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Old December 23rd 07, 04:23 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Judgment call?

Judgment call

http://www.maysville-online.com/arti...al/621wood.txt

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:13 PM EST Print this story | Email this story
In a ironic twist to the Amy Baker case, the judge has asked all parties
involved -- prosecutors, defense lawyers and the defendant -- to judge
whether he should be sitting on the bench for this case.

The Baker case has become one of the highest profile cases in our area
in recent years, meaning every move made by officials involved in the
case is examined under the media microscope. That made the move by Judge
Stockton Wood the latest target for intense scrutiny.

Baker, charged for her alleged role in the death of toddler Marcus
Fiesel, will be among those who will decide if Wood's relationship with
prosecutors make it impossible for him to render impartial decisions in
the Mason County case against Baker. Prosecutors say Baker helped burn
the child's body and dispose of the ashes after he died bound in a
closet at the home of his foster parents where she also lived as the
foster father's lover.

Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for testimony that Ohio
prosecutors say was instrumental in sending foster parents David and Liz
Carroll to prison for the little boy's death. But after learning the
ashes were tossed from the William Harsha Bridge and into Kentucky's
jurisdiction, local law enforcement began an investigation which
eventually resulted in charges being filed against Baker here.

However, Ohio prosecutors have come to Baker's defense and claim Mason
County Attorney John Estill kind of, sort of, maybe also agreed not to
prosecute Baker. Estill says that isn't so. For the record, we tend to
believe him.

Nevertheless, Baker's defense attorneys have not only asked Wood to
decide if Estill is lying but also whether Baker's words spoken in
testimony at the foster parent's trial can be used against her in Kentucky.

Once the question of Estill's credibility was raised, Wood realized he
would be asked to rule on more than legalities in the case. He would, in
essence, be expected to rule on his former law partner's truthfulness.
Not only did Baker and Estill once practice law in the same firm, Estill
remains a law partner with Wood's uncle. The judge must have realized
his ability to remain unbiased would be brought into question.

In a gutsy move, Wood went to those most likely to be affected by his
decisions in the case, the defendant and prosecutor. He asked them to
make the call. If they all agree he can remain impartial, he will stay.
But if any one person doubts his impartiality, he will recuse himself.

While it is true this latest turn of events will further set back a case
that has already seemed to go on for way too long, we still admire Wood
for having the courage to turn the spotlight on himself and ask others
to judge him. That move gives us every confidence in his ability to make
the right and fair decision instead of the easy one, not only in






CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAMS....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...
  #2  
Old December 23rd 07, 06:59 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Judgment call? Greg, is this one of those 'horror' stories you were saying that FX posts by the scores?


"fx" wrote in message
...
Judgment call

http://www.maysville-online.com/arti...al/621wood.txt

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:13 PM EST Print this story | Email this
story
In a ironic twist to the Amy Baker case, the judge has asked all parties
involved -- prosecutors, defense lawyers and the defendant -- to judge
whether he should be sitting on the bench for this case.

The Baker case has become one of the highest profile cases in our area in
recent years, meaning every move made by officials involved in the case is
examined under the media microscope. That made the move by Judge Stockton
Wood the latest target for intense scrutiny.

Baker, charged for her alleged role in the death of toddler Marcus Fiesel,
will be among those who will decide if Wood's relationship with
prosecutors make it impossible for him to render impartial decisions in
the Mason County case against Baker. Prosecutors say Baker helped burn the
child's body and dispose of the ashes after he died bound in a closet at
the home of his foster parents where she also lived as the foster father's
lover.

Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for testimony that Ohio
prosecutors say was instrumental in sending foster parents David and Liz
Carroll to prison for the little boy's death. But after learning the ashes
were tossed from the William Harsha Bridge and into Kentucky's
jurisdiction, local law enforcement began an investigation which
eventually resulted in charges being filed against Baker here.

However, Ohio prosecutors have come to Baker's defense and claim Mason
County Attorney John Estill kind of, sort of, maybe also agreed not to
prosecute Baker. Estill says that isn't so. For the record, we tend to
believe him.

