - or on the side of babies... Take a moment to reflect that life is a web and so is wellness. The part of the web that you have staked out as most meaningful to you is only a part of the web. ###### You suspect child abuse ("terrible acts") - so you staked out the same part of the web - or rather - the LAW stakes it out for you. I could get all ****y over people who don't agree with me, too. No point to it, though. ###### You are ****ing on my shoe and telling me it is raining - as you **** on the child protection statutes - babies be damned. Get over your outrage and think strategically. Good strategy does not make enemies of natural friends! ###### The LAW's strategy is that you are MANDATED to report. The law does not say that you can fail to report if you regard as an enemy someone who is calling your attention to your legal reporting obligation. ##### Report and keep reporting until the MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION ends - and publicly urge your fellow MDs to do the same.... ###### JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT... Here is the mass baby asphyxiation discussed in an article by retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG... "ACOG's routine treatment (B138) of these depressed neonates is immediate cord clamping to obtain cord blood pH studies. *The child's only functioning source of oxygen - the placenta - is amputated together with 30% to 50+% of its natural blood volume. Total asphyxia is imposed until the lungs function, and the depressed (asphyxiated, hypovolemic) child starts its extra-uterine life in hypovolemic shock... B138 was first published in 1993. Every cesarean section baby, every depressed child, every premie, and every child born with a neonatal team in the delivery room has its cord clamped immediately to facilitate the panicked rush to the resuscitation table. The current epidemic of immediate cord clamping coincides with an epidemic of autism...For the trial lawyers, it is essential that the 'true genesis' of cerebral palsy remains unknown, because that 'true genesis' (B.138) is a standard of medico-legal care..." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm EXTREME BRADYCARDIA... "[E]xtreme bradycardia [heart rate under 80 bpm] is always an expression of fetal distress and is a consequence of reduced gas exchange at the placenta." --From CARDIOPULMONARY BYPASS IN PREGNANT PATIENTS. By Maria Helena L. Souza, CCP (BR)* & Decio O. Elias, MD** * Perfusionist / ** Pediatric Cardiac Surgeon http://perfline.com/textbook/local/pregnancy.html Dr. Morley blithely has obstetricians causing 60 bpm bradycardia! "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Laibow ##### Health and freedom? Again, your priority is your PROFESSIONAL health and freedom - babies' health and freedom be damned. ##### Rima, I am glad that you are writing. Keep writing and I will keep responding publicly the best I can. ##### I would rather, though, that you spend the time helping children by meeting your suspected child abuse reporting obligation - and urging your fellow MDs to do the same. ##### It would only take a second to email this to law enforcement and say "Dr. Gastaldo is right" - assuming you still believe the various OB crimes and OB cover-up lies are "terrible acts"... ##### Sincerely, ##### Your friend, ##### Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA in article , Todd Gastaldo at wrote on 9/14/05 11:01 AM: DR. LAIBOW "ALIENATED" BY DR. GASTALDO Women should not have to ASK for obstetricians not to rob their babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. Most women don't KNOW to ask. This mass baby blood robbery is happening to EVERY CESAREAN BABY - and in most "cord blood bank" vaginal births... It's MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION and it could end soon if MD-friendlies spoke out... So I risk further "alienating" an MD-friendly who emphasizes the term INNATE (yay Dr. Laibow!) http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/abou...director.shtml Rima, I do like your use of the term INNATE - but you are shirking a LEGAL obligation to children as your fellow MDs rob them of blood that Innate furnishes them - see below... Rima, my responses are interspersed ###### ------ Forwarded Message From: "Dr. Laibow" Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:59:24 -0400 To: Todd Gastaldo Subject: 'Terrible acts': Rima Laibow, MD - hypocrite - babies be damned - was Codex, babies and Congressman/Obstetrician Ron Paul, MD Todd, Hold it right there! You are way off the mark. ##### False. Mass baby asphyxiation is being committed by your fellow MDs - you call it a "terrible act" - you obviously suspect child abuse - yet you are failing to do the MINIMUM required of you by law and report. I fight for health and freedom