Don't know if you'll remember me.... but I need your help~!

"dolores" wrote in message ...

Seems to me Carla that you are doing all the right things. You are being
calm, level headed and giving this guy enough string to hang himself...I
also 100% agree with your not sending your daughter back etc...

When you go and see the principal bring last years reports and evidence of
your daughters work with you. Also, see if the previous years teacher would
attend the meeting if she is willing....this guy sounds like he should be
fired...yesterday..and its teachers like him that result in so many poorly
educated children.

Also, if he were a manager in industry and behaved in this way towards one
of his team/employees the employee would have good grounds for a
constructive dismissal case.......and since his remit is to educate....then
his behaviour is even more unacceptable....

Btw, have you asked any other parents if they;ve experienced any problems
with him?

Yes, and I know 2 kids who are now on major drugs. This teacher used
to teach grade 8 at the same school. One of the kids went off the
dexidrine and cloba something and is fine this year. He is just fine.
The other child is still on ritalin, and doing well with some
associated adverse reactions. (not real bad) I think this teacher just
wants the easiest way out. Seems he has convinced alot of parents that
thier kids have problems. There are 3 parents I know of who share the
same concerns right now. The kids I spoke of who were/are on meds are
from previous years. I'v lived here a very long time and know almost
everyone.

Let us know how you got on.

I will, hopefully, tomorrow in the AM.

Thanks to all of you who replied. I will be bringing in her past
history to the principal too! BTW, the principal handed her the "All
Star" reading award last year, so I don't think she will fall for this
guys words either, or she'll have some explaining to do.

C.
Dolores

Carla wrote in message
m...
"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this guy
is
saying.

My daughter ended up with good grades last year, because she got a new
teacher. I don't know if it would have ended up that way with this
guy. I worry alot about what he is saying, because he is ademently
implying that she is ADD or has a learning disability, when infact,
she does not.

It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

It's not going to be my daughters problem if I can help it.

Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped meeting
with him.

What if her grades go down, because of his dislike? Or what if it
causes her self esteem to go down. No, I will not tolerate this
without accurate basis for the phrases and words he used to describe
her. It's wrong, he is wrong and outright rude. He has NEVER said a
positive thing about her. I have the doctor to back me up, as well
last years grades, plus 2 previous years in private school. They give
NO indication that there are any behavioral or learning problems.
NONE.

I can't sit back, and let this man belittle her, the age is to
critical. I can see that she has become shy, and timid, and feels like
the dumbest kid in the class. She comes out of that school balling
over the craziest things. Last time I picked her up, she was a mess,
in total tears. When I asked her what was wrong, she exclaimed "the
zipper on my back pack broke". That is not my child, she knows darn
well there are 2 other back packs at home, and if they won't do, I'd
get her a new one.

Thanks for the advice, but I can't sit on my hands over this one.
Sometimes it is the right thing to do, by being quiet and letting it
pass, but this is her education. Aside from health, it's very
important.

C.
TO

Your welcome..... thanks for reading and commenting in a polite manner. I do
hope things work out well for her. I do wish the education system was better
but that is why we as parents have to also educate our kids. It gets a
parent down when they see their child crying. May I ask if her father is in
her life? I only ask that because the one teacher that I mentioned in the
previous post also happen to be my daughters first male teacher and thought
maybe she might have a hard time with a man??? I don't know if there is any
concrete info to back that up so if it sounds way out there.... ignore it.

T

"Carla" wrote in message
om...
"dolores" wrote in message
...

Seems to me Carla that you are doing all the right things. You are
being
calm, level headed and giving this guy enough string to hang himself...I
also 100% agree with your not sending your daughter back etc...

When you go and see the principal bring last years reports and evidence
of
your daughters work with you. Also, see if the previous years teacher
would
attend the meeting if she is willing....this guy sounds like he should
be
fired...yesterday..and its teachers like him that result in so many
poorly
educated children.

Also, if he were a manager in industry and behaved in this way towards
one
of his team/employees the employee would have good grounds for a
constructive dismissal case.......and since his remit is to
educate....then
his behaviour is even more unacceptable....

Btw, have you asked any other parents if they;ve experienced any
problems
with him?

Yes, and I know 2 kids who are now on major drugs. This teacher used
to teach grade 8 at the same school. One of the kids went off the
dexidrine and cloba something and is fine this year. He is just fine.
The other child is still on ritalin, and doing well with some
associated adverse reactions. (not real bad) I think this teacher just
wants the easiest way out. Seems he has convinced alot of parents that
thier kids have problems. There are 3 parents I know of who share the
same concerns right now. The kids I spoke of who were/are on meds are
from previous years. I'v lived here a very long time and know almost
everyone.

