Don't know if you'll remember me.... but I need your help~!

Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this guy is
saying. It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens. Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

TO

(Carla) wrote in message . com...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

Hello,
Have your talk with the principal and insist she be put in another class, if it
starts out bad , it will only get worse. Also, don't wait for the principal to
call you back, just go in. You could have her in another class by tomorrow. This
is advice I regret not following. Good luck !!
Debi

"Deb" wrote in message
m...
(Carla) wrote in message
. com...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

Hello,
Have your talk with the principal and insist she be put in another class,
if it
starts out bad , it will only get worse. Also, don't wait for the
principal to
call you back, just go in. You could have her in another class by
tomorrow. This
is advice I regret not following. Good luck !!
Debi

And advice I wished I'd followed too some years back too.

Dolores

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..

It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the classroom.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our children leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand up and
make ourselves heard.....

Sorry Tiffany....but I must disagree with everything you've said in the
strongest possible terms...

Dolores


TO

"Carla" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

Seems to me Carla that you are doing all the right things. You are being
calm, level headed and giving this guy enough string to hang himself...I
also 100% agree with your not sending your daughter back etc...

When you go and see the principal bring last years reports and evidence of
your daughters work with you. Also, see if the previous years teacher would
attend the meeting if she is willing....this guy sounds like he should be
fired...yesterday..and its teachers like him that result in so many poorly
educated children.

Also, if he were a manager in industry and behaved in this way towards one
of his team/employees the employee would have good grounds for a
constructive dismissal case.......and since his remit is to educate....then
his behaviour is even more unacceptable....

Btw, have you asked any other parents if they;ve experienced any problems
with him?

Let us know how you got on.

Dolores

dolores wrote in message
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's
having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..


As of yet, there is no effect this year. Atleast nothing is posted that the
child is having a hard time this year.


It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not
accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the classroom.

Its not acceptable in whose work place? Everyone deals with others
differently. This man may appear to be 'mean'... maybe he is a tougher
teacher and expects more. Maybe he is dead on about the child too.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....

Maybe the kid will be damaged if she is catered too also. The child is in
second grade..... no ill comments have been made to the child. The mother is
the one hurt right now.

It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our children
leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand up and
make ourselves heard.....

We are lucky for any education the kids get and if its second rate...
educate your kid yourself. Its not just the teachers who should be teaching
the kids. I teach my kid that not everyone is going to be the way she wants
them to be. As for all these bad teachers..... can't say I have met one yet.
My daughter is in 7th grade... maybe we will meet a bad one. Even the one
teacher that seemed to be hard on her, felt as though he was being pretty
tough on her, she had a fine year, was NOT damaged by it. If asked today,
she would say she liked him. Why is a teacher only a bad teacher when they
do or say something a parent doesn't like?


Sorry Tiffany....but I must disagree with everything you've said in the
strongest possible terms...

Dolores


TO

"Tiffany" wrote in message ...

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this guy is
saying.

My daughter ended up with good grades last year, because she got a new
teacher. I don't know if it would have ended up that way with this
guy. I worry alot about what he is saying, because he is ademently
implying that she is ADD or has a learning disability, when infact,
she does not.

It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

It's not going to be my daughters problem if I can help it.

Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

What if her grades go down, because of his dislike? Or what if it
causes her self esteem to go down. No, I will not tolerate this
without accurate basis for the phrases and words he used to describe
her. It's wrong, he is wrong and outright rude. He has NEVER said a
positive thing about her. I have the doctor to back me up, as well
last years grades, plus 2 previous years in private school. They give
NO indication that there are any behavioral or learning problems.
NONE.

I can't sit back, and let this man belittle her, the age is to
critical. I can see that she has become shy, and timid, and feels like
the dumbest kid in the class. She comes out of that school balling
over the craziest things. Last time I picked her up, she was a mess,
in total tears. When I asked her what was wrong, she exclaimed "the
zipper on my back pack broke". That is not my child, she knows darn
well there are 2 other back packs at home, and if they won't do, I'd
get her a new one.

Thanks for the advice, but I can't sit on my hands over this one.
Sometimes it is the right thing to do, by being quiet and letting it
pass, but this is her education. Aside from health, it's very
important.

C.
TO

(Deb) wrote in message om...

Hello,
Have your talk with the principal and insist she be put in another class, if it
starts out bad , it will only get worse.

I agree Deb, and I contacted the principal the second day of school. I
left a message and the principal did not get back to me. I avoided
conversations with her teacher until last night. I kept her home
today, and called the school after I got back from the pediatrician
who was a bit in shock over all this. The principal was sick. I told
the secretary, that I want to speak with her the minute she gets back,
and that this is the second message. I also documented everything, and
wrote a letter to the teacher, letting him know, from now on, any
concerns he has needs to be put in writting.

Also, don't wait for the principal to
call you back, just go in.

I will be there first thing in the morning. I don't want her in this
guys class!


You could have her in another class by tomorrow. This
is advice I regret not following. Good luck !!
Debi

I'm following it, believe me. Thanks for this and the good wishes.

C.

"dolores" wrote in message ...
"Tiffany" wrote in message
...
What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..

This is my big concern. I was lucky last year that they shuffled the
kids and she got switched, I hope I can convince the principal that
she is in a bad situation.

It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the classroom.

That is right. I totally agree, and I will fight tooth and nail with
ferocious and fierce tenacity so my kid can have what is best for her.
I will let you know the outcome hopefully tomorrow.

C.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our children leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand up and
make ourselves heard.....

Sorry Tiffany....but I must disagree with everything you've said in the
strongest possible terms...

Dolores


TO