Nevertheless, Baker's defense attorneys have not only asked Wood to decide
if Estill is lying but also whether Baker's words spoken in testimony at
the foster parent's trial can be used against her in Kentucky.

Once the question of Estill's credibility was raised, Wood realized he
would be asked to rule on more than legalities in the case. He would, in
essence, be expected to rule on his former law partner's truthfulness. Not
only did Baker and Estill once practice law in the same firm, Estill
remains a law partner with Wood's uncle. The judge must have realized his
ability to remain unbiased would be brought into question.

In a gutsy move, Wood went to those most likely to be affected by his
decisions in the case, the defendant and prosecutor. He asked them to make
the call. If they all agree he can remain impartial, he will stay. But if
any one person doubts his impartiality, he will recuse himself.

While it is true this latest turn of events will further set back a case
that has already seemed to go on for way too long, we still admire Wood
for having the courage to turn the spotlight on himself and ask others to
judge him. That move gives us every confidence in his ability to make the
right and fair decision instead of the easy one, not only in






CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY
BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY
AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAMS....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are
supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000
children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills
more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this
country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No
judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency
because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human
being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations
and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When
are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to
their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes
based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers.


CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, HAPPILY DESTROYING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT
FAMILIES YEARLY NATIONWIDE AND COMING TO YOU'RE HOME SOON...


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING
OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A
STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE
"FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...



  #3  
Old December 23rd 07, 08:14 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

What's the question, Betty?
Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story? Yes.

Problem kid, no help for real Mom.
System placed kid with a Foster Threesome.
They wrapped the kid up and stuck him in a closet while
they went to a family reunion. He died from heat.
They tried to burn his body in fireplace remaining from
the wreckage of a long gone house.
Then they threw his body in the river.

What exactly is unclear about the death of Marcus Fiesel?
The immediate article is about honoring plea/immunity deals.

Subject title: (Betty asked)
Judgment call? Greg, is this one of those 'horror' stories
you were saying that FX posts by the scores?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Fiesel

Marcus Fiesel was an American foster care child murder victim.
On February 21, 2007 his foster mother Liz Carroll was convicted of
murdering him.
On, February 26, 2007, it was announced attorneys for his foster
father, David Carroll had reached a plea agreement, which was
finalized on Tuesday, February 27 at 8:30 A.M. (EST).

  #4  
Old December 23rd 07, 03:09 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
dragonsgirl
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?

"Greegor" wrote in message
...
What's the question, Betty?
Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story? Yes.

Problem kid, no help for real Mom.
System placed kid with a Foster Threesome.
They wrapped the kid up and stuck him in a closet while
they went to a family reunion. He died from heat.
They tried to burn his body in fireplace remaining from
the wreckage of a long gone house.
Then they threw his body in the river.

What exactly is unclear about the death of Marcus Fiesel?
The immediate article is about honoring plea/immunity deals.

Subject title: (Betty asked)
Judgment call? Greg, is this one of those 'horror' stories
you were saying that FX posts by the scores?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Fiesel

Marcus Fiesel was an American foster care child murder victim.
On February 21, 2007 his foster mother Liz Carroll was convicted of
murdering him.
On, February 26, 2007, it was announced attorneys for his foster
father, David Carroll had reached a plea agreement, which was
finalized on Tuesday, February 27 at 8:30 A.M. (EST).



  #5  
Old December 26th 07, 01:56 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

On Dec 23, 9:09*am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:
The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?



The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.
Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?

Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.

"Greegor" wrote in message

...



What's the question, Betty?
Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story? * Yes.


Problem kid, no help for real Mom.
System placed kid with a Foster Threesome.
They wrapped the kid up and stuck him in a closet while
they went to a family reunion. * He died from heat.
They tried to burn his body in fireplace remaining from
the wreckage of a long gone house.
Then they threw his body in the river.


What exactly is unclear about the death of Marcus Fiesel?
The immediate article is about honoring plea/immunity deals.


