NV Shortage of Fosters a LIE

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Denise Saunders, Anchor
Foster Parents Speak Out About Broken System

June 12, 2006, 11:10 PM

Overcrowded conditions at Child Haven have county officials stepping up
recruitment efforts for more foster families. But that plea has some
current foster parents angry because they've been waiting more than a
year for a child to be placed in their home.

Eyewitness News has protected their identity -- for fear of retribution
for speaking out -- so they could share their views on the foster care
crisis.

Foster parent: "Everything that we are reading in the paper and seeing
in the media is not black and white. We are a broken system."

These foster parents feel betrayed by a system that is supposed to
bring families together. They all have licenses to foster children, so
they don't understand why they haven't been contacted by the county
about possible placement considering child haven is overflowing.

Foster parent: "They are full of crap. They are full of crap. There are
so many people. I could find probably find a dozen homes for children
in the snap of my finger already licensed."

Their experience has taught them it's all a game of caseworkers and
supervisors playing favorites.

Foster parent: "You're punished constantly. If you speak up to the
wrong worker, they'll just by word of mouth. You won't get kids."

Foster parent: "There are a selected few that they are picking and they
are not picking the one's that can really help and really want to
help."

These foster parents, or potential foster parents, say their calls to
the county constantly go unanswered. Their concerns and questions are
buried in a system that seems riddled with red tape.

Foster parent: "Clean house. Get rid of the slack. Get rid of the
duplication of efforts. I've filled out the same paperwork probably 17
times."

Despite their frustrations, these foster parents say they won't give up
because they believe someone needs to fight for the rights of these
young children.

Foster parent: "I could love another one and there are kids out there
that are looking for love. Sometimes social services doesn't look at
the love that a child needs. And that's what keeps I think most of us
in here. Because we do care and we do want it to happen."

The foster parents Eyewitness News spoke with say another problem with
the process is that there are too many licensing categories, which
often limits where children can be placed temporarily or permanently.

I was wondering why you did not put title of article in( Foster
Parents Speak Out About Broken} in subject line.
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Denise Saunders, Anchor
Foster Parents Speak Out About Broken System

June 12, 2006, 11:10 PM

Overcrowded conditions at Child Haven have county officials stepping up
recruitment efforts for more foster families. But that plea has some
current foster parents angry because they've been waiting more than a
year for a child to be placed in their home.

Eyewitness News has protected their identity -- for fear of retribution
for speaking out -- so they could share their views on the foster care
crisis.

Foster parent: "Everything that we are reading in the paper and seeing
in the media is not black and white. We are a broken system."

These foster parents feel betrayed by a system that is supposed to
bring families together. They all have licenses to foster children, so
they don't understand why they haven't been contacted by the county
about possible placement considering child haven is overflowing.

Foster parent: "They are full of crap. They are full of crap. There are
so many people. I could find probably find a dozen homes for children
in the snap of my finger already licensed."

Their experience has taught them it's all a game of caseworkers and
supervisors playing favorites.

Foster parent: "You're punished constantly. If you speak up to the
wrong worker, they'll just by word of mouth. You won't get kids."

Foster parent: "There are a selected few that they are picking and they
are not picking the one's that can really help and really want to
help."

These foster parents, or potential foster parents, say their calls to
the county constantly go unanswered. Their concerns and questions are
buried in a system that seems riddled with red tape.

Foster parent: "Clean house. Get rid of the slack. Get rid of the
duplication of efforts. I've filled out the same paperwork probably 17
times."

Despite their frustrations, these foster parents say they won't give up
because they believe someone needs to fight for the rights of these
young children.

Foster parent: "I could love another one and there are kids out there
that are looking for love. Sometimes social services doesn't look at
the love that a child needs. And that's what keeps I think most of us
in here. Because we do care and we do want it to happen."

The foster parents Eyewitness News spoke with say another problem with
the process is that there are too many licensing categories, which
often limits where children can be placed temporarily or permanently.
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Denise Saunders, Anchor
Foster Parents Speak Out About Broken System

June 12, 2006, 11:10 PM

Overcrowded conditions at Child Haven have county officials stepping up
recruitment efforts for more foster families. But that plea has some
current foster parents angry because they've been waiting more than a
year for a child to be placed in their home.

Eyewitness News has protected their identity -- for fear of retribution
for speaking out -- so they could share their views on the foster care
crisis.

