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Old February 28th 06, 02:50 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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wrote:
Poor Mark.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
wrote

snip


wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...&date=20060224

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says
WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have
misused
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Jan, do you get the point, now?
"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."

OOPS! Jan


Is not the subject.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


MILLIONS have misused.


Which has nothing to do with the millions who follow the rules and use
medications according to instructions.

You just seem to be obsessed with posting about misuse, when people in
these groups are not mis-users. Obviously, you are trying to tell these
people that they are part of the evil of misuse and it is their fault.

If I am wrong, please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS, why you appear to post
every mis-use article you find.


IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."




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Old February 28th 06, 02:51 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs- Study

Vashti wrote:
It wasn't a dark and stormy night when Raving Loonie wrote:

Vashti wrote:
It wasn't a dark and stormy night when
wrote:

MILLIONS have misused.

IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

Millions have misused aspirin and "IT IS STILL HAPPENING", what
should be done?

millions?

... I thought it was 'Billions' ???


Welll- billions are an amount of millions, surely?g

Just think of the multitudes abusing caffeine and alcohol... why we
ought to ban stuff like that! Ooh, and *chocolate*!!! If chocolate ever
got banned I'd have to consider moving off-world though!

.... it's almost, as if ...

... being alive was terminally fatal, condition.

Absolutely, deadly.

Perhaps, a person shouldn't risk it?

RL

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Old February 28th 06, 02:58 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Mark Probert wrote:
wrote:
Poor Mark.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
wrote

snip


wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...&date=20060224

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says
WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have
misused
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Jan, do you get the point, now?
"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."
OOPS! Jan


Is not the subject.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


MILLIONS have misused.


Which has nothing to do with the millions who follow the rules and use
medications according to instructions.

You just seem to be obsessed with posting about misuse, when people in
these groups are not mis-users. Obviously, you are trying to tell these
people that they are part of the evil of misuse and it is their fault.

If I am wrong, please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS, why you appear to post
every mis-use article you find.

Errrh, does that also extend to the misuse of naturopathic
methodologies?

( ... if THAT were the case then, at least, it would be unbiased
"misusage". ... as in, being biased, in an indiscriminate manner.)


RL

... or is that "being descriminating" in an unbiased manner?
Sorry. These things always confuse me.
....

RL ( ... again )

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Old February 28th 06, 03:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Raving Loonie wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
wrote:
Poor Mark.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
wrote

snip


wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...&date=20060224

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says
WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have
misused
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Jan, do you get the point, now?
"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."
OOPS! Jan
Is not the subject.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."
MILLIONS have misused.

Which has nothing to do with the millions who follow the rules and use
medications according to instructions.

You just seem to be obsessed with posting about misuse, when people in
these groups are not mis-users. Obviously, you are trying to tell these
people that they are part of the evil of misuse and it is their fault.

If I am wrong, please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS, why you appear to post
every mis-use article you find.

Errrh, does that also extend to the misuse of naturopathic
methodologies?

( ... if THAT were the case then, at least, it would be unbiased
"misusage". ... as in, being biased, in an indiscriminate manner.)


No, AFAIK, Jan has never complained about people who abuse dihydrogen
monoxide. When I pointed that out to her, she said I was diverting,
which is an evil thing when I do it, but acceptable when she does it.

RL

... or is that "being descriminating" in an unbiased manner?
Sorry. These things always confuse me.
...

RL ( ... again )

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Brad_Chad wrote:
If conventional medicine really cared about people, they would let
people try to get rid of their ADHD by finding their Hidden Food
Allergies (Sensitivities), and removing them from their diet. This is
the safe way that alternative doctors help many people with ADHD. It
doesn't work on everybody, but it is guaranteed safe, and it has other
health benefits as well. Never taking a drug means never having to say,
"I'm sorry this drug caused the heart problem." Conventional medicine
doesn't have time for any treatment that doesn't involve drugs, because
drugs are where the money is. Talk to a naturopathic doctor
(www.naturopathic.org) or an alternative doctor (www.acam.org).

How very true.
I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly!

Indeed ... there is very good money to be made by selling nutritional
suppliments.

the Raving Loonie

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"Vashti" wrote in message
...
It wasn't a dark and stormy night when wrote:

MILLIONS have misused.

IT IS STILL HAPPENING.


What you *selectively* snipped.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...document_id=20...

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says


By Shankar Vedantam
The Washington Post


WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have misused
stimulant drugs meant to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, and
substantial numbers of teen-agers and young adults appear to show signs of
addiction, according to a comprehensive national analysis tracking such
abuse.


The statistics are striking because many young people recreationally using
these drugs are seeking to boost academic and professional performance,
doctors say.


Although the drugs may allow people to stay awake longer and finish work
faster, scientists who published a new study concluded that about 1.6
million teen-agers and young adults had misused these stimulants during a
12-month period and that 75,000 showed signs of addiction.


The study published online this month in the journal Drug and Alcohol
Dependence culled data from a 2002 national survey of about 67,000
households.


The data paint a concrete and sobering picture of what many experts have
worried about for years, and present ethical and medical challenges for a
country where mental performance is highly valued and where the number of
prescriptions for these drugs has doubled every five years, said Nora
Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse.


"We live in a highly competitive society, and you want to get the top grades
and you know your colleagues are taking stimulants and you feel pressured,"
she said. "Yes, you are going to study better in the middle of the night if
you take one of these medications. The problem is a certain percentage of
people become addicted to them, and some have toxic effects."


Volkow said it was impossible to disentangle the skyrocketing prescriptions
of drugs for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder from the risks of
diversion and abuse.


