Medicine at gunpoint: Seattle mother arrested for "kidnapping" her own baby to seek alternative treatments

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Originally published June 30 2006
Medicine at gunpoint: Seattle mother arrested for "kidnapping" her own baby
to seek alternative treatments
by Mike Adams

Public trust in conventional medicine has plummeted to such an all-time low
that the industry is now resorting to the threat of violence in order to
market its services. Gunpoint medicine is alive and well in Seattle,
Washington, where county law enforcement officers, prompted by Child
Protective Services (CPS), arrested and jailed 34-year-old Tina Marie
Carlsen for her "crime" of rescuing her infant from overzealous hospital
staff who demanded they perform kidney surgery on the infant.
Terrorized by the incident, charged with second-degree kidnapping of her own
child, and threatened with bail of $500,000, Tina Carlsen was jailed for
several days, during which she was unable to provide lifesaving mother's
milk to her baby (which is crucial for a child's brain and immune system).
She has still not been allowed physical contact with her infant son.

Carlsen's child was taken from her by Child Protective Services after she
refused to drug her infant with doctor-prescribed medications in preparation
for surgery to implant kidney dialysis devices. She was also reportedly
threatened by a nephrologist (a kidney specialist), who, according to
relatives, demanded, "You do what I tell you to do, or I will have the
police at the door, taking that baby from you."

And that's exactly what happened: The doctor called Child Protective
Services, and CPS won a court battle to take custody of the child based
entirely on Carlsen's refusal to submit the child to conventional surgery.
When Carlsen rescued her own child from the Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center, a statewide Amber Alert was issued, which mobilized law
enforcement to arrest the mother. Initially, the alert claimed the child was
in "imminent danger," but this was later contradicted by hospital staff
members who issued a statement admitting the child was not in imminent
danger.

"This mother's rights have been annihilated," said Kelly Meinig, the
president of Citizens for Safe Birth, a non-profit consumer health
organization. "What's so scary is this could happen to any of us. All this
family wanted was the ability to make an informed decision."


Gunpoint medicine
This incident is the latest example of state-sponsored medical terrorism
where parents who do not submit to narrowly-defined "treatments" promoted by
conventional medicine are branded as criminals, arrested at gunpoint, jailed
and forcibly separated from their children by Child Protective Services. A
previous case of medical terrorism involved a Texas teenager who was
kidnapped by authorities and forced to undergo toxic chemotherapy treatments
that her parents desperately insisted on avoiding.
See State-sponsored medical terrorism: Texas authorities arrest parents,
kidnap their teenage daughter, and force her through chemotherapy against
her will.

Conventional medicine, characterized by toxic pharmaceuticals, radical
surgical procedures, rampant bribery, corruption and relentless disease
mongering and "sick care" profiteering, is increasingly being enforced by
gunpoint in the United States. Parents who wish to protect their children
from the dangers of chemotherapy, surgery or dangerous prescription drugs
may find themselves accused of kidnapping their own children simply by
rescuing them from the hands of surgeons and oncologists who stand to profit
from every procedure performed.

The threat of violence is not foreign to the promoters of conventional
medicine, as the FDA has been the architect of several armed raids against
doctors, nutritional supplement companies and even a church. Such raids
include the "B vitamin" raid on the clinic of Dr. Jonathan Wright, the
"CoQ10" raid on Highland Laboratories, the El Cajon pet food store raid (the
owner committed the "crime" of saying that vitamins were good for pets) and
multiple, armed "terror-style" raids against the Life Extension Foundation,
among many others. The FDA has confiscated "dangerous" products like
flaxseed oil, herbal tea, vitamin C and CoQ10, all in its quest to save the
public from the terrible dangers of nutritional medicine.


Disrupts profits, go to jail
Far from being an industry that seeks to help patients, modern-day medicine
is a profit-seeking industry that depends on sustained sickness to generate
profits for drug companies, hospitals and diagnostic equipment
manufacturers. Police officers, Sheriffs and even U.S. Marshals are
routinely recruited by conventional medicine "enforcers" to terrorize
selected targets in order to send a message to the rest of the population
that they must submit to the treatments of conventional medicine, even when
such treatments are provably harmful to patients or based on fraudulent
science and deceptive marketing claims.
The tactics of such campaigns mirror those of terrorist cells, which rely on
violence or the threat of violence to achieve a political goal.

Similarly, the Bush Administration, through its so-called "New Freedom
Initiative on Mental Health" hopes to impose mandatory mental health
screening on all U.S. children -- a thinly-veiled attempt to boost Big
Pharma profits even further by drugging millions of children with expensive
psychotropic drugs, including amphetamines like Ritalin and antidepressant
drugs known to promote suicidal behavior.