and support others who do the same. ##### Good. Babies are being asphyxiated en masse. Do the minimum required by law - do it for the babies. I have a career long record of speaking out for exactly that regardless of the consequences. ##### Good. What is keeping you from reporting the mass baby asphyxiation and publicly urging your fellow MDs to report? Put it up on your web page. I have no idea why you are so aggressive toward someone who is on your side... ##### A friendly MD's failure to do the MINIMUM required by law to help is I imagine QUITE pleasant for law enforcement to observe. SHE's not even on his side they might say... and why you are spending your time attacking me for not focusing on exactly the same issue that you do. ##### I am focusing on the fact that you are ignoring a MANDATORY focus - babies be damned. MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION - plus other obvious "terrible acts" (your phrase) are being committed against babies by your fellow MDs - and you are failing to do the minimum to stop them. Sorry to say it, but your intolerant rage is mis-directed. ##### I suspect my "intolerant rage" is NOTHING compared to the rage a baby feels as s/he is pulled by the skull through a birth canal senselessly closed up to 30% or asphyxiated and robbed of up to 50% of his/her blood volume. Read the law. If you so much as SUSPECT child abuse ("terrible acts") - you are MANDATED to report. Anything less is intolerable - IT'S THE LAW. I am not a hypocrite: ##### Yes you are a hypocrite. You want PROFESSIONAL health and freedom from CODEX so you can practice and help your patients - but you are silent (in violation of the law!) about BABIES' health and freedom from "terrible acts"... there are quite enough people attacking us for us to not need to attack each other. ##### Please note: I support your CODEX fight. I do not support your failures to report suspected child abuse and publicly urge other MDs to do so. You are blithely failing to the the minimum required by law in the face of MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION. ##### Incidentally, failure to report suspected child abuse is a crime because it can perpetuate child abuse - attacks on children. Your failure to speak up about MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION is an indirect attack on children. Take a deep breath and remember that there are many paths to freedom: you fight on yours and I will support you. I will fight on mine and expect the same support from you. ##### You don't get it. When child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED - the path for freeing children from it is MANDATORY. Please immediately take that path and urge your fellow MDs to do the same until the MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION ends. I am equally appalled at the mandatory drugging of children (and adults) and see that as another major threat to health, life and liberty. Does that mean that since this is not your battle YOU are a hypocrite? ##### WHAT? You think as a chiro I am not opposed to mandatory drugging of children (and adults)?!! LOL! See Tell Congress to get the F out of the water! http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3881 See also: A dentist's child abuse crime (also: Pregnant citizens: URGENT) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3859 And see: CDC ruse: 'It's the thimerosal, stupid' - was Forced Vaccination http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3875 ##### Rima Laibow, MD continued... ...we each choose our battles and, all told, they ARE the Health Freedom War. ###### FALSE. When it is so much as SUSPECTED that children are being abused - there is no choice - reporting is MANDATORY - which accords with stated medical ethics quoted in my post to you, forwarded below. I hope you can calm down and stop acting so self righteously when there are allies all around you. ##### After all these years, I am quite calm. Children have mandatory "allies" who are (excuse my French) ****ing on the child protection statutes and screwing children. MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION - mass baby blood robbery - birth canals kept closed as MDs pull - these obvious crimes are being committed by MDs who are LYING to cover-up. Don't alienate them just because you are so involved with you battle that you can't tell the friend from the foe. ##### There is NOTHING in the child protection laws about ignoring one's obligation to report suspected child abuse because one feels "alienated" by someone calling attention to one's suspected child abuse reporting obligation. Yours in health and freedom, Rima E. Laibow, MD #### Again Rima - sorry to be blunt - you are a hypocrite. #### If you report the massive crimes as child abuse - and publicly urge your fellow MDs to do the same - I think you will be the first MD to do so. #### Use your INNATE ability to heal (nice phrase, nice INNATE emphasis, BTW)... http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/abou...director.shtml ###### Do the minimum required by law (and medical ethics) to stop MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION by your fellow MDs. ###### I say again... RELEVANT AMA PRINCIPLES OF MEDICAL ETHICS.... "[AMA physician[s] shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in fraud or deception." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public..." http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm Relevant quote from the AMA website: "[P]hysicians must strive to ensure patient safety and should play a central role in identifying, reducing, and preventing health care errors. This responsibility exists even in the absence of a patient-physician relationship." http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/11968.html Rima, filing a report is the MINIMUM "striving" required by law when "terrible acts" against children are so much as SUSPECTED. #### Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA This response to Dr. Laibow will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "Dr. Laibow 'alienated' by Dr. Gastaldo" in article , Todd Gastaldo at wrote on 9/14/05 8:54 AM: "TERRIBLE ACTS": RIMA LAIBOW, MD - HYPOCRITE - BABIES BE DAMNED PREGNANT WOMEN: There are SIMPLE things you can do to help your baby at delivery. See below. OPEN LETTER TO RIMA LAIBOW, MD... (archived for global access; search at http://groups.google.com) SHORT VERSION... Rima, to save time see the very end of this post... Sorry to be so blunt - calling you a hypocrite. Your CODEX project is important - but your fellow MDs are committing MASS BABY ASPHYXIATION - before and after birth. Your fellow MDs are LYING to cover-up what you call their "terrible acts"... The MD lies are OBVIOUS (see below). You are violating law and stated medical ethics (quoted below), helping to perpetuate what you call "terrible acts"... Women shouldn't have to ASK for the "extra" up to 30% of pelvic outlet area for their babies. Women shouldn't have to ask for the "extra" up to 50% of blood for their babies. I am sure that 100% of babies being asphyxiated would agree that the CODEX problem is a relatively minor emergency (though I see where CODEX could eventually become a major emergency in your professional natural healing practice). By focusing on CODEX, you are failing to do the minimum to stop the mass baby asphyxiation. You are demonstrating interest in your PROFESSIONAL "health and freedom" - babies' health and freedom be damned. You are a hypocrite. Again, sorry to be blunt - but it's true. LONG VERSION... Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation Rima, You wrote: snip I agree that unnatural birthing positions, bright lights, separation of mother and baby after birth, unanesthetized circumcision, prematurely clamping of the cord, etc. are all terrible acts. I was glad to see your use of the phrase "terrible acts"... Graphic descriptions of your euphemisms will help people understand why your euphemisms are misguided... 1. "UNNATURAL BIRTHING POSITIONS": Obstetricians are knowingly closing birth canals up to 30% - knowingly KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck - as they pull with hands, forceps and vacuums - sometimes pulling so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords. See the Four OB Lies below - they are whoppers... See also: RNs: 'Stitches, episiotomy, and postpartum complications' (Maternal care learning needs) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3725 2. "UNANESTHESIZED CIRCUMCISION": American medicine's mass ripping and slicing of infant penises abruptly went from "no medical indication" to "effective public health measure" (by voice vote and over the objections of a Scientific Board) immediately after I exposed American medicine's phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology. Even "anesthetized" circumcision/infant penis ripping and slicing is obvious child abuse. Even if the anesthesia was complete - and there were no wound pain after the anethesia wore off - it would still be child abuse. "Anesthetizing" a no medical indication procedure that sometimes kills or causes loss of penis does not stop it from being obvious child abuse. Look what happened when I called for an exemption from the child abuse laws for the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis... See Emerson on Circumcision; also: Africa and [Fore]skin Freaks (American MDs) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3774 3. "PREMATURELY CLAMPING THE CORD": Immediately amputating mother from baby, asphyxiating umbilical cord oxygen, forcing baby to breathe with lungs before ready, robbing baby of up to 50% of blood volume. Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG says this happens to EVERY CESAREAN BABY. It also happens in most "cord blood banking" vaginal births... Dr. Morley is recommending a sort of temporary baby strangling experiment to help obstetricians understand that they shouldn't permanently asphyxiate/deny umbilical cord oxygen and rob babies of massive amounts of blood... Here is Dr. Morley's temporary baby strangling experiment: "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/ac og-cp.htm PREGNANT WOMEN: To make sure your baby gets the "extra" up to 50% of blood volume, do not let the obstetrician or midwife clamp your baby's umbilical cord until it has stopped pulsating and your baby is pink and breathing and not in need of resuscitation. *Talk to your obstetrician or midwife today. Rima Laibow, MD continued... I am not sure they are child abuse since they are taught as good practice. It is OBVIOUS they are child abuse - complete with MD cover-up lies and obvious baby asphyxiation experiment (see above). That said, in accord with your "taught as good practice" observation, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. As medical students, MDs are TRAINED to perform these obvious felonies. The object is to make sure that the teaching changes Agreed - hence my call for pardons in advance for MDs. and the key there is the "customer". There are TWO "customers"... Women shouldn't have to ASK for the "extra" up to 30% of room in the birth canal for the second "customer"/baby; nor should women have to ask for the "extra" up to 50% of blood for the second "customer"/baby. Most women don't KNOW to ask - MDs are LYING to cover-up the crime. If women stop going to docs who do things wrong, they will change. They always do. Women are FORCED to "go to docs who do things wrong" - because the docs don't tell them they are doing things wrong - as they lord their legal medical/surgical monopoly over women. You say: "Health freedom means the freedom to choose your own health products, treatments, and practitioners. No one, government or corporation, should dictate or limit these choices." http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ Your birth-canal-closing profession USED government - is STILL using government - to deny women free access to HOMEBIRTH and Homebirth midwives... Consider Lamaze Birthing: empty delivery suites led to obstetrical enlightenment. Lamaze also advocated (may still advocate) semisitting/closing the birth canal up to 30%. "Obstetrical enlightenment" was obstetricians calling homebirth "child abuse"... Money talks. Money talks? So do Suspected Child Abuse Reports from MDs... You ignore obvious MD lies and fail to officially suspect the "terrible acts" as child abuse - or report them - babies be damned. You are in obvious violation of both law and medical ethics... RELEVANT AMA PRINCIPLES OF MEDICAL ETHICS.... "[AMA physician[s] shall...strive to expose those physicians...who engage in fraud or deception." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient." "[AMA p]hysician[s] shall...make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public..." http://www.psych.org/psych_pract/eth...nions53101.cfm Relevant quote from the AMA website: "[P]hysicians must strive to ensure patient safety and should play a central role in identifying, reducing, and preventing health care errors. This responsibility exists even in the absence of a patient-physician relationship." http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/11968.html Rima, filing a report is the MINIMUM "striving" required by law when "terrible acts" against children are so much as SUSPECTED. Thanks for your input. You are welcome. Thanks for your reply, such as it was... Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Laibow You are a hypocrite. Your priority is the health and freedom of your PROFESSION. Meanwhile your profession DENIES freedom (for example) by lying - and tying male babies to boards to rip and slice their penises...not to mention denying freedom by keeping birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck - and lying to cover-up THAT "terrible act" as you called it... HERE ARE THE FOUR OB LIES (they are whoppers) that support medicine's bizarre birth-canal-closing behavior: OB LIE #1. After MASSIVE change in the AP pelvic outlet diameter was clinically demonstrated in 1911 and radiographically demonstrated in 1957, the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that pelvic diamaters DON'T CHANGE at delivery. OB LIE #2. After Ohlsen pointed out in 1973 that pelvic diameters DO change - the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that their most frequent delivery position - dorsal - widens the outlet. OB LIE #3. After I pointed out in 1992 that dorsal CLOSES - and so does Semisitting [Gastaldo TD. Birth. 