Foster parent: "Everything that we are reading in the paper and seeing
in the media is not black and white. We are a broken system."

These foster parents feel betrayed by a system that is supposed to
bring families together. They all have licenses to foster children, so
they don't understand why they haven't been contacted by the county
about possible placement considering child haven is overflowing.

Foster parent: "They are full of crap. They are full of crap. There are
so many people. I could find probably find a dozen homes for children
in the snap of my finger already licensed."

Their experience has taught them it's all a game of caseworkers and
supervisors playing favorites.

Foster parent: "You're punished constantly. If you speak up to the
wrong worker, they'll just by word of mouth. You won't get kids."

Foster parent: "There are a selected few that they are picking and they
are not picking the one's that can really help and really want to
help."

These foster parents, or potential foster parents, say their calls to
the county constantly go unanswered. Their concerns and questions are
buried in a system that seems riddled with red tape.

Foster parent: "Clean house. Get rid of the slack. Get rid of the
duplication of efforts. I've filled out the same paperwork probably 17
times."

Despite their frustrations, these foster parents say they won't give up
because they believe someone needs to fight for the rights of these
young children.

Foster parent: "I could love another one and there are kids out there
that are looking for love. Sometimes social services doesn't look at
the love that a child needs. And that's what keeps I think most of us
in here. Because we do care and we do want it to happen."

The foster parents Eyewitness News spoke with say another problem with
the process is that there are too many licensing categories, which
often limits where children can be placed temporarily or permanently.

These then would be the same "foster parents" that you and others wish
to claim kill and injury their foster children at a rate higher than the
general population?

Greg, about 90% of the crap above is exactly that.

Foster parents, like anyone, hate having to go through the exercise of
certification.

Not all are qualified to handle the most difficult children with high
needs. (Which, by the way, bring in the most foster subsidy...0:-)

I have heard the litany for ages from those foster parents NOT allowed
to take the more high needs children in larger numbers.

THOSE are the foster parents that in fact ARE what you and other
assholes claim they are...the greedy.

Of course they are no one's "favorites."

They also blather about "loving the child," when in fact those are the
one's showing the least amount of real love and concern for the child
and his FAMILY.

Real foster parents don't come on like the above, Greg.

And anyone with a brain knows that people don't all come with the same
skills and capacities.

The reason children aren't placed with some of them is they cannot
handle the child as they are with the needs they have...though they
could do a fair job with other children with different or lessor needs.

Problem these days, Greg, is the that PARENTS THAT ABUSE that you like
to excuse and help, are doing so much damage to their children that more
and more of the population in foster care IS high needs.

One of the reasons for NOT using a foster family is their own children.
They may NOT be safe around some foster children. No worker with a brain
is going to place a sexually predatory child (and there are plenty) in a
home with younger children..not even children close to their own age.

No one is going to place a child that's a fire setter in a home where
the foster parent is not trained, and they house is not rigged and setup
to deal with a firesetter (no accelerators, no incindiary devices..etc.
That means no matches, no lighters, and not even nail polish in the
house..these families can't even have a wood stove or fireplace.). And
the bedrooms must all be alarmed, with the alarms sealed so they cannot
be tampered with. Imagine the cost.

Should these children be in an institution? CPS thinks they need a
family life if they are to recover. I TREATED CHILDREN LIKE THIS.

You have been suckered YET AGAIN.

Lots of "nice folks" try to become foster parents. Nowadays they will
SUE if you tell them they cannot be. No matter how unfit they are. So
you have to train them and certify them, but one thing...you do NOT have
to use them.

Thank goodness CPS is being so careful.

Overcrowding is not as bad as having children abuse -- and you can be
sure a foster parent would sue the hell out of the state if a foster
child abused one of their own.

AND, even MORE likely, the foster child involve the bio child of the
foster parents in activities that makes the THEM a child abuser.

That DOES happen. So CPS won't place any but appropriate children with
the appropriate foster family.

Remember, CPS doesn't put an add in the paper with "salary" and
qualifications and have droves of people applying.

Most parents out there could NOT handle being a foster parent. It is way
too demanding, as this story does have THAT bit of truth buried in there.

And no one fills out the same forms 17 times...dummy. Except on children
in their home to the number of 17. In other words, they are required to
keep the same records on all children that they foster over time.

