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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds togrowing body of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
On Jan 9, 7:14*am, Jeff wrote:
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ndex_lifestyle "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department . Thanks Vince |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
bigvince wrote:
On Jan 9, 7:14 am, Jeff wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ndex_lifestyle "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department. It's happened before. It's called the scientific method. You have a hypothesis, like thimerosal causes autism, then do an experiment or study to test the hypothesis. Using the scientific method, the death rate from childhood cancer has gone down from about 100% of the victims of childhood cancer to about 20 to 25%. And the number of kids who die from cancer has also gone down. Regardless of whether we disagree on this, the data speak for themselves. The rates of autism go up while thimerosal usage has gone way down. People can try to spin this however they want, but the second part of the title: Research adds to growing body of evidence that finds no connection between the two [autism and vaccines] says it all. There is virtually no evidence that vaccines cause autism and tons of evidence that they do. Thanks Vince You're quite welcome. Jeff |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds togrowing body of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
On Jan 9, 8:58*am, Jeff wrote:
bigvince wrote: On Jan 9, 7:14 am, Jeff wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c.... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study *From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl.../611489.html?c... "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " *Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department. People can try to spin this however they want, but the second part of the title: Research adds to growing body of evidence that finds no connection between the two [autism and vaccines] says it all. There is virtually no evidence that vaccines cause autism and tons of evidence that they do. This study proves nothing For neutral parties here is a good review of why this study is flawed Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co-founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. Institute and member California Legislative Blue Ribbon Commission on Autism. Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co- founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. Although this study by California's vaccine establishment clearly sustains the fact that California is in the midst of a growing autism epidemic and that California's system of reporting professionally diagnosed cases of full syndrome autism is the gold standard in the country, the conclusions in the study are flawed and premature, and does nothing to exonerate vaccines, particularly mercury containing vaccines, as a cause of California's autism epidemic. Although the mercury burden in vaccines has been reduced over the years, we know that even very small amounts of mercury can cause serious, life altering neurological damage. California's ban on mercury containing vaccines for pregnant women and children under three did not take effect until December 2006. Today, those children born after the ban took effect are between 4 months old and one year of age. California's developmental services reporting system DOES NOT include children under the age of three years old. It will not be clear what impact California's law banning mercury in vaccines has had on the rate of new cases of autism until at least 2009-2010 and later. Historically, the majority of children with autism enter California's developmental services system between the ages of 3+ and 9 years old. If by 2009-2010 there has not been ANY change in the rate of increase of new cases of autism entering California's developmental services system, then we can scratch mercury in vaccines off our list of agents contained in vaccines as a cause, and; then begin concentrating on the numerous other poisons and toxic agents in vaccines such as aluminum, formaldehyde, MSG, live viruses, etc., and most importantly, the interaction of these and other toxic agents contained in the 34 doses of vaccines children receive from birth to two years ol' Thanks Vince |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
bigvince wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:58 am, Jeff wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jan 9, 7:14 am, Jeff wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl.../611489.html?c... "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department. People can try to spin this however they want, but the second part of the title: Research adds to growing body of evidence that finds no connection between the two [autism and vaccines] says it all. There is virtually no evidence that vaccines cause autism and tons of evidence that they do. This study proves nothing For neutral parties here is a good review of why this study is flawed Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co-founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. Institute and member California Legislative Blue Ribbon Commission on Autism. Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co- founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. This is far from a neutral party. ... California's ban on mercury containing vaccines for pregnant women and children under three did not take effect until December 2006. Yet, most vaccines were thimerasol-free before the ban went into effect. When you are able to say something intelligent, I will respond to you in this thread. What have said so far is a waste of time and bandwidth. Have a great day. Jeff |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growing body of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
"Jeff" wrote in message news:IU2hj.4800$sH.1568@trnddc04... http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?chan=top+news_top+news+index_lifestyle or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak cover up continues http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr54.html |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
bigvince wrote:
On Jan 9, 7:14 am, Jeff wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ndex_lifestyle "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department . When every well done study by real scientists shows the same thing, yes, the burden of proof shifts to the anti-vac liar sociopaths. Substituting conspiracy thery crap, as you did, does not constitute proof. |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
Jeff wrote:
