I need a little advice regarding child support

hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean, the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.) In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do. The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October. His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now? Is there any way of finding
him? Will I have to hire a private investigator? Is there a way of tracing
him through his SSN? What if he changes his SSN? What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada? While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas on
what I could do and who I should turn to? This guy also has lots of weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open to
ideas.
I'd appreciate it.

--
"Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it.
You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

"slykitten" wrote in message
...
hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my
ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean,
the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.) In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of
court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do.
The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October.
His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now? Is there any way of
finding
him? Will I have to hire a private investigator? Is there a way of tracing
him through his SSN? What if he changes his SSN? What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada? While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas on
what I could do and who I should turn to? This guy also has lots of
weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge
took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open to
ideas.
I'd appreciate it.

Yes.......forget about it. Stop spending your time an energy trying to
get even/revenge/whatever against your ex and get on with your life.




--
"Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it.
You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:30:33 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote:

Yes.......forget about it. Stop spending your time an energy trying to
get even/revenge/whatever against your ex and get on with your life.

She isn't trying to get revenge Paul, those are your issues, she is
trying to get child support. She says so very clearly.

In the end Sly, it amounts to the same thing tho. It is likely you
would be pouring good money after bad. Ask your lawyer how realistic
are your chances of getting anything .... take his or her advice

steveb

"steveb" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:30:33 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote:

Yes.......forget about it. Stop spending your time an energy trying to
get even/revenge/whatever against your ex and get on with your life.

She isn't trying to get revenge Paul, those are your issues, she is
trying to get child support. She says so very clearly.

Clueless as usual aren't you stevey.........and as usual....you ASSumptions
show what you are.



In the end Sly, it amounts to the same thing tho. It is likely you
would be pouring good money after bad. Ask your lawyer how realistic
are your chances of getting anything .... take his or her advice

steveb

"slykitten" wrote in message
...

I need a little advice on how to proceed.....

It sounds like you've gotten along for 7 years without child support.

If your ex is in contempt of court, leave it up to the state to find him -
things like driver's license renewal, car registration, and bank accounts
have ties into the state's "deadbeat mom/dad" system, and will do strange
things to him. No reason for you to waste your energy getting involved. I
assume since you appeared by phone and he didn't appear, that he still lives
in your "home" state. So it doesn't sound as if you need to worry about
defending yourself either.

-Ron

"slykitten" wrote in message
...
hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean, the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.) In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do. The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October. His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now? Is there any way of finding
him? Will I have to hire a private investigator? Is there a way of tracing
him through his SSN? What if he changes his SSN? What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada? While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas on
what I could do and who I should turn to? This guy also has lots of weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open to
ideas.
I'd appreciate it.

--
"Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it.
You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery



Was there a bench warrant issued, for sure?
He will eventually be caught up with, b/c he can not cross a border without
some sort of run on his Driver's License which , in turn, will pop up in NCIC
as a warrant. Now is the time to contact the DA in the state which the hearing
took place. Be persistant. Some places will extradite or bring him back to the
place of offense, but I am going to be quite honest: if it were murder, they
would....child support, they usually don't. But they will call to see if the
offending agency wants to get him or not.
No need for an attorney. I went pro se. Just email me privately and I will
help you out.
V

"V" wrote in message
...

"slykitten" wrote in message
...
hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my
ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean,
the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.)
In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex
never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up
to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of
court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has
a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do.
The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October.
His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now? Is there any way of
finding
him? Will I have to hire a private investigator? Is there a way of
tracing
him through his SSN? What if he changes his SSN? What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada? While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas
on
what I could do and who I should turn to? This guy also has lots of
weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge
took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open
to
ideas.
I'd appreciate it.

--
"Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it.
You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery



Was there a bench warrant issued, for sure?
He will eventually be caught up with, b/c he can not cross a border
without
some sort of run on his Driver's License which , in turn, will pop up in
NCIC
as a warrant. Now is the time to contact the DA in the state which the
hearing
took place. Be persistant. Some places will extradite or bring him back to
the
place of offense, but I am going to be quite honest: if it were murder,
they
would....child support, they usually don't. But they will call to see if
the
offending agency wants to get him or not.
No need for an attorney. I went pro se. Just email me privately and I will
help you out.
V


And you are wrong once again......I cross the border all the time without a
license check

"slykitten" wrote in message
...
hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean, the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.) In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do. The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October. His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now?