It's a lot more than 17 for some families.

This is a piece of crap article, as usual.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Foster families fill urgent need
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:27:29 GMT
From: wexwimpy
Newsgroups: alt.support.foster-parents


Foster families fill urgent need
06/13/2006
By Kym Soper , Journal Inquirer

"Just being removed from your home is traumatic enough, never mind
possibly losing your brother or sister too," DCF social worker
Kevin Howell-Levine says during a recent visit to the boys.

Like many brothers, Nicholaus and Alexander, whose last names are
being withheld at DCF's request, can be as different as night
and day.

Tawny-haired with hazel eyes, the older boy is a baseball fan and a
budding Picasso who draws colorfully crayoned pictures of
dinosaurs and fish.

Blond and blue-eyed, the younger of the two says basketball is his
sport and he loves writing long sentences, snapping off complex
prose far beyond the ability of most first-graders.

They do share some similarities, however - both have freckles, love
recess and gym, NASCAR racing, and heavy metal music,
saying KISS, Bon Jovi, and Ozzy Osborne are their favorite groups.

After school, homework, and a quick snack, adventure beckons in their
wooded 3-acre back yard. And they show off, with pride, their
battle scars: skinned knees and elbows from occasional falls off
bicycles and trees.

They have their spats and like to wrestle about, as most young
siblings do, but if one were to be threatened by a bully, the other
would rally to the rescue.

"If anybody even tried to punch my brother - hello, goodbye!"
Nicholaus says, making an exaggerated punch in the air with his fist.

Both boys say they are happy with their foster home. Their foster
mother, Katherine Keyes-Noto, is really nice and she has six of her
own children there to play with, they say.
But both admit they miss being with their mom and dad.

"It's hard," says Alexander, casting his eyes down to watch his
sneaker-clad toe worry a patch of loose grass.

But if he had also been separated from his brother, "it would be a lot
harder," he adds, flashing bright eyes upward.

No easy task

According to the latest figures from DCF, 4,519 children in
Connecticut were living in the foster care system as of June 7, either
in a
licensed foster home like Nicholaus and Alexander or with relatives
other than their mothers or fathers.

More than half, or 2,621, have a sister or brother who is also in DCF
care, but only 1,049 of those children have been placed in the
same home as their siblings.

The others have been separated for a variety of reasons, officials
say.

"Some of the kids are not together for clinical reasons, or it could
be that one child has victimized his siblings," DCF spokeswoman
Lisa Flower-Murphy says.

A child sometimes may need intensive mental health services or have a
chronic medical condition that requires high-level nursing
care, and there are a limited number of foster homes licensed to deal
with those problems, officials say.

DCF spokesman Gary Kleeblatt adds, "It depends on a lot of different
factors: how many siblings there are, what their individual
issues and needs are, and what the foster family is licensed for. It
has to be on a case-by-case basis, and I think foster families are
very flexible and do a lot for the best interest of the kids in their
home."

Keyes-Noto knows plenty about being flexible.

In order to keep Nicholaus and Alexander together, she and her husband
gave up their master bedroom and now sleep in a much
smaller space plastered with green-and-yellow John Deere tractor
wallpaper.

The smaller room had belonged to her three boys, and with two bunk
beds taking up most of the space, only one more boy could
snugly fit. Now, the bunk beds and a twin for all five boys have taken
over her master bedroom retreat, and she and her husband are
dreaming about farmland.

A foster parent since 2001, Keyes-Noto grew up in such an environment
and thinks nothing of the sacrifice.

"My parents did this, had a lot of foster and adopted kids when I was
growing up," Keyes-Noto says. It can be chaotic at times, and
quite the balancing act trying to provide structure to lives ripped
apart, she admits.

But the benefits outweigh the disadvantages, she says, noting that her
mother now has 21 grandchildren to boast of.

"We do it for the kids," she says. "To this day I still can't imagine
not opening your home to a child you don't know who's in need."

Right now the most pressing needs in foster care are homes for
teenagers and adolescents, children of color, and children with
medically complex conditions, Flower-Murphy says.

"Because those kids possess special kinds of challenges, they're more
difficult to place," she says.

According to DCF figures, the average age of a child in the foster
care system is 11 years, with an average length of stay of 22
months.

Foster parents must be at least 21, and complete training and criminal
background checks before becoming licensed.