Think you should question whether this guy should be allowed near any kids.
May be you should ask around and see if the other parents would be
interested in doing something about him. He's done a lot of damage by the s
ounds of it and God knows how the next child might respond to him.

I know from experience that a teacher can do serious damage to a 7 y/o. My
son lost all confidence and self-believe, the teacher even had the nerve to
tell me that he didnt take life seriously enough. He was 7 at the time,
started having really vivid and bad dreams, crying for no reason, migraines
and generally agitated. He ended up being signed off sick by the doctor for
stress!...

To this day I so so regret leaving my child in that school and in the hands
of what I considered monsters.


Dolores

Let us know how you got on.

I will, hopefully, tomorrow in the AM.

Thanks to all of you who replied. I will be bringing in her past
history to the principal too! BTW, the principal handed her the "All
Star" reading award last year, so I don't think she will fall for this
guys words either, or she'll have some explaining to do.

C.
Dolores

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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dolores wrote in message
...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She
had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire
year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this
guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's
having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..


As of yet, there is no effect this year. Atleast nothing is posted that
the
child is having a hard time this year.


It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not
accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the classroom.

Its not acceptable in whose work place?

Anybodys' workplace Tiffany

Everyone deals with others
differently.

Yes, In a professional, curteous and respectful manner.

This man may appear to be 'mean'... maybe he is a tougher
teacher and expects more.

Qualities more suited to a juvenile deliquents establishment, not a kiddies
school.

Maybe he is dead on about the child too.

And even if he was...I'd still say his approach was unaceptable.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like
her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped
meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....

Maybe the kid will be damaged if she is catered too also. The child is in
second grade..... no ill comments have been made to the child. The mother
is
the one hurt right now.


It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our children
leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand up
and
make ourselves heard.....

We are lucky for any education the kids get and if its second rate...
educate your kid yourself.

And this is the reason why even the Irish drop-outs are better educated than
the American High School achievers.....

Its not just the teachers who should be teaching
the kids. I teach my kid that not everyone is going to be the way she
wants
them to be.

In others words to accept second best.

As for all these bad teachers..... can't say I have met one yet.

Well given what you've written above it's no wonder. Your child probably
wouldnt tell you.

My daughter is in 7th grade... maybe we will meet a bad one. Even the one
teacher that seemed to be hard on her, felt as though he was being pretty
tough on her, she had a fine year, was NOT damaged by it. If asked today,
she would say she liked him.

Count yourself as being very very lucky then. My 2nd son is one of the
lucky ones he always had really lovely teachers and he adored them all...My
eldest is a whole different story though.

Why is a teacher only a bad teacher when they
do or say something a parent doesn't like?

Dunno about you Tiffany, but I'm old enough to know the difference between
right and wrong..acceptable and unaceptable..

I'm also well informed on the frameworks and guidelines in place that
educators of young children should follow...Not only that teaching is a
vocation...not merely a job...But above all ever teacher has a duty of care
towards our children as outlined in any teaching post remit.

Dolores








Sorry Tiffany....but I must disagree with everything you've said in the
strongest possible terms...

Dolores


TO

dolores wrote in message
...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

dolores wrote in message
...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade
1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out
of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with
straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to
a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She
had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire
year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what this
guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's
having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..


As of yet, there is no effect this year. Atleast nothing is posted that
the
child is having a hard time this year.


It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not
accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the
classroom.

Its not acceptable in whose work place?

Anybodys' workplace Tiffany

Everyone deals with others
differently.

Yes, In a professional, curteous and respectful manner.

This man may appear to be 'mean'... maybe he is a tougher
teacher and expects more.

Qualities more suited to a juvenile deliquents establishment, not a
kiddies
school.

Maybe he is dead on about the child too.

And even if he was...I'd still say his approach was unaceptable.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly like
her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped
meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....

Damaged? LMAO..... no I don't think if she becomes damaged that I can blame
it on one teacher many years ago.


Maybe the kid will be damaged if she is catered too also. The child is
in
second grade..... no ill comments have been made to the child. The
mother
is
the one hurt right now.


It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our children
leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand up
and
make ourselves heard.....

We are lucky for any education the kids get and if its second rate...
educate your kid yourself.

And this is the reason why even the Irish drop-outs are better educated
than
the American High School achievers.....

Its not just the teachers who should be teaching
the kids. I teach my kid that not everyone is going to be the way she
wants
them to be.

In others words to accept second best.

Its not accepting second best.... its accepting people for who they are. Not
everyone comes about as the kindest person in the world. Look at youself.