Consumer backlash gains strength
The use of these tactics helps explain why critics of conventional medicine
describe these times as, "The Dark Ages of medicine." FDA actions are
increasingly seen as oppressive and even tyrannical by an increasing number
of patients and doctors, and the public's trust of pharmaceutical companies,
who have been caught inventing fictitious diseases and misleading federal
regulators about drug safety trials, is at an all-time low.
A consumer backlash against the Police State tactics of conventional
medicine is gaining momentum as people and lawmakers alike realize that no
American is truly free if they are not free to choose a system of medicine
that they believe offers them the most effective solutions for health
challenges. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tx) has introduced the Health Freedom
Protection Act (H.R. 4282), a bill that would help rein in the censorship of
the FDA and finally allow nutritional supplement manufacturers to tell the
truth about the scientifically-validated health benefits of their products.
See FDA tyranny and the censorship of cherry health facts to learn more.

Other health freedom efforts now underway include campaigns to ban
direct-to-consumer drug advertising and end the monopoly on drug prices.
Organizations such as the Life Extension Foundation and Commercial Alert are
supporting grassroots efforts to end the FDA's reign of terror, while many
of the FDA's own drug safety scientists like Dr. David Graham are working
from inside the agency to affect meaningful reform.

While the arrest and prosecution of Tina Carlsen is a clear example of an
out-of-control system of medicine that continues to be enforced at gunpoint,
Carlsen may one day be seen as the Rosa Parks of health freedom. She was the
mother who dared to rescue her baby from the scalpels of overzealous
surgeons, and her incarceration reveals the blatant truth about the motives
of hospitals, doctors and the entire system of modern medicine: Comply with
our medicine, or we will punish you.

As is being pointed out by many critics of Carlsen's treatment, the idea of
whether her baby's condition demanded urgent medical care is not relevant.
It is the right and responsibility of every parent to choose what kind of
treatment their child should receive, even if certain health experts
disagree with such a decision. The State is not the parent, and any State
that would use the threat of violence to enforce the profiteering medical
treatments of powerful corporations is an unjust State.

How old was the infant? 9 months. The boy already got most of the benefits
of breast feeding. The origianl article posted by the OP called
breast-feeding "life-saving." Plenty of infants thrive without breast
feeding. (I firmly believe that breast feeding is best.) None thrive with
untreated kidney failure, which is what the kid had. He needed kidney
dialysis. The surgery was to put in a tube so that the baby could get kidney
dialysis.

The mother wanted to use naturopathic treatment, which is totally useless
for this.

The actions of the court allowing the child to recieve life-saving surgery
was totally appropriate, considering the seriousness of the illness and
uselessness of the treatment the mother was pursuing, IMHO.

The mother pleaded guilty to second-degree custodial interference and
avoided jail time.

The child continues to have life-saving kidney dialysis treatments and is
thriving.

This is a sad case. However, IMHO, the courts and doctors acted
appropriately and in the best interest of the baby.

Jeff

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:vHWEh.1264$Rf7.52@trnddc02...
How old was the infant? 9 months. The boy already got most of the benefits
of breast feeding. The origianl article posted by the OP called
breast-feeding "life-saving." Plenty of infants thrive without breast
feeding. (I firmly believe that breast feeding is best.) None thrive with
untreated kidney failure, which is what the kid had. He needed kidney
dialysis. The surgery was to put in a tube so that the baby could get
kidney dialysis.

The mother wanted to use naturopathic treatment, which is totally useless
for this.

The actions of the court allowing the child to recieve life-saving surgery
was totally appropriate, considering the seriousness of the illness and
uselessness of the treatment the mother was pursuing, IMHO.

The mother pleaded guilty to second-degree custodial interference and
avoided jail time.

The child continues to have life-saving kidney dialysis treatments and is
thriving.

This is a sad case. However, IMHO, the courts and doctors acted
appropriately and in the best interest of the baby.

Jeff


Not surprised as if is well knownw you are here to protect the evils of
conventional medicine.

You also tried to prtoect the FDA for doig it's job, while they were
covering up the truth.

Dishonesty and control seems to be the problem.

The below is fine and dandy with you, how sad.

Amber Alert was issued, which mobilized law
enforcement to arrest the mother. Initially, the alert claimed the child was
in "imminent danger," but this was later contradicted by hospital staff
members who issued a statement admitting the child was not in imminent
danger.

==

Gunpoint medicine
This incident is the latest example of state-sponsored medical terrorism
where parents who do not submit to narrowly-defined "treatments" promoted by
conventional medicine are branded as criminals, arrested at gunpoint, jailed
and forcibly separated from their children by Child Protective Services. A
previous case of medical terrorism involved a Texas teenager who was
kidnapped by authorities and forced to undergo toxic chemotherapy treatments
that her parents desperately insisted on avoiding.
See State-sponsored medical terrorism: Texas authorities arrest parents,
kidnap their teenage daughter, and force her through chemotherapy against
her will.

