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Family Law Question
"whatamess" wrote in message oups.com... On May 2, 12:05 pm, "Gini" wrote: wrote You have no right to judge me or my situation, since it is unique to me. == Ummm...You asked. == Thank you all so much for being so judgemental and unhelpful. == Suggesting you grow up and accept responsibility for yourself is judgmental and unhelpful? That's an interesting perspective on adulthood. == Let us NOT judge...fact is, this is the PRODUCT of our lovely Child Support System who teaches CPs and kids to feel the WORLD owes them and it's up to the WORLD to support them on whatever decisions they make...Watch out, if things continue as they are, we'll have many more ADULTS as spoiled thanks to the CSE offices around the country. I couldn't have said it better! I lay 1000 to 1 odds that this woman ends up being JUST LIKE mom. Any takers? [My statements probably offend her, but sometimes the truth just don't feel so good.] |
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Exactly what is your complaint? I asked questions that need to be answered
if you really want to work through this whole thing. Do you think that the people on this newsgroup are the only ones who will think of the questions? Were you, perhaps, looking for a roadmap to the money that you seem to think should rightfully belong to you? That would require a lawyer--not a bunch of people who are caught up in the system you think should support you. You really do need to take some time to work through the questions people have asked here. Perhaps some may have just been judgemental, but most were not. Most were trying to get you to look at the issue from other perspectives. wrote in message oups.com... You have no right to judge me or my situation, since it is unique to me. Thank you all so much for being so judgemental and unhelpful. On 1 mai, 18:06, "Chris" wrote: "Relayer" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. Also, as techermama pointed out, being 24 before you graduate is also a problem. Are you an undergrad? At 21, you should be almost finished. If you are (will be) a grad student, that makes your case even worse. The agreement isn't intended to cover "career" students. If that was the case, you could simply stay enrolled in school, get 10 degree's and they would be forced to support you until you are in your 30's. It's doesnt work that way. You should still probably talk to a lawyer though as it's pretty certain your Mom will the minute you move out. Most custodial parents, once the kid becomes a financial burden, are pretty fast to dump them. Better yet, how about her being responsible for her OWN welfare, as any adult ought to be, and stop trying to live on handouts. Hint: Taking care of YOU benefits only YOU. Thus, the responsibility to care for yourself rests with you alone. I learned this lesson in second grade, and took FULL responsibility for my personal welfare by the time I became an adult; and I would have it no other way! It escapes me how anyone can be lazy and expect others to carry their weight through the force of law. |
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"DB" wrote in message t... "whatamess" wrote in Let us NOT judge...fact is, this is the PRODUCT of our lovely Child Support System who teaches CPs and kids to feel the WORLD owes them and it's up to the WORLD to support them on whatever decisions they make...Watch out, if things continue as they are, we'll have many more ADULTS as spoiled thanks to the CSE offices around the country. THE CSE office is just more proof of a big government system that is vastly out of touch with the real world. Some how we gave it the power to exist in it's present forum, how do we take away it's power and total authority and serve the real needs of the children it was intended for? Answer: They haven't harmed enough people yet. My guess is that they have to cause about TEN times as much damage as they currently are to motivate enough people to erase their wicked system. Too many people are still not directly affected. But it's only a matter of time before their cancer grows so large that the rest of the citizens will have no choice but to address it. And hopefully with swift justice! |
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wrote in message oups.com... You have no right to judge me or my situation, since it is unique to me. That's why I didn't judge you. I did, however, provide sound advice based upon the information as you presented it. Thank you all so much for being so judgemental and unhelpful. It is my honor to be unhelpful to your unclean motives. On 1 mai, 18:06, "Chris" wrote: "Relayer" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. Also, as techermama pointed out, being 24 before you graduate is also a problem. Are you an undergrad? At 21, you should be almost finished. If you are (will be) a grad student, that makes your case even worse. The agreement isn't intended to cover "career" students. If that was the case, you could simply stay enrolled in school, get 10 degree's and they would be forced to support you until you are in your 30's. It's doesnt work that way. You should still probably talk to a lawyer though as it's pretty certain your Mom will the minute you move out. Most custodial parents, once the kid becomes a financial burden, are pretty fast to dump them. Better yet, how about her being responsible for her OWN welfare, as any adult ought to be, and stop trying to live on handouts. Hint: Taking care of YOU benefits only YOU. Thus, the responsibility to care for yourself rests with you alone. I learned this lesson in second grade, and took FULL responsibility for my personal welfare by the time I became an adult; and I would have it no other way! It escapes me how anyone can be lazy and expect others to carry their weight through the force of law. |
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Family Law Question
On 30 Apr 2007 03:50:55 -0700, Relayer wrote:
On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. I would say it's unlikely she will have to pay.anything. In fact, neither will your father. By not being under either's "care", you will become offially emancipated and therefore they will no longer be subject to the agreement. You could "say" you will be under your fathers "care", but that would require a new agreement, and your mother is unlikely to agree to anything. The agreement was made between your Mom and Dad, not between you, your Mom and Dad. Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus........ |