As for all these bad teachers..... can't say I have met one yet.

Well given what you've written above it's no wonder. Your child probably
wouldnt tell you.

My daughter is in 7th grade... maybe we will meet a bad one. Even the
one
teacher that seemed to be hard on her, felt as though he was being
pretty
tough on her, she had a fine year, was NOT damaged by it. If asked
today,
she would say she liked him.

Count yourself as being very very lucky then. My 2nd son is one of the
lucky ones he always had really lovely teachers and he adored them
all...My
eldest is a whole different story though.

Why is a teacher only a bad teacher when they
do or say something a parent doesn't like?

Dunno about you Tiffany, but I'm old enough to know the difference between
right and wrong..acceptable and unaceptable..

I'm also well informed on the frameworks and guidelines in place that
educators of young children should follow...Not only that teaching is a
vocation...not merely a job...But above all ever teacher has a duty of
care
towards our children as outlined in any teaching post remit.

Dolores






You can tell the difference between right and wrong? You don't think its ok
to be rude but have in turn insulted me and my parenting skills and through
in a bit about who Irish are better then USA students. Hmm... yeah, ok. Have
a nice day.

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

dolores wrote in message
...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

dolores wrote in message
...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
...

Carla wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters
grade
1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out
of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year,
and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with
straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That
particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The
report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful.
My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year
to
a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine.
She
had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire
year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and
was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what
this
guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect he's
having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..


As of yet, there is no effect this year. Atleast nothing is posted
that
the
child is having a hard time this year.


It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not
accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the
classroom.

Its not acceptable in whose work place?

Anybodys' workplace Tiffany

Everyone deals with others
differently.

Yes, In a professional, curteous and respectful manner.

This man may appear to be 'mean'... maybe he is a tougher
teacher and expects more.

Qualities more suited to a juvenile deliquents establishment, not a
kiddies
school.

Maybe he is dead on about the child too.

And even if he was...I'd still say his approach was unaceptable.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly
like
her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped
meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....

Damaged? LMAO..... no I don't think if she becomes damaged that I can
blame
it on one teacher many years ago.

Ok, lets use your logic then, shall we!....

You are saying that in no way could the negativity of one person, say a
teacher have a life long and deeply profound affect on a child ....

Then you must agree that the converse is also true....that in no way could
the *positive* words or actions, have a profoundly inspirational effect

Maybe you havent given this topic the depth of thought that maybe you
should......as a mother. There are an amazing amount of children, now
adults, that have their teachers to thank for their expertise or
world-renowned talent....and conversely.....need I continue!?!?!

Our children are a product of what we feed them, physically, spiritually,
morally and most important...mentally! Our opinion of it is neither here
nor there, what matters is how it's impacted on our children.



Maybe the kid will be damaged if she is catered too also. The child is
in
second grade..... no ill comments have been made to the child. The
mother
is
the one hurt right now.


It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our
children
leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away
with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand
up
and
make ourselves heard.....

We are lucky for any education the kids get and if its second rate...
educate your kid yourself.

And this is the reason why even the Irish drop-outs are better educated
than
the American High School achievers.....

Its not just the teachers who should be teaching
the kids. I teach my kid that not everyone is going to be the way she
wants
them to be.

In others words to accept second best.

Its not accepting second best.... its accepting people for who they are.

Accepting people for who they are....does not mean what you seem to think it
does. Then, when your child comes home from school, distraught, crying,
hurt, ...your response will be.....Ah, get over it....if it's the worse
thing you ever experience then you'll be doing well......

Not
everyone comes about as the kindest person in the world. Look at youself.

I very much doubt I'm a perfect mother....indeed I'm far from it....But as
for my kindness.....you'd have to meet me to make an informed judgement on
that. But this thread is not about me...or even you for that matter...Its
about something a great deal more important.....



As for all these bad teachers..... can't say I have met one yet.

Well given what you've written above it's no wonder. Your child
probably
wouldnt tell you.

My daughter is in 7th grade... maybe we will meet a bad one. Even the
one
teacher that seemed to be hard on her, felt as though he was being
pretty
tough on her, she had a fine year, was NOT damaged by it. If asked
today,
she would say she liked him.

Count yourself as being very very lucky then. My 2nd son is one of the
lucky ones he always had really lovely teachers and he adored them
all...My
eldest is a whole different story though.

Why is a teacher only a bad teacher when they
do or say something a parent doesn't like?

Dunno about you Tiffany, but I'm old enough to know the difference
between
right and wrong..acceptable and unaceptable..

