coxsackie virus question

HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks

Danny wrote:

HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks



have they checked for kawasaki syndrome? much more serious and needs
early treatment if it is -- symptoms sound like it and lots of peds have
never seen it -- on the other hand if there is an epidemic of coxsackie
- that is probably it

"Danny" wrote in message
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HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser
degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks


Sounds to me like impetigo.
Nancy

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:10:47 -0400, "Nancy P"
wrote:

"Danny" wrote in message
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HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser
degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks

Sounds to me like impetigo.
Nancy

How could you possibly make that claimed based on the distribution of
the rash only, especially given an unlikely epidemiologic scenario for
impetigo?

PF

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:50:10 -0500, jenn wrote:

Danny wrote:

HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks

have they checked for kawasaki syndrome? much more serious and needs
early treatment if it is -- symptoms sound like it and lots of peds have
never seen it -- on the other hand if there is an epidemic of coxsackie
- that is probably it

Kawasaki disease causes high, prolonged fevers, typically near 104,
for over 5 days, along with mouth lesions. Danny specifically said the
child has no fever and no oral lesions. Also, Kawasaki disease does
not cause epidemics in daycares. Therefore, one can decidedly say that
this child does NOT have Kawasaki disease.

Furthermore, one cannot "check" for Kawasaki disease, as it is solely
a clinical diagnosis. There is no confirmatory test.

Finally, I have never met a pediatrician who has not seen Kawasaki
disease, and I know many, many pediatricians.

PF

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:36:39 GMT, "Danny"
wrote:

HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

To answer your question: Yes, yes it could.

PF

There was a news feature about this. Coxsackie can be spread by exposure to
fecal matter. Your kids come in contact with fecal matter when they go in
kiddie pools.

You think the "swim diapers" keep the fecal matter out of the water?

They don't! Kids crapping in their diapers are nothing more than little
teabags.
The pool chemicals ARE NOT strong enough to dissolve fecal matter.

Go to this page and scroll down for the following title.

http://cbsnewyork.com/topvideos/

July 12, 2004
Dr. David Marks has more on a summer virus affecting kids, Coxsackie Virus.





"Danny" wrote in message
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HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser
degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks

On 14 Jul 2004 07:38:44 -0700, (Silvasurfa)
wrote:

"Danny" wrote in message et...
HI all

I have a son at 8 months who seems to have the coxsackie virus. It is all
over his daycare. But the ped said it is not classic C as he does have a
rash on feet, hands (classic) as well as buttocks, legs, to a lesser degree
on the stomach andchest. He also has it in diaper area. They dont bother
him, no fever and no blisters in the mouth. Could this be a type of
Coxscacki.

Thanks

If coxsackie is what is known locally as "hand foot and mouth disease'
then yeah, it could be coxsackie, but it could also be chicken pox,
the blisters can be similar in some ways, but more fragile and prone
to bursting and scabbing, unlike the rather rugged hand foot and mouth
blisters. Chicken pox is more of a worry to adults than coxsackie
imho... although adults are more likely to get a mild dose of hand
foot and mouth I've never heard of an adult seriously ill with it,
unlikely adult chicken pox which can be damn near life threatening. If
you are at all concerned, then go get a second opinion.

Chickenpox does not start on the feet and hands. Hand, foot, and mouth
disease is one manifestation of a particular strain of Coxsackie
virus, not a synonym.

PF

In misc.kids Silvasurfa wrote:

: If coxsackie is what is known locally as "hand foot and mouth disease'
: then yeah, it could be coxsackie, but it could also be chicken pox,
: the blisters can be similar in some ways, but more fragile and prone
: to bursting and scabbing, unlike the rather rugged hand foot and mouth
: blisters. Chicken pox is more of a worry to adults than coxsackie
: imho... although adults are more likely to get a mild dose of hand
: foot and mouth I've never heard of an adult seriously ill with it,
: unlikely adult chicken pox which can be damn near life threatening. If
: you are at all concerned, then go get a second opinion.

The measles looks like what you describe, go where you describe and
I remember there being outbreaks like that every now and then in
school.

--
Patty

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:30:51 +0000 (UTC), Patricia Cecilia Pichardo
wrote:

In misc.kids Silvasurfa wrote:

: If coxsackie is what is known locally as "hand foot and mouth disease'
: then yeah, it could be coxsackie, but it could also be chicken pox,
: the blisters can be similar in some ways, but more fragile and prone
: to bursting and scabbing, unlike the rather rugged hand foot and mouth
: blisters. Chicken pox is more of a worry to adults than coxsackie
: imho... although adults are more likely to get a mild dose of hand
: foot and mouth I've never heard of an adult seriously ill with it,
: unlikely adult chicken pox which can be damn near life threatening. If
: you are at all concerned, then go get a second opinion.

The measles looks like what you describe, go where you describe and
I remember there being outbreaks like that every now and then in
school.

No physician with even one eye would mistake measles for Coxsackie
virus.

PF