Subject title: (Betty asked)
Judgment call? Greg, is this one of those 'horror' stories
you were saying that FX posts by the scores?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Fiesel


Marcus Fiesel was an American foster care child murder victim.
On February 21, 2007 his foster mother Liz Carroll was convicted of
murdering him.
On, February 26, 2007, it was announced attorneys for his foster
father, David Carroll had reached a plea agreement, which was
finalized on Tuesday, February 27 at 8:30 A.M. (EST).


  #6  
Old December 26th 07, 06:14 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
dragonsgirl
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?


"Greegor" wrote in message
...
On Dec 23, 9:09 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:
The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his
prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?



The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.
Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?

Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.

So?
What's your point?


"Greegor" wrote in message

...



What's the question, Betty?
Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story? Yes.


Problem kid, no help for real Mom.
System placed kid with a Foster Threesome.
They wrapped the kid up and stuck him in a closet while
they went to a family reunion. He died from heat.
They tried to burn his body in fireplace remaining from
the wreckage of a long gone house.
Then they threw his body in the river.


What exactly is unclear about the death of Marcus Fiesel?
The immediate article is about honoring plea/immunity deals.


Subject title: (Betty asked)
Judgment call? Greg, is this one of those 'horror' stories
you were saying that FX posts by the scores?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Fiesel


Marcus Fiesel was an American foster care child murder victim.
On February 21, 2007 his foster mother Liz Carroll was convicted of
murdering him.
On, February 26, 2007, it was announced attorneys for his foster
father, David Carroll had reached a plea agreement, which was
finalized on Tuesday, February 27 at 8:30 A.M. (EST).



  #7  
Old December 26th 07, 06:35 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking
Dan Sullivan
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

On Dec 25, 8:56 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:09 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:

The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?


The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.


As usual, greg you fail to comprehend the situation.

There was an immunity deal made in Ohio.

There is a claim that a similar deal was also made in Kentucky.

Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?


Two different states, two different jurisdictions.

Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.


You're such a moron, greg.

Amy Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for her testimony
that was used to convict David and Liz Carroll.

It was only after Baker's statement revealed the ashes of the child
were dumped into Kentucky jurisdiction that the question of the second
state's alleged immunity deal became an issue.

IOW if the ashes were dumped in Ohio none of this would be taking
place.

The Ohio Judge is NOT clairvoyant!

Do you really expect him to be?

  #8  
Old December 26th 07, 07:10 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking
Greegor
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

On Dec 26, 12:35*pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Dec 25, 8:56 pm, Greegor wrote:

On Dec 23, 9:09 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:


The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?


The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.


As usual, greg you fail to comprehend the situation.

There was an immunity deal made in Ohio.

There is a claim that a similar deal was also made in Kentucky.

Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?


Two different states, two different jurisdictions.

Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.


You're such a moron, greg.

Amy Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for her testimony
that was used to convict David and Liz Carroll.

It was only after Baker's statement revealed the ashes of the child
were dumped into Kentucky jurisdiction that the question of the second
state's alleged immunity deal became an issue.

IOW if the ashes were dumped in Ohio none of this would be taking
place.

The Ohio Judge is NOT clairvoyant!

Do you really expect him to be?


Did you actually READ this, Dan?

From the original news story:

However, Ohio prosecutors have come to Baker's defense and claim
Mason
County Attorney John Estill kind of, sort of, maybe also agreed not
to
prosecute Baker. Estill says that isn't so. For the record, we tend
to
believe him.

Nevertheless, Baker's defense attorneys have not only asked Wood to
decide if Estill is lying but also whether Baker's words spoken in
testimony at the foster parent's trial can be used against her in
Kentucky.

Once the question of Estill's credibility was raised, Wood realized
he
would be asked to rule on more than legalities in the case. He would,
in
essence, be expected to rule on his former law partner's
truthfulness.
Not only did Baker and Estill once practice law in the same firm,
Estill
remains a law partner with Wood's uncle. The judge must have realized
his ability to remain unbiased would be brought into question.




  #9  
Old December 26th 07, 08:03 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking
Dan Sullivan
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

On Dec 26, 2:10 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Dec 26, 12:35 pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:



On Dec 25, 8:56 pm, Greegor wrote:


On Dec 23, 9:09 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:


The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?