I'm also well informed on the frameworks and guidelines in place that
educators of young children should follow...Not only that teaching is a
vocation...not merely a job...But above all ever teacher has a duty of
care
towards our children as outlined in any teaching post remit.

Dolores






You can tell the difference between right and wrong? You don't think its
ok
to be rude but have in turn insulted me and my parenting skills

Well if you've taken what I've said as an insult, then so be it. I cant be
responsible for your interpretation of what I write.

and through
in a bit about who Irish are better then USA students. Hmm... yeah, ok.

Dont you mean *throw* in a bit.....


Have
a nice day.

It's bedtime actually.......

Dolores

"Carla" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused? He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

I don't remember you, nor have I read any replies to this particular topic.
In kindergarden, my teacher was an extremely good one, if I remember
correctly. For some reason, looking back, I do believe I was definitely a
teacher's pet. I walked into kindergarden being able to tie my own shoes,
read a book, spell, say the alphabet, I knew my address, with postal code
included, and all that stuff that, generally, not every kid knew back then.
Only problem was, I read things backwards at times, and wrote letters and
numbers backwards. That teacher passed it off as a general problem that
some kids sometimes have with reading and writing at a fairly young age. It
was guessed that once everything was taught to me in a class, mostly in
grade 1, that would pass.
In the first grade, when we were learning to print our letters, I still
wrote letters and numbers backwards, even with a reference right infront of
me on the board. I do remember trying to copy the teacher exactly, but
printed letters and phrases would come out as a mirror image or backwards.
I remember shortly after school started my teacher called me stupid in
class. I ended up leaving school and walking the 10 or so blocks home,
crying. My mom called the school, mainly to express her disapproval and
shock at that teacher's pure ignorance and meanness. My mom talked to the
teacher and the teacher went on to explain that she didn't *really* think I
was stupid, but it just happened to "slip out" and that she figured I just
might be a bit bored in her class - IMHO, even today, that was very, very
unprofessional, and downright nasty.
After many, many tests and such, someone then concluded that although my
test scores were excellent, I was, indeed, dyslexic, and very bored in
class. To this day, it is actually easier for me to write things as a
mirror image, and I'm long out of first grade. My hand writing is nearly
impossible to read, but written as a mirror image, and held up to a mirror,
it is almost the perfect and ideal script.
See if there is anything available to you to check for dyslexia, and even
boredom or depression. If your daughter is getting good grades in school
with her last teacher, I highly doubt she is stupid or unable to learn. She
just might be bored in her class or intimidated by her current teacher.
What her current teacher did to her last year is just unacceptable, and I
believe that rather than look for flaws in your daughter, and possibly other
students, he should be finding things that she is good at and encouraging
them, and finding things she is weaker at and working on them.
ADD and ADHD seem to be diagnosed for almost everything nowadays when,
really, the problem could lie far from that.

Just my 2¢. I have no idea what others said, so I might be saying the exact
same things that have been said, or I might be saying the exact opposite.
Just an opinion from what MIGHT possibly be closer to being in your
daughter's shoes.

Oooh kaaay...
Is it just me, or all these replies coming up as "message no longer
available"?

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news:j_xab.13$it5.1@edtnps84...

"Carla" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters grade 1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken out of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year, and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were helpful. My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the year to a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine. She had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the entire year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is? The same guy who
was making the negative remarks last year. Last year, the first two
weeks of school, he said "she is extremely fidgity" and excessively
Chatty" Those are the things I remember. The first day of school this
year... YES THE FIRST DAY. I saw him, and asked how she was adjusting.
He said word for word "she is very absent minded" When I probed as to
what he was talking about, he said she had gotten up from her desk,
walked toward his desk, and when asked "what she wanted" She said she
forgot. I assumed he made her nervous and brushed him off. Last night
was parent teacher night. I went to see him. I asked how she was
doing, he said "she is really unfocused". That said, first words, I
told him, I'm extrememly irratated, as he has never said one positive
thing about her and reminded him she was in his class last year, and
he did the same thing. I told him I wanted facts to back this up. He
stated she writes backwards. At times she does get the odd e or #3
backwards, I'v noticed it myself. But I asked, how does that fit in
with unfocused?

It is possible that she has a learning disability but it is also possible
that what is being reported are symptoms of stress. You need to have her
evaluated by a professional to know for sure. Absent minded, being afraid
to talk to him after walking towards his desk, being unfocussed, the
backwards letters being used more often than normally - a slight problem
normally controllable by her - are all possible signs of stress. Would I be
correct in guessing that her second first grade teacher was a woman?
I would suggest an evaluation by either an MSW social worker or a
Psychologist to pick up on problems other than learning ones and I would
have a doctor give her a complete physical to be sure nothing is missed.
Roger - who is not in the field and will not give advice as that should come
from the professionals she sees.