Let the controlling state issue a bench warrant, if they will - they'll catch up
with him the next time he tries to get a hunting/fishing license, renew his
driver's license, or gets stopped for a traffic infraction. Meanwhile, you can
contact the controlling CS Enforcement agency, and request Enforcement,
specifically Tax Intercepts. Request it every year.

Is there any way of finding
him? Realistically? They won't work real hard at it unless you go on
Welfare, because then the state wants their own money back.

Will I have to hire a private investigator?

You could, but it probably would cost more than it's worth.

Is there a way of tracing
him through his SSN?

Yes. CS Enforcement in the controlling state can check his earnings as recorded
by Social Security - and they should be able to tell where he's working.

What if he changes his SSN?

Not likely - it's a gigantic issue to do that.

What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada?

Then you're going to be out of luck unless and until he comes back, and even
then only if there's a flag on his passport AND it's checked at the border.
I've gone from US to Canada multiple times without ever having to show a
passport.

While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas on
what I could do and who I should turn to?

Annoy the hell out of Child Support Enforcement, but do it nicely - don't ****
'em off, or they'll conveniently lose your file. Be persistant, and frame it in
the way of asking for their help.

This guy also has lots of weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open to
ideas.

If he's in another state, then I wouldn't worry about that one.

After turning it over to CSE and requesting the annual tax intercepts, see if
you can get a child support lien against any property he owns - that would be
real estate, cars - again, it won't do you a whole lotta good unless he tries to
sell the asset, but it's better than nothing.

After that, enjoy your kid(s) - he's missing a whole lot more than you are.


I'd appreciate it.

--
"Many have forgotten this truth, but you must not forget it.
You remain responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
~Antoine de Saint-Exupery

"slykitten" wrote in message ...
hi,
I need a little advice on how to proceed.....
October 7th of this year there was a hearing regarding child support. my ex
owes it in a big way! The hearing was a "motion to show cause and
intervene." I appeared by phone because the hearing was held in my home
state and I moved to a different state. (when I say "home state" I mean, the
state I lived in my entire life up until I left the creep 7 years ago.) In
some ways, I felt kinda like I got slapped across the face.... my ex never
showed up! This was a hearing that I actually wanted him to show up to!!!
So he's now in a heap load of trouble. He's been found in contempt of court
and of course, we know the repercussions of that (I'm avoiding saying
certain things because this guy admitted once to "checking up" on me via
internet.) A week later, he never appeared for a second court hearing
regarding a traffic ticket and was also found in violation and so he has a
second set of issues. He's on the run. I'm not sure what else I can do. The
sad thing is that his precious mommy has helped him to hide from the laws
that enforce child support. He's had his own business for a while which
"mysteriously" disappeared about 2 weeks before the hearing in October. His
mother was listed as the "owner" and he was listed as the "lead technical
supervisor" so we knew he had a job, he was just getting paid under the
table.
I guess that my questions are, What do I do now? Is there any way of finding
him? Will I have to hire a private investigator? Is there a way of tracing
him through his SSN? What if he changes his SSN? What if he's run off to
someplace like Mexico or Canada? While I realize that there may not be an
easy way of doing any of this, can someone at least offer me some ideas on
what I could do and who I should turn to? This guy also has lots of weapons.
My attempts at getting a restraining order has failed because the judge took
his side when he and his precious mommy both claimed that all he does is
"collects" guns. I'm now in a position where I have to protect myself
because the law won't do it. I feel kinda left in limbo.... So I'm open to
ideas.
I'd appreciate it.

If it were me, I would be afraid to fight this one any longer. I would
be afraid that he'd or they'd pull a kidnapping/abduction or
something. I would let him live his life and leave him alone with
whatever money he is stealing from you and your family.

Karen

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...

And you are wrong once again......I cross the border all the time without
a
license check

Country borders? (i.e. into Mexico or Canada)?

-Ron