1992;19(4):230] - the authors of Williams Obstetrics - put the correct biomechanics in their 1993 edition - but kept in their text (in the same paragraph!) - the dorsal widens bald lie that first called my attention to their text... OB LIE #4. OBs are actually KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get stuck - and claiming they are doing everything to allow the birth canal open maximally - an indirect admisssion that obstetricians are KNOWINGLY closing birth canals the "extra" up to 30% routinely. (See the ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video. *Note also: forceps and vacuum births are performed with the mother in lithotomy, birth canal closed the "extra" up to 30%.) Rima, maybe you weren't aware of the LIES underlying what you called "terrible acts"?? Whatever - I urge you to end your hypocrisy and report the obvious child abuse - and urge other MDs to report. Write about your action on your website, www.healthfreedomusa.org. Urge Hypocrite/Obstetrician/Congressman Ron Paul, MD to report and speak out in Congress. Obstetricians are asphxiating babies - robbing them of up to 50% of their blood volume - ROUTINELY. And this baby blood robbery/asphyxiation happens after the routine birth-canal-closing asphyxiation which may cause brain bleeds. (An estimated 4.6% of "healthy" term babies are born with unexplained brain bleeds as MDs senselessly close birth canals the "extra" up to 30% - then rob massive amounts of baby blood.) These are indeed "terrible acts." EMERGENCY, RIMA...Just do the minimum required of you by law and state medical ethics (quoted above). Do it for health and freedom of babies... Thanks. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA Todd Gastaldo wrote: CODEX, BABIES AND CONGRESSMAN/OBSTETRICIAN RON PAUL, MD OPEN LETTER (archived for global access at http://groups.google.com) Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation Rima, I was pleased to see that Congressman/Obstetrician Ron Paul, MD helped you get the Codex briefing going. Sorry that the briefing now seems to have changed/disappeared. (Your post below was emailed to me via Jake.) Be advised: Congressman/Obstetrician Ron Paul, MD is a member of a specialty that is closing birth canals up to 30% and robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. See Libertarians: Crooked obstetrician Ron Paul, MD (also: Michael Badnarik for Congress) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3789 I hope that Congressman/Obstetrician Paul has not diverted his attention from the Codex briefing matter in order to perpetuate his speciality's obvious criminal negligence. I hope that your Natural Solutions Foundation will get the word out about the obstetric criminal negligence. I have asked that a few obstetricians be arrested... See Arresting obstetricians - Lt. Bill Hunt: 11165PC Suspected (Mass) Child Abuse Report http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3848 But I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. As med students, MDs are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies. You yourself were probably trained to close birth canals up to 30%. Please help stop this madness. Thanks, Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon RIMA LAIBOW, MD wrote: Whoops! The Codex Briefing is Now About Something Else! Which Forces Do You Think Have Been At Work? This is war. I've been saying that and perhaps some of you thought that I was merely using a figure of speech. No, there is a war on your health and your health freedom and the adversaries are very big and very, very rich. They use their power and wealth ruthlessly. Here's what just happened: snip PS- Get ready for our next big project: raising funds in new way on the Internet Rima, babies are being ASPHYXIATED en masse - both before birth (see The Four OB Lies) and after birth (see Dr. Morley's obviously illegal temporary baby asphyxiation experiment quoted above)... It would cost you nothing to report this obvious mass child abuse. It would cost you nothing to urge other MDs to report - right on your webpage. THAT should be your next project. You could do it in a day. First do the minimum to help stop the mass baby asphyxiation by your fellow MDs.... THEN move on to fundraising. (Incidentally, stopping the mass child abuse would nearly instantly save America BILLIONS per year.) Good luck in your CODEX battle. I encourage everyone to visit Rima's web page at: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ Thanks for reading everyone. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA This Open Letter to Rima Laibow, MD will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "'Terrible acts': Rima Laibow, MD - hypocrite - babies be damned."