bigvince wrote: On Jan 9, 8:58 am, Jeff wrote: bigvince wrote: On Jan 9, 7:14 am, Jeff wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/611489.html?c... or http://tinyurl.com/39l4ak All thet really needs to be said about this study From http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl.../611489.html?c... "The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter, medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California Department of Public Health. " Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales investigating the Justice department. People can try to spin this however they want, but the second part of the title: Research adds to growing body of evidence that finds no connection between the two [autism and vaccines] says it all. There is virtually no evidence that vaccines cause autism and tons of evidence that they do. This study proves nothing For neutral parties here is a good review of why this study is flawed Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co-founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. Institute and member California Legislative Blue Ribbon Commission on Autism. Statement by Rick Rollens, parent of a 17 year old son with autism, co- founder U. C. Davis M.I.N.D. This is far from a neutral party. ... Correct. Rick Rollens has a vested interest in continuing the anti-vac liar sociopath debate. California's ban on mercury containing vaccines for pregnant women and children under three did not take effect until December 2006. Yet, most vaccines were thimerasol-free before the ban went into effect. When you are able to say something intelligent, I will respond to you in this thread. What have said so far is a waste of time and bandwidth. Have a great day. Jeff |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds togrowing body of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
The contention that autism cannot be caused by thimerosal in vaccines, because it has been removed from them and the rates of autism in California have not decreased with that removal, would be comforting except for one very uncomfortable fact. Thimerosal has not, actually, been removed from the vaccines that children are receiving. I recently did a bit of research into the question of thimerosal content in flu vaccines. While the information I was able to obtain was limited, the convoluted answers that I received were enlightening in and of themselves. http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemet...c_timeline.htm CNN claims to have obtained an answer to this question http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/31...hot/index.html and they say that only six percent of individual doses of flu shots for this season are 'mercury free'. If one is to presume that the rest have levels of thimerosal that could be of concern, then, eight long years after the Department of Health and Human Services said that thimerosal should and would be removed from vaccines, the vast majority of flu vaccines in the US still contain the mercury preservative. Most of the articles I read have a great deal to say about the influence of genes on the development of autism. I am not surprised that genes would affect the development of this devastating condition-- they have some affect on how each and every one of us reacts to each and every thing we are exposed to in our environment. The incidence of autism in all of it's forms has skyrocketed in recent decades--even the CDC no longer denies this. What most articles fail to address is that it is impossible to explain such a ballooning in incidence simply by looking at genetic factors, and not environment as well. If I remember my high school biology correctly, genes are combined, male and female, and passed on from one generation to the next, which means that the process of change in populations is a slow one that can occur only with the passage of many generations. This spike in autism that has parents so concerned right now, however, has occurred in the space of a decade and a half. Such swift change is not possible only via the natural recombination of genes that occurs when two parents have sex. It is obvious that some kind of damage is being done to the genetic makeup, or simply damage to the organism. In this case, that organism being all too often a human child, such as the one that Karen McCarron, the former pathologist in Illinois, suffocated with a plastic bag before attempting suicide because she felt responsible for having had the child vaccinated. Robin Nemeth North Royalton, Ohio |
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Study Casts Doubt on Vaccine-Autism Link: Research adds to growingbody of evidence thats finds no connection between the two
Robin Nemeth wrote:
The contention that autism cannot be caused by thimerosal in vaccines, because it has been removed from them and the rates of autism in California have not decreased with that removal, would be comforting except for one very uncomfortable fact. Thimerosal has not, actually, been removed from the vaccines that children are receiving. I recently did a bit of research into the question of thimerosal content in flu vaccines. While the information I was able to obtain was limited, the convoluted answers that I received were enlightening in and of themselves. Is Thimerosal in the flu vaccines given in CA? In addition, would removal of thimerosal from all the vaccines except flu vaccine still reduce the incidence of thimerosal if thimerosal caused autism? Get a clue. Jef http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemet...c_timeline.htm CNN claims to have obtained an answer to this question http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/31...hot/index.html and they say that only six percent of individual doses of flu shots for this season are 'mercury free'. If one is to presume that the rest have levels of thimerosal that could be of concern, then, eight long years after the Department of Health and Human Services said that thimerosal should and would be removed from vaccines, the vast majority of flu vaccines in the US still contain the mercury preservative. Most of the articles I read have a great deal to say about the influence of genes on the development of autism. I am not surprised that genes would affect the development of this devastating condition-- they have some affect on how each and every one of us reacts to each and every thing we are exposed to in our environment. The incidence of autism in all of it's forms has skyrocketed in recent decades--even the CDC no longer denies this. What most articles fail to address is that it is impossible to explain such a ballooning in incidence simply by looking at genetic factors, and not environment as well. If I remember my high school biology correctly, genes are combined, male and female, and passed on from one generation to the next, which means that the process of change in populations is a slow one that can occur only with the passage of many generations. This spike in autism that has parents so concerned right now, however, has occurred in the space of a decade and a half. Such swift change is not possible only via the natural recombination of genes that occurs when two parents have sex. It is obvious that some kind of damage is being done to the genetic makeup, or simply damage to the organism. In this case, that organism being all too often a human child, such as the one that Karen McCarron, the former pathologist in Illinois, suffocated with a plastic bag before attempting suicide because she felt responsible for having had the child vaccinated. Robin Nemeth North Royalton, Ohio |
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