Every 9 seconds.....

We have all heard the ubiquitous oft-quoted -- and thoroughly debunked
-- feminist slogan that "Every 9 seconds a woman is beaten in
America..." blah blah blah...

My Father's Day resolution is that the next time that little diddy is
quoted to me, I want to respond with "Every X seconds a man is having
his children ripped frm his life in legally sanctioned kidnapping and
having his status reduced from full-fledged father to mere 'financial
benefactor'..."

The problem is that I am having problem finding reliable data on the
number of contested custody cases that decided in favor of mothers. I
know that the oft-quoted rate is "95%", but that came from older data
and (unlike the feminsts) I'd like my figure to be accurate.

Any suggestions on a reliable source for the statistics on father's
who loose custody each year in America?

Thanks!

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We have all heard the ubiquitous oft-quoted -- and thoroughly debunked
-- feminist slogan that "Every 9 seconds a woman is beaten in
America..." blah blah blah...

My Father's Day resolution is that the next time that little diddy is
quoted to me, I want to respond with "Every X seconds a man is having
his children ripped frm his life in legally sanctioned kidnapping and
having his status reduced from full-fledged father to mere 'financial
benefactor'..."

The problem is that I am having problem finding reliable data on the
number of contested custody cases that decided in favor of mothers. I
know that the oft-quoted rate is "95%", but that came from older data
and (unlike the feminsts) I'd like my figure to be accurate.

Any suggestions on a reliable source for the statistics on father's
who loose custody each year in America?

Thanks!

That's a good question and I'd like to see the numbers too. BTW men are
beaten more often than women in America, which is shown in the same
study the feminists use for their quote (I think it's every 14 seconds
vs 15 for a woman). Not that it matters, they aren't PEOPLE like us
after all... :^/

You need to set your parameters for exactly what you mean by the stat.
You could find the number of contested custody cases per year, then the
number of contested cases that grant award to the mother, and use the
percentage as a base.

- Ron ^*^

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We have all heard the ubiquitous oft-quoted -- and thoroughly debunked
-- feminist slogan that "Every 9 seconds a woman is beaten in
America..." blah blah blah...

My Father's Day resolution is that the next time that little diddy is
quoted to me, I want to respond with "Every X seconds a man is having
his children ripped frm his life in legally sanctioned kidnapping and
having his status reduced from full-fledged father to mere 'financial
benefactor'..."

The problem is that I am having problem finding reliable data on the
number of contested custody cases that decided in favor of mothers. I
know that the oft-quoted rate is "95%", but that came from older data
and (unlike the feminsts) I'd like my figure to be accurate.

Any suggestions on a reliable source for the statistics on father's
who loose custody each year in America?

When dealing with any statistics that express the results as percentages, it
is important to ask the question, "A percentage of what?" Since the sample
changes so frequently in custody numbers overlooking this question would be
a major flaw.

As an example, the 95% you cited is a percentage more closely associated
with initial custody for mothers as a percentage of initial custody for
mothers and fathers only. It ignores the fact other relatives, foster care,
and state youth authorities also have some children in their custody.

Your question limits the custody cases significantly because of the
qualifier being "contested custody cases." Most custody cases are not
contested because fathers are advised it is a waste of money to contest a
custody case when the outcome is a high percentage of mother custody.

To answer your specific question, Dr. Sanford Braver did some research in
this area. He found that when families were conflicted (mother wanting sole
custody and father wanting joint custody) the mother got her preference for
sole custody 77% of the time and the father got his preference for joint
custody 23% of the time.

On Jun 19, 1:01 am, "Bob Whiteside" wrote:

When dealing with any statistics that express the results as percentages, it
is important to ask the question, "A percentage of what?" ....

Thank you for your reply....but perhaps I was not clear with my
question.

I do not want to know the percentage, I want to know the NUMBER.

When a feminist spouts off in my face "Every 9 seconds a woman is
beaten, what are you doing abou tit?" I want to be able to respond "So
what? Every X seconds a father is eliminated from his family, what are
YOU doing about it??"

The key is to be able to calculate a good estimate for "X".