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wrote: The average hematocrit is very high in the 55 to 60% on most babies I have seen and with very few nucleated red cells indicative of hypoxia. I can't see your point that babies are losing 50% of their blood supply and are being made hypoxic on average. In the last 5 years I have cared for exactly one neonate who didn't have his "blood robbed" immediately by an obstetrician at birth. (He was born at home.) He was incredibly polycythemic and had to be admitted for phototherapy just a few days later because of hyperbilirubinemia. He barely escaped an exchange transfusion. I sure hope obstetricians keep clamping cords right away. Go obstetricians! PF
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:01:33 GMT, Todd Gastaldo
wrote: DR. LAIBOW "ALIENATED" BY DR. GASTALDO [Dr. Laibow writes:] I have no idea why you are so aggressive toward someone who is on your side... and why you are spending your time attacking me for not focusing on exactly the same issue that you do. [...} I hope you can calm down and stop acting so self righteously when there are allies all around you. Don't alienate them just because you are so involved with you battle that you can't tell the friend from the foe. Well put, Dr. Laibow. This has been a prevailing theme to Gastaldo's interactions on the Usenet for, what, 15 years now? Gastaldo will never, ever, win or acknowledge any useful allies to make any substantial changes in obstetrical practice that he wants. Never. And this is only because of his tactics -- it has nothing to do with the veracity of his arguments. He is and always will be doomed to utter failure. Mark my words. PF
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PEDIATRICIAN CHEERLEADS CHILD ABUSE...
Pseudonymous usenet pediatrician PF Riley, MD wrote: snip anecdote I sure hope obstetricians keep clamping cords right away. Go obstetricians! Perhaps PF Riley, MD cheerleads for child abuse/routine asphyxiation of babies because he is embarrassed that his fellow pediatricians (neonatologists) aid and abet obstetricians in the obvious mass child abuse crime... Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG indicates that "every child born with a neonatal team in the delivery room" is asphyxiated: "ACOG's routine treatment (B138) of these depressed neonates is immediate cord clamping to obtain cord blood pH studies. *The child's only functioning source of oxygen - the placenta - is amputated together with 30% to 50+% of its natural blood volume. Total asphyxia is imposed until the lungs function, and the depressed (asphyxiated, hypovolemic) child starts its extra-uterine life in hypovolemic shock... B138 was first published in 1993. Every cesarean section baby, every depressed child, every premie, and every child born with a neonatal team in the delivery room has its cord clamped immediately to facilitate the panicked rush to the resuscitation table. The current epidemic of immediate cord clamping coincides with an epidemic of autism...For the trial lawyers, it is essential that the 'true genesis' of cerebral palsy remains unknown, because that 'true genesis' (B.138) is a standard of medico-legal care..." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm OBSTETRICIANS ARE KNOWINGLY CAUSING FETAL DISTRESS - EXTREME BRADYCARDIA - slowing the heart - as in - "[E]xtreme bradycardia [heart rate under 80 beats per minute] is always an expression of fetal distress and is a consequence of reduced gas exchange at the placenta." --From CARDIOPULMONARY BYPASS IN PREGNANT PATIENTS. By Maria Helena L. Souza, CCP (BR)* & Decio O. Elias, MD** * Perfusionist / ** Pediatric Cardiac Surgeon http://perfline.com/textbook/local/pregnancy.html Dr. Morley blithely has obstetricians causing 60 beat per minute TEMPORARY bradycardia - to help obstetricians demonstrate to themselves why they shouldn't PERMANENTLY deny umbilical oxygen and rob babies of blood: "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm Pediatrician KC Finkel once noted that pediatricians are guilty of failing to report child abuse: "What a terrible indictment...guilty of failing those for whom we have chosen to be advocates." [Finkel KC: The failure to report child abuse. AJDC, 1986;140:329-330] Failure to report child abuse is a child abuse crime because it can perpetuate child abuse. THINK ABOUT IT... 1. Instead of reporting the obvious mass baby blood robbery child abuse, Dr. Morley has obstetricians performing a TEMPORARY baby asphyxiation child abuse experiment (see above)... 2. Pseudonymous usenet pediatrician PF Riley, MD not only fails to report - he publicly CHEERLEADS the obvious crime, saying: "I sure hope obstetricians keep clamping cords right away. Go obstetricians!" As always, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. As medical students, MDs are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies that harm and sometimes kill children.... Law enforcement is looking the other way - babies be damned. See Arresting obstetricians - Lt. Bill Hunt: 11165PC Suspected (Mass) Child Abuse Report http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3848 Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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