"As a child, you have multiple friends who are being treated with stimulant
medications," she said. "You get the sense that these are good."


Studies have shown that the drugs are highly effective, especially among
children, and also that they reduce the risk of substance abuse among those
correctly diagnosed with the psychiatric disorder, which is characterized by
inattention and unruly behavior. Untreated ADHD has also been associated
with conduct and academic problems.


At the same time, there have been growing concerns that the drugs are
over-prescribed. A Food and Drug Administration panel earlier this month
warned that the medications carried risks of rare, but serious,
cardiovascular problems, and it recommended that the agency place serious
"black box" warnings on the drugs, as a way to restrain spiraling
prescriptions.


Lawrence Diller, a pediatrician in Walnut Creek, Calif., who prescribes the
drugs but is worried about their overuse, said that the new study showed the
real health concerns are with diversion and abuse, not with rare side
effects. "Seventy-five thousand addicts to prescription stimulants is much
more troublesome than the 100 to 200 adults who have strokes," he said.
"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


The study found that men and women were equally likely to be misusing the
drugs, but that women seemed to be at greater risk of dependence -
characterized by a lack of control, physical need and growing tolerance for
the drug - while men seemed to be at greater risk of abuse, in which the
medication was used in dangerous situations, said lead author Larry Kroutil,
who studies health behavior and education at RTI International, a nonprofit
research group.


To obtain their findings, Kroutil and a team of researchers culled data from
a 2002 national survey conducted by the federal government's Substance Abuse
and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA). H. Westley Clark,
director of SAMHSA's Center for Substance Abuse Treatment, said the 2002
data were obtained through face-to-face interviews. RTI has not yet culled
data from subsequent years regarding the misuse of ADHD drugs.


Since then, prescription rates and the popularity of various drugs have
changed, and Kroutil said continuing research is needed to track the
phenomenon. Clark noted that data from 2003 suggested that the problem of
stimulant misuse was greater among young adults 18 to 25 years old than
among teen-agers.


The RTI study was paid for by Eli Lilly and Co., which makes the
non-stimulant ADHD drug Strattera. Although non-stimulant treatments such as
Strattera were an option for ADHD patients, they were often not as potent as
stimulant drugs, Volkow said.


Both Volkow and Scott Kollins, who heads Duke University's ADHD program,
said the full range of ADHD drugs is a valuable tool. But Kollins said the
study brought home what he has seen anecdotally: A colleague who visited his
college-age son's fraternity was mobbed by requests for Adderall
prescriptions by youngsters seeking to boost academic performance.


"If I took Ritalin, I would probably stay up longer and write my grants
faster," Kollins said. But besides the fact that he did not think this is
right, Kollins said the rare side effects highlighted by the FDA panel meant
people using the drugs for nonmedical purposes were placing themselves at
risk for those adverse events.


Volkow was more blunt: "You are playing roulette," she said. "If you get
addicted, you will not only not get into Harvard, you will not finish high
school."

Millions have misused aspirin and "IT IS STILL HAPPENING", what should
be done?


Vashti


Your diversion is noted.


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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Poor Mark.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
wrote:
wrote

snip


wrote:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...&date=20060224

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says
WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have
misused
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Misused. Misused. Misused. Misused. Misused. Misused. Misused.
Misused. Misused. Misused. Misused.

Jan, do you get the point, now?
"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of
this
epidemic."
OOPS! Jan


Is not the subject.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."


MILLIONS have misused.


Which has nothing to do with the millions who follow the rules and use
medications according to instructions.


Nothing said it did.

You just seem to be obsessed with posting about misuse, when people in
these groups are not mis-users. Obviously, you are trying to tell these
people that they are part of the evil of misuse and it is their fault.


Do look at the groups, this is posted to.

It is obvious, YOU are turning this post into another *attack*.

If I am wrong, please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS, why you appear to post
every mis-use article you find.


Fact is I don't. I post many articles.

Further FACT, I don't have to explain *anything* I do to you, Mark.


IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

"Houston, we have got a problem because we are just in the middle of this
epidemic."




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Old March 1st 06, 03:23 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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wrote:
"Vashti" wrote in message


WASHINGTON - More than 7 million Americans are estimated to have misused
stimulant drugs meant to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, ...


Quick & dirty, reality check, here ...

AD(H)D prevelance ~~~ 5%

U.S. pop 200 million

10 million people with AD(H)D is the U.S. ... Right?

7 million misused stimulant drugs?

Whew! ... you had me worried there for a minute.

Translation: At least 3 million Americans with ADD are popping pills
correctly, at all times during their life, to date.

Not bad, actually ....

As for the other 7 million poor sots who suffer from ADD but mess-up
the usage of their medicine?

Altogether, now ....

First we take 1 (one) white pill out of the bottle and ...
... Of course, ensuring that we *don't* use any foreign supply
wherein there is no *quality control* ...

Etc ...


Cordially,

RL


RL

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Old March 1st 06, 01:57 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs- Study

It wasn't a dark and stormy night when wrote:


"Vashti" wrote in message
...
It wasn't a dark and stormy night when

wrote:

MILLIONS have misused.

IT IS STILL HAPPENING.


What you *selectively* snipped.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi...document_id=20...

Millions have misused ADHD stimulant drugs, study says

[snipped again for focus]
Millions have misused aspirin and "IT IS STILL HAPPENING", what
should be done?


Vashti


Your diversion is noted.


Repasting content snipped and calling my point a diversion is an odd way
to have a discussion. Can you not answer my question? Is that why you
seem to be attempting to divert attention from it?


Vashti
 




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