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What?! MDs charge for 'death pronouncement'?
WHAT?! MDs CHARGE FOR "DEATH PRONOUNCEMENT"?
(Dr. Gastaldo's remarks are interspersed #####.) From Medical Newswire 5/30/07: Think Twice Before Coding Death Pronouncement Question: When the hospital asks an ED physician to pronounce a patient's death, what code should we report for the service? We were thinking 99231. Alabama Subscriber Answer: Most insurers will not pay for this service, so you would usually not code for death pronouncement. Typically ED physicians pronounce a patient's death as a courtesy to the attending physician. If you are absolutely determined to try to garner payment for the service, you might consider 99231 (Subsequent hospital care, per day, for the evaluation and management of a patient, which requires at least two of these three key components: a problem-focused interval history; a problem-focused examination; and medical decision-making that is straightforward or of low complexity). However, you should check with the insurer before reporting any codes for death pronouncement. #### DR. GASTALDO REMARKS: #### Medical NewsWire offers this "explanation" for lack of coverage of "death pronouncement": Explanation: If the patient is dead before the ED physician arrives, and the ED physician is just there to confirm that fact, then the patient is no longer covered by insurance (health benefits end at the time of death). #### DR. GASTALDO ASKS: But who PRONOUNCED the patient dead before the ED physician arrived? Quoting an imaginary ED physician paraphrasing the Hanes underwear inspection lady: They ain't dead 'til **I** say they dead. #### Medical NewsWire continues with this helpful suggestion: Since insurance will not cover the pronouncement, you'd have to bill the patient's estate and try to recoup payment that way. Most ED groups provide this as a courtesy service and for public-relations reasons may decide not to submit a bill. END 5/30/07 Medical NewsWire excerpt. #### DR. GASTALDO REMARKS FURTHER... Instead of contacting insurers to find out if "Death Pronouncement" is covered, Emergency Department physicians should contact insurers and tell them that MD-obstetricians and CNMwives are senselessly closing birth canals up to 30% and senselessly robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. Worse, when babies get stuck, MD-obstetricians are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% as they pull with hands, forceps and vacuums. Some babies die - some babies get paralyzed - most "only" have their spines gruesomely manipulated. Chiropractic organizations are remaining silent about the gruesome spinal manipulation perhaps because of federal rules - something I call the Federal CAM scam... See AMI OB/GYNs: Are they 'true CAM providers'? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...6475211e7e2368 Silence is a sort of "death pronouncement" for some babies. Hopefully, chiropractic physicians will break their silence. See AMI OB/GYNs: Are they 'true CAM providers'? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...d83859d723fa77 Hopefully insurers can be persuaded to STOP PAYING for this birth- canal-closing/spinal manipulaton by MDs which is a "death pronouncement" for some babies. Hopefully LAW ENFORCEMENT will eventually take action. Unfortunately, law enforcement is looking the other way. ....and MDs know it. Steve Harris, MD arrogantly boasts: "Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no crime. These are elementary principles. Get an adult to explain them to you." http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/ 28866f3384801ae9 Adults: Please explain the silence as MDs senselessly close birth canals. I'll cc the adult known as Oregon Atty Genl Hardy Myers via . Hardy, please do your job. Thanks for reading everyone. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA PS Other silence... Breastfeeding advocates should break their silence and work to change the vaccination laws to promote the most prolific immunizers - breastfeeding women. See Breastfeedings are IMMUNIZATIONS - a breastfeeding action step http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...77ffb6b14be1ef This post will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "What?! MDs charge for 'death pronouncement'" |
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