To do so, I need to know the average number of men (note: number...not
percentage) who loose custody annually. Then simply convert one year
to so many seconds, divide through, and voila I have my answer for the
number of seconds per loss of custody by a man.



To answer your specific question, Dr. Sanford Braver did some research in
this area....

Thank you for the information. I will check for his research on the
internet.

On 19 Jun, 04:00, wrote:
On Jun 19, 1:01 am, "Bob Whiteside" wrote:

When dealing with any statistics that express the results as percentages, it
is important to ask the question, "A percentage of what?" ....

Thank you for your reply....but perhaps I was not clear with my
question.

I do not want to know the percentage, I want to know the NUMBER.

When a feminist spouts off in my face "Every 9 seconds a woman is
beaten, what are you doing abou tit?" I want to be able to respond "So
what? Every X seconds a father is eliminated from his family, what are
YOU doing about it??"

The key is to be able to calculate a good estimate for "X".

Why don't you do what feminists do when they need statistical
information?

Pull it out of their arses.

On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, wrote:
Why don't you do what feminists do when they need statistical
information?

Pull it out of their arses.

While I suppose your response is facetious, I will still emphasize
that we need to rise ABOVE their tactics....not drop down to them.

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On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, wrote:

Why don't you do what feminists do when they need statistical
information?

Pull it out of their arses.


While I suppose your response is facetious, I will still emphasize
that we need to rise ABOVE their tactics....not drop down to them.

I suspect the problem will be that you will find several different
answers to your question depending on how you define your terms. You
will be able to get better-sounding answers by using shadier
definitions. This is the imp perched on the shoulder and whispering
into the ear of every feminist statistician. How will you deal with it?

- Ron ^*^

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When a feminist spouts off in my face "Every 9 seconds a woman is
beaten, what are you doing abou tit?"

Lets say you disagree with that number and say it's more like every 6
seconds a feminist is rightfully beaten! LOL

That equates to 10 per minute X 60 X 24 X 365 = 5, 256, 000 women per year.

So they are saying that over the course of 20 years, every woman in America
will experience a severe beating?

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On Jun 19, 1:01 am, "Bob Whiteside" wrote:

When dealing with any statistics that express the results as
percentages, it
is important to ask the question, "A percentage of what?" ....

Thank you for your reply....but perhaps I was not clear with my
question.

I do not want to know the percentage, I want to know the NUMBER.

When a feminist spouts off in my face "Every 9 seconds a woman is
beaten, what are you doing abou tit?" I want to be able to respond "So
what? Every X seconds a father is eliminated from his family, what are
YOU doing about it??"

The key is to be able to calculate a good estimate for "X".

To do so, I need to know the average number of men (note: number...not
percentage) who loose custody annually. Then simply convert one year
to so many seconds, divide through, and voila I have my answer for the
number of seconds per loss of custody by a man.

My advice is to never, ever argue with a feminist over their statistics. A
better response is to calmly suggest anti-male sentiments are not conducive
to men and women working together.

And worse, taking a feminist argument about any topic (abuse in this case)
and changing it into another topic (father custody in your example) just
prolongs the argument.

You can have an upper hand by understanding where the feminist statistics
come from. Take for example the "A woman is beaten every 9 seconds" claim.
This statistic comes from the Criminal Victimization in United States Nation
Crime Victimization Survey put out by the Department of Justice. During
1999 females experienced 3,340,480 crimes of violence against them.
3,340,480 crimes divided by 365 days divided by 24 hours divided by 60
seconds is 6.35 crimes per minute. 6.35 crimes per minute equals one every
9 seconds.

If you insist on arguing with a feminist over this statistic, point out much
of this crime is female on female crime and that is why the government has
reclassified these acts as intimate partner violence instead of domestic
violence. The government came to the realization a growing number of female
assaults were being committed by lesbian partners. Also, during 1999 men
experienced 4,015,580 crimes of violence against them. That equals 7.64
crimes per minute which equates to one every 8 seconds.

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The government came to the realization a growing number of female
assaults were being committed by lesbian partners.

LOL, ever watch People's Court when lesbians breakup and sue each other.
It's Vile and very vicious too!