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keeping track of libary books
I knew this was going to happen. It took three months. We can't find a
library book. I was lucky to ask about it today, they were able to extend the due date. As a parent, how do I balance the need to "find" the book and get the kids to understand that we need to keep the books in their basket so we can return them? Karen G |
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Karen G writes:
I knew this was going to happen. It took three months. We can't find a library book. I was lucky to ask about it today, they were able to extend the due date. As a parent, how do I balance the need to "find" the book and get the kids to understand that we need to keep the books in their basket so we can return them? It seems to me that it's pretty much just a financial issue. How much does it cost to lose the occasional book; how important is that in the scope of your family finances. Borrowing books from the library is still way cheaper than buying them, even if you lose an occasional book and pay for it. The money you pay goes to a worthwhile cause (supporting the library). So I wouldn't get worked up over it, unless you can't afford it. Of course, that's just one opinion. David desJardins |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:36:32 EDT, David desJardins
wrote: It seems to me that it's pretty much just a financial issue. How much does it cost to lose the occasional book; how important is that in the scope of your family finances. Borrowing books from the library is still way cheaper than buying them, even if you lose an occasional book and pay for it. The money you pay goes to a worthwhile cause (supporting the library). So I wouldn't get worked up over it, unless you can't afford it. Of course, that's just one opinion. David desJardins The money isn't an issue. I think its a "pride" problem on my part more than anything to be honest. I absolutely can't stand losing things and I love finding things. As a parent, the main thing I want to do is make sure that my girls get the sense that you should put things back where they go so that you can find them when you need it--be it shoes, jackets, books, or toys. Karen |
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"David desJardins" wrote in message ... (...) In that case, I probably wouldn't emphasize library books as an example of that. To me, when you talk about lost library books, the emphasis is on your obligation to the lender, and on not losing things for that reason. (...) I would also add that it is probably good to emphasize the obligation to the lender includes returning the books in good condition and (when possible), promptly, so that others can use them. Jeff |
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Easy. When my kids were younger, library books were kept in the same spot in
the living room where they could be seen. If they neglected to put them there, when we found them, they were not permitted to take any other books out of the library for X amount of time. It didn't take long for them to learn that library books stayed in the living room or were returned there. Marijke in Montreal "Karen G" wrote in message ... I knew this was going to happen. It took three months. We can't find a library book. I was lucky to ask about it today, they were able to extend the due date. As a parent, how do I balance the need to "find" the book and get the kids to understand that we need to keep the books in their basket so we can return them? Karen G |
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David desJardins wrote in :
I love finding things. As a parent, the main thing I want to do is make sure that my girls get the sense that you should put things back where they go so that you can find them when you need it--be it shoes, jackets, books, or toys. With shoes and jackets, you make sure it is easy to put them away, with hooks they can reach. It has to be convenient for where you come in the door - if you expect them to keep their outdoor clothes in their bedrooms then they will never get put away. Then you nag them to do it whenever you come in, until it is an ingrained habit. Books and toys are harder to deal with: my kids don't want to put them away, because they are permanently "in the middle of a game". In that case, I probably wouldn't emphasize library books as an example of that. To me, when you talk about lost library books, the emphasis is on your obligation to the lender, and on not losing things for that Library books are difficult, because you often read them over a few days, and they need to be convenient for that. I suppose you have to insist they put them in the basket when they have finished with them. And if the kid lost it, make the kid pay the fines. -- Penny Gaines UK mum to three |
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In article , David desJardins wrote:
Karen G writes: The money isn't an issue. I think its a "pride" problem on my part more than anything to be honest. I absolutely can't stand losing things and I love finding things. As a parent, the main thing I want to do is make sure that my girls get the sense that you should put things back where they go so that you can find them when you need it--be it shoes, jackets, books, or toys. In that case, I probably wouldn't emphasize library books as an example of that. To me, when you talk about lost library books, the emphasis is on your obligation to the lender, and on not losing things for that reason. I agree that the emphasis with library books is that they are not ours, so we have to be extra careful with them. We keep ours on top of the piano, and go through the stack of books on the floor at least once a week looking for library books that may not have made it back there. Nor would I emphasize shoes or jackets and the like, because, in practice, most of the inconvenience from losing those things falls on you, not them. (Most of the time, you'll have to help find those things, to keep on your own schedule.) The area where the point is going to be clearest is regarding their own things that are important to them: toys are a good example. Help them to establish clear places to put things (much clutter