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wrote ................................... Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus....... == There is no post minority support in PA unless the parent's have a written agreement to provide such support. College support is not required under PA statutes. |
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wrote in message ... On 30 Apr 2007 03:50:55 -0700, Relayer wrote: On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. I would say it's unlikely she will have to pay.anything. In fact, neither will your father. By not being under either's "care", you will become offially emancipated and therefore they will no longer be subject to the agreement. You could "say" you will be under your fathers "care", but that would require a new agreement, and your mother is unlikely to agree to anything. The agreement was made between your Mom and Dad, not between you, your Mom and Dad. Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus........ You had better check the case law. Most states have decisions stating a student living away from home is still considered to be living with there parents. All of the FAFSA rules set up by Congress do not allow a child attending school to be emancipated for college funding until age 25 unless they meet one of five very limited criteria. |
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 30 Apr 2007 03:50:55 -0700, Relayer wrote: On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. I would say it's unlikely she will have to pay.anything. In fact, neither will your father. By not being under either's "care", you will become offially emancipated and therefore they will no longer be subject to the agreement. You could "say" you will be under your fathers "care", but that would require a new agreement, and your mother is unlikely to agree to anything. The agreement was made between your Mom and Dad, not between you, your Mom and Dad. Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus........ You had better check the case law. Most states have decisions stating a student living away from home is still considered to be living with there parents. All of the FAFSA rules set up by Congress do not allow a child attending school to be emancipated for college funding until age 25 unless they meet one of five very limited criteria. .......... and they call it "child" support. LOL |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 30 Apr 2007 03:50:55 -0700, Relayer wrote: On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. I would say it's unlikely she will have to pay.anything. In fact, neither will your father. By not being under either's "care", you will become offially emancipated and therefore they will no longer be subject to the agreement. You could "say" you will be under your fathers "care", but that would require a new agreement, and your mother is unlikely to agree to anything. The agreement was made between your Mom and Dad, not between you, your Mom and Dad. Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus........ You had better check the case law. Most states have decisions stating a student living away from home is still considered to be living with there parents. All of the FAFSA rules set up by Congress do not allow a child attending school to be emancipated for college funding until age 25 unless they meet one of five very limited criteria. ......... and they call it "child" support. LOL Well technically post-17 money paid is support for an adult child attending school. But in practice it really is child support in my state because the money is paid directly to the post-17 student. |
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On 30 Apr 2007 03:50:55 -0700, Relayer wrote: On Apr 29, 7:05?pm, wrote: Hi, I'm a 21 year old ontario university student with divorced parents. In their divorce agreement, they agreed to pay for my university and to support me financially until my studies were over. Well, we are 3 years away from that and things are really not peachy with my mother, who I have been living with since the divorce (a good...15 years ago, I think). My psychologist has recommended to me that I move out, as have other people in my life. This didn't seem like a feasible option before, but I'm starting to consider it. I'm thinking of moving out, but I've been told by my mother that if I do, she will cease to pay for my university. I was talking to my dad about it today (he lives 3 hours away) and he said that she still has to. He also said that I would be able to potentially get the child support directly given to me instead of to my mother, thus enabling me to move out and to be able to pay for my studies/expenses. Does this work? Is it done? Do I have any ressources? I definetly can't afford a lawyer, and I'm trying to figure out my options right now. I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks. I would say it's unlikely she will have to pay.anything. In fact, neither will your father. By not being under either's "care", you will become offially emancipated and therefore they will no longer be subject to the agreement. You could "say" you will be under your fathers "care", but that would require a new agreement, and your mother is unlikely to agree to anything. The agreement was made between your Mom and Dad, not between you, your Mom and Dad. Am uder the same legal thought here in that when a child moves out from a custodial parents care, the child has become "emancipated" and therefore is no longer in need of financial support. Will keep you posted afa Pennsylvania is concerned because soon I will be faced with this decision of whether my daughter is going to college but living at home or away on campus........ You had better check the case law. Most states have decisions stating a student living away from home is still considered to be living with there parents. All of the FAFSA rules set up by Congress do not allow a child attending school to be emancipated for college funding until age 25 unless they meet one of five very limited criteria. ......... and they call it "child" support. LOL Well technically post-17 money paid is support for an adult child attending school. But in practice it really is child support in my state because the money is paid directly to the post-17 student. What "child" is being supported by the money? |
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