The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.


As usual, greg you fail to comprehend the situation.


There was an immunity deal made in Ohio.


There is a claim that a similar deal was also made in Kentucky.


Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?


Two different states, two different jurisdictions.


Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.


You're such a moron, greg.


Amy Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for her testimony
that was used to convict David and Liz Carroll.


It was only after Baker's statement revealed the ashes of the child
were dumped into Kentucky jurisdiction that the question of the second
state's alleged immunity deal became an issue.


IOW if the ashes were dumped in Ohio none of this would be taking
place.


The Ohio Judge is NOT clairvoyant!


Do you really expect him to be?


Did you actually READ this, Dan?

From the original news story:

However, Ohio prosecutors have come to Baker's defense and claim
Mason
County Attorney John Estill kind of, sort of, maybe also agreed not
to
prosecute Baker. Estill says that isn't so. For the record, we tend
to
believe him.

Nevertheless, Baker's defense attorneys have not only asked Wood to
decide if Estill is lying but also whether Baker's words spoken in
testimony at the foster parent's trial can be used against her in
Kentucky.

Once the question of Estill's credibility was raised, Wood realized
he
would be asked to rule on more than legalities in the case. He would,
in
essence, be expected to rule on his former law partner's
truthfulness.
Not only did Baker and Estill once practice law in the same firm,
Estill
remains a law partner with Wood's uncle. The judge must have realized
his ability to remain unbiased would be brought into question.


Your point is?

And I still ask you, do you think the Judge is clairvoyant?
  #10  
Old December 26th 07, 08:21 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services, alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, misc.legal
Greegor
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Default Is a dead foster kid rolled up in the closet a horror story?

On Dec 26, 2:03*pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Dec 26, 2:10 pm, Greegor wrote:





On Dec 26, 12:35 pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:


On Dec 25, 8:56 pm, Greegor wrote:


On Dec 23, 9:09 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote:


The article, Greg, was about the judge having concerns that he may not be
capable of being fair when hearing the case.
Do you think that the judge, recognizing that it was possible that his prior
relationship with the defendant, was a CPS horror story?


The hearing would not be taking place AT ALL except
there is a dispute about the plea/immunity deals made.


As usual, greg you fail to comprehend the situation.


There was an immunity deal made in Ohio.


There is a claim that a similar deal was also made in Kentucky.


Particularly since two adjacent states were involved.
Can a person get immunity from two states at once
if they turn states evidence to make a case?


Two different states, two different jurisdictions.


Judges are supposed to avoid even the hint of a conflict
so asking the question even reveals a problem.


You're such a moron, greg.


Amy Baker was given immunity in Ohio in exchange for her testimony
that was used to convict David and Liz Carroll.


It was only after Baker's statement revealed the ashes of the child
were dumped into Kentucky jurisdiction that the question of the second
state's alleged immunity deal became an issue.


DS IOW if the ashes were dumped in Ohio
DS none of this would be taking place.

If the KY dumping wasn't known then why was
OHIO Mason County Attorney John Estill involved?
(You didn't really READ the article did you Dan?)

DS The Ohio Judge is NOT clairvoyant!
DS Do you really expect him to be?

G Did you actually READ this, Dan?

From the original news story:

However, Ohio prosecutors have come to Baker's defense and
claim Mason County Attorney John Estill kind of, sort of,
maybe also agreed not to prosecute Baker. Estill says
that isn't so. For the record, we tend to believe him.

Nevertheless, Baker's defense attorneys have not only
asked Wood to decide if Estill is lying but also whether
Baker's words spoken in testimony at the foster parent's
trial can be used against her in Kentucky.

Once the question of Estill's credibility was raised,
Wood realized he would be asked to rule on more
than legalities in the case. He would, in essence,
be expected to rule on his former law partner's
truthfulness. Not only did Baker and Estill once
practice law in the same firm, Estill remains a
law partner with Wood's uncle. The judge must
have realized his ability to remain unbiased
would be brought into question.

DS Your point is?
DS And I still ask you, do you think the Judge is clairvoyant?

You didn't read the original news article did you Dan?
 




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