For more information about foster care or becoming a foster parent,
contact the DCF information line at 1-888-KIDHERO.


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Wex:

Broken CPS is not news,
see recent GA debacle.

But Fosters pointing out that the ""shortage""
of fosters is a lie, that is more precious.

the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton, Massachusetts is being
investigated for injuries caused to autistic
children...............disruptive children have reportedly been
subjected to "aversive therapy" consisting of electric shocks that
produce pain similar to a bee sting..............

wrote:
the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton, Massachusetts is being
investigated for injuries caused to autistic
children...............disruptive children have reportedly been
subjected to "aversive therapy" consisting of electric shocks that
produce pain similar to a bee sting..............

Possibly you and Greg should discuss aversive cold showers. He seems to
think it will stop his own incontinence as he claimed it stopped a
little girl from peeing herself.

0:-


--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

But doesn't this fit right in with your theories
about TASERING children, Kane?


0:- wrote:
wrote:
the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton, Massachusetts is being
investigated for injuries caused to autistic
children...............disruptive children have reportedly been
subjected to "aversive therapy" consisting of electric shocks that
produce pain similar to a bee sting..............

Possibly you and Greg should discuss aversive cold showers. He seems to
think it will stop his own incontinence as he claimed it stopped a
little girl from peeing herself.

0:-


--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

Greegor wrote:
But doesn't this fit right in with your theories
about TASERING children, Kane?

What would these theories of mine be, Greg?

If you read the ONLY instances I've ever discussed this issue you would
find two of the three were life saving, and the third an instance where
an aggressive teen attacked duly authorized school personnel and they
were protecting themselves.

So again, Greg, you are lying.

I've never approved of Tasering children.

I do have a theory that supports the use of the Taser to save a child's
life, or to protect others from being injured.

It's called the "Don't Be a Stupid Greg," (...and do things to hurt
yourself and others).

0:-




0:- wrote:
wrote:
the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton, Massachusetts is being
investigated for injuries caused to autistic
children...............disruptive children have reportedly been
subjected to "aversive therapy" consisting of electric shocks that
produce pain similar to a bee sting..............
Possibly you and Greg should discuss aversive cold showers. He seems to
think it will stop his own incontinence as he claimed it stopped a
little girl from peeing herself.

0:-


--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)



--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

Shortage of Foster Care contractors is a lie say licensed Fosters!
Nevada

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Denise Saunders, Anchor
Foster Parents Speak Out About Broken System

June 12, 2006, 11:10 PM

Overcrowded conditions at Child Haven have county officials stepping up
recruitment efforts for more foster families. But that plea has some
current foster parents angry because they've been waiting more than a
year for a child to be placed in their home.

Eyewitness News has protected their identity -- for fear of retribution
for speaking out -- so they could share their views on the foster care
crisis.

Foster parent: "Everything that we are reading in the paper and seeing
in the media is not black and white. We are a broken system."

These foster parents feel betrayed by a system that is supposed to
bring families together. They all have licenses to foster children, so
they don't understand why they haven't been contacted by the county
about possible placement considering child haven is overflowing.

Foster parent: "They are full of crap. They are full of crap. There are
so many people. I could find probably find a dozen homes for children
in the snap of my finger already licensed."

Their experience has taught them it's all a game of caseworkers and
supervisors playing favorites.

Foster parent: "You're punished constantly. If you speak up to the
wrong worker, they'll just by word of mouth. You won't get kids."

Foster parent: "There are a selected few that they are picking and they
are not picking the one's that can really help and really want to
help."

These foster parents, or potential foster parents, say their calls to
the county constantly go unanswered. Their concerns and questions are
buried in a system that seems riddled with red tape.

Foster parent: "Clean house. Get rid of the slack. Get rid of the
duplication of efforts. I've filled out the same paperwork probably 17
times."

Despite their frustrations, these foster parents say they won't give up
because they believe someone needs to fight for the rights of these
young children.

Foster parent: "I could love another one and there are kids out there
that are looking for love. Sometimes social services doesn't look at
the love that a child needs. And that's what keeps I think most of us
in here. Because we do care and we do want it to happen."

The foster parents Eyewitness News spoke with say another problem with
the process is that there are too many licensing categories, which
often limits where children can be placed temporarily or permanently.