==
The FDA has confiscated "dangerous" products like
flaxseed oil, herbal tea, vitamin C and CoQ10, all in its quest to save the
public from the terrible dangers of nutritional medicine

Disrupts profits, go to jail
Far from being an industry that seeks to help patients, modern-day medicine
is a profit-seeking industry that depends on sustained sickness to generate
profits for drug companies, hospitals and diagnostic equipment
manufacturers. Police officers, Sheriffs and even U.S. Marshals are
routinely recruited by conventional medicine "enforcers" to terrorize
selected targets in order to send a message to the rest of the population
that they must submit to the treatments of conventional medicine, even when
such treatments are provably harmful to patients or based on fraudulent
science and deceptive marketing claims.
The tactics of such campaigns mirror those of terrorist cells, which rely on
violence or the threat of violence to achieve a political goal.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tx) has introduced the Health Freedom
Protection Act (H.R. 4282), a bill that would help rein in the censorship of
the FDA and finally allow nutritional supplement manufacturers to tell the
truth about the scientifically-validated health benefits of their products.
See FDA tyranny and the censorship of cherry health facts to learn more.

While the arrest and prosecution of Tina Carlsen is a clear example of an
out-of-control system of medicine that continues to be enforced at gunpoint,
Carlsen may one day be seen as the Rosa Parks of health freedom. She was the
mother who dared to rescue her baby from the scalpels of overzealous
surgeons, and her incarceration reveals the blatant truth about the motives
of hospitals, doctors and the entire system of modern medicine: Comply with
our medicine, or we will punish you.

As is being pointed out by many critics of Carlsen's treatment, the idea of
whether her baby's condition demanded urgent medical care is not relevant.
It is the right and responsibility of every parent to choose what kind of
treatment their child should receive, even if certain health experts
disagree with such a decision. The State is not the parent, and any State
that would use the threat of violence to enforce the profiteering medical
treatments of powerful corporations is an unjust State

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
...

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:vHWEh.1264$Rf7.52@trnddc02...
How old was the infant? 9 months. The boy already got most of the
benefits of breast feeding. The origianl article posted by the OP called
breast-feeding "life-saving." Plenty of infants thrive without breast
feeding. (I firmly believe that breast feeding is best.) None thrive with
untreated kidney failure, which is what the kid had. He needed kidney
dialysis. The surgery was to put in a tube so that the baby could get
kidney dialysis.

The mother wanted to use naturopathic treatment, which is totally useless
for this.

The actions of the court allowing the child to recieve life-saving
surgery was totally appropriate, considering the seriousness of the
illness and uselessness of the treatment the mother was pursuing, IMHO.

The mother pleaded guilty to second-degree custodial interference and
avoided jail time.

The child continues to have life-saving kidney dialysis treatments and is
thriving.

This is a sad case. However, IMHO, the courts and doctors acted
appropriately and in the best interest of the baby.

Jeff


Not surprised as if is well knownw you are here to protect the evils of
conventional medicine.

Providing life-saving kidney dialysis for a kid with kidney failure, IMHO,
is not an evil.

Jeff

drivel deleted

"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:vHWEh.1264$Rf7.52@trnddc02...
How old was the infant? 9 months. The boy already got most of the benefits
of breast feeding. The origianl article posted by the OP called
breast-feeding "life-saving." Plenty of infants thrive without breast
feeding. (I firmly believe that breast feeding is best.) None thrive with
untreated kidney failure, which is what the kid had. He needed kidney
dialysis. The surgery was to put in a tube so that the baby could get
kidney dialysis.

The mother wanted to use naturopathic treatment, which is totally useless
for this.

The actions of the court allowing the child to recieve life-saving surgery
was totally appropriate, considering the seriousness of the illness and
uselessness of the treatment the mother was pursuing, IMHO.

The mother pleaded guilty to second-degree custodial interference and
avoided jail time.

The child continues to have life-saving kidney dialysis treatments and is
thriving.

This is a sad case. However, IMHO, the courts and doctors acted
appropriately and in the best interest of the baby.

Jeff


Not surprised as if is well knownw you are here to protect the evils of
conventional medicine.

So you think it would have been better to let the child die? This
would be consistent with your opposition to vaccination, so it doesn't
come as a surprise.

snip repeated justification for killing children by neglect
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In message vHWEh.1264$Rf7.52@trnddc02, Jeff wrote:

How old was the infant? 9 months. The boy already got most of the benefits
of breast feeding. The origianl article posted by the OP called
breast-feeding "life-saving." Plenty of infants thrive without breast
feeding. (I firmly believe that breast feeding is best.) None thrive with
untreated kidney failure, which is what the kid had. He needed kidney
dialysis. The surgery was to put in a tube so that the baby could get kidney
dialysis.

Breast feeding is best, unless the child has a reason why s/he
can't handle it. Think phenylketonuria.

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