arises, imho, because there isn't an appropriate place for something, or because the place that's been assigned to it is already too cluttered or inconvenient). Not in our house. Clutter arises because projects don't get finished---all of us have things scattered all over that we are "still working on". Having a place for things is important (there is no way we could put all the books away---we're short about 50 shelf feet for that), but it is not the most important thing. To have a neat house, everyone must believe that a neat house is important, that it is worth putting in the effort to achieve, and that it is more important than conflicting goals (like having lots of stuff or having all one's art materials spread out for simultaneous viewing, or being able to move from project to project without setup and cleanup overhead, or collecting found objects when you take walks, ...). Although there are times when I wished I lived in neater surroundings, I have not been willing to make the sacrifices that would be necessary to allow it to happen. And set an example by doing the same with your own things. This may be the most important, and it is certainly where our household falls down on neatness. None of us are good about putting things away. But we ARE good about returning library books, and rarely lose clothing (one stolen lunch box and one jacket are about all we've lost in 2 years years of public schools). Some lessons do stick though---my son much prefers playing with my lego set to playing with his, because all the fiddly lego technic pieces are sorted into a fishing tackle box, and it is easy to find the ones we need. He is pretty good about about helping sort out the pieces when we take something apart also, because he sees the value of a neatly arranged parts bin. He keeps his K'nex well sorted in a fishing tackle box also, but his lego collection has too many one-of-a-kind pieces (mainly from garage sale finds---we'd never buy the builds-only-one thing junk that lego is pushing). Incidentally, lego has finally recognized how much they were ****ing parents off with their recent "trading-card" mentality and have started offering "designer kits" that are versatile and inspire creativity. I haven't bought one yet, but probably will for this holiday season---they look reasonably priced and well designed. I don't know if the stores will have them---you may have to go to the lego catalog or on-line. -- Kevin Karplus http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels) Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed) Professor of Computer Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics Affiliations for identification only. |
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You sound very organized We have library books scattered hither and yon all over our house, mostly because everyone reads books in about 4 or 5 separate locations. We have temporarily lost a couple books, and even paid for one that we subsequently unearthed somewhere in the house (We got the $4.99 back). Currently we have a copy of Nickelodeon magazine gone missing in the house somewhere (my wife swears it was returned -- maybe so, but the library doesn't think so). We are fortunate that the Madison library does not charge overdue fines for kids' books/magazines. And you can check due dates/renew online. I guess my suggestion to the OP: You can't keep track of everything, and you should accept that and pay the fines that come your way. Think of it as supporting the library Scott DD 10 and DS 7, just finished reading 'Stiff' Marijke wrote: Easy. When my kids were younger, library books were kept in the same spot in the living room where they could be seen. If they neglected to put them there, when we found them, they were not permitted to take any other books out of the library for X amount of time. It didn't take long for them to learn that library books stayed in the living room or were returned there. Marijke in Montreal "Karen G" wrote in message ... I knew this was going to happen. It took three months. We can't find a library book. I was lucky to ask about it today, they were able to extend the due date. As a parent, how do I balance the need to "find" the book and get the kids to understand that we need to keep the books in their basket so we can return them? Karen G |
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:10:29 EDT, in article , said... I knew this was going to happen. It took three months. We can't find a library book. I was lucky to ask about it today, they were able to extend the due date. As a parent, how do I balance the need to "find" the book and get the kids to understand that we need to keep the books in their basket so we can return them? My library in the city generated a computer slip with each checkout with the title and the dates of the book. If you had something like that, I'd have a place to post these things. I could also renew via automated phone answering robot. My library in the country still stamps the books with the due date. In the old days, my mom would take us (walking) to the library once a week. She could get 10 books, we could get two each. We picked out our two, she picked out two for herself, and then she picked out 8 more - some to read aloud and some for us to read to ourselves. I don't remember how she kept us from losing the books. Basically I usually finished mine very quickly, so it wasn't a problem with not having finished them. When my kids started to go to the library, I got a list of books for young people, and I'd go up to the library (very small rural library) once a week and do an interlibrary loan for a couple of books, pick up the ones I'd ordered and give them to my kids to read, and return them the next week and repeat. I don't remember there ever being an issue with library books. I don't know if that's because I've blocked out the memory or if we in fact didn't have any problem. Or both. I did have more of a problem with SCHOOL library books getting lost somewhere. i.e. books that the children took out of the school library when I wasn't there so I didn't know what they had taken out, or even that the book was a library book. grandma Rosalie |
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