He said "if I wanted to talk further, we could set up
an appointment". I asked him, then what is the purpose of this meeting
and you saing these things???? Long story short, I left, angry and
upset. I left a message for the principal to contact me and kept her
home today, to take her to her pediatrician incase I am missing
something.

Does this sound right to any of you guys? Has anyone had similar
experiences? I take care of alot of her freinds from that class, and
from her previous class. I don't see a HUGE difference in behavior or
scholastic endevours. I could be missing something, but I honestly
think it's this teacher. If you have suggestions in dealing with this,
on a professional, and nonemotional level, please help me out here.
I'm freakin right out.

Thanks,

C

dolores wrote in message
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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in message
om...
Hi,

I came here last year. I had some concerns with my daughters
grade
1
teacher who in the first week or two of school had insinuated
my
daughter was ADD or had a learning disability. She was taken
out
of
his class during the school shuffle about in Canada last year,
and
given a new teacher. She ended up finishing grade one with
straight
A's and B's. Her lowest mark, a B, not even a B-. That
particular
teacher had no concerns with her progress in any area. The
report
cards were postitive, and parent teacher meetings were
helpful.
My
daughter went from a C- in reading at the beginning of the
year
to
a
B+ at the end of the last term. Her social skills were fine.
She
had
one satisfactory, the rest were good or excellent. In the
entire
year
she had 2 repremands for arguing with one particular child and
was
given a think sheet.

Well, this year, guess who her grade 2 teacher is?

If your daughter is getting good grades, don't worry about what
this
guy
is
saying.

What he is saying is not so much the problem....it's the effect
he's
having
on this little girl....and *that* is a major problem..


As of yet, there is no effect this year. Atleast nothing is posted
that
the
child is having a hard time this year.


It is obvious your child is not his favorite and though it is
unfair, it happens.

Well is shouldnt happen...and he shouldnt be teaching....It's not
accetable
in the adult workplace so why should it be acceptable in the
classroom.

Its not acceptable in whose work place?

Anybodys' workplace Tiffany

Everyone deals with others
differently.

Yes, In a professional, curteous and respectful manner.

This man may appear to be 'mean'... maybe he is a tougher
teacher and expects more.

Qualities more suited to a juvenile deliquents establishment, not a
kiddies
school.

Maybe he is dead on about the child too.

And even if he was...I'd still say his approach was unaceptable.


Don't let the comments of one teacher have you thinking
anything is out of the ordinary with your child. You know your
kid
better
then anyone. My daughter had a teacher that didn't particularly
like
her
one
year..... we just grinned and got through the year and I stopped
meeting
with him.

So you just glibly accepted your childs education and future being
damaged.....

Damaged? LMAO..... no I don't think if she becomes damaged that I can
blame
it on one teacher many years ago.

Ok, lets use your logic then, shall we!....

You are saying that in no way could the negativity of one person, say a
teacher have a life long and deeply profound affect on a child ....

Then you must agree that the converse is also true....that in no way could
the *positive* words or actions, have a profoundly inspirational effect

There is no way to totally shield someone from negativity all their lives.

Maybe you havent given this topic the depth of thought that maybe you
should......as a mother. There are an amazing amount of children, now
adults, that have their teachers to thank for their expertise or
world-renowned talent....and conversely.....need I continue!?!?!

Our children are a product of what we feed them, physically, spiritually,
morally and most important...mentally! Our opinion of it is neither here
nor there, what matters is how it's impacted on our children.



Maybe the kid will be damaged if she is catered too also. The child
is
in
second grade..... no ill comments have been made to the child. The
mother
is
the one hurt right now.


It because of parents, with an attitude like yours, that we have
to deal with such bad teachers day in and day out....and our
children
leave
school with a 2nd rate education...They *know* they can get away
with
it....and they do get away with it.....We as parents have to stand
up
and
make ourselves heard.....

We are lucky for any education the kids get and if its second
rate...
educate your kid yourself.

And this is the reason why even the Irish drop-outs are better
educated
than
the American High School achievers.....

Its not just the teachers who should be teaching
the kids. I teach my kid that not everyone is going to be the way
she
wants
them to be.

In others words to accept second best.

Its not accepting second best.... its accepting people for who they are.

Accepting people for who they are....does not mean what you seem to think
it
does. Then, when your child comes home from school, distraught, crying,
hurt, ...your response will be.....Ah, get over it....if it's the worse
thing you ever experience then you'll be doing well......

What about when the kid comes home crying because so and so doesn't want to
be her friend no more or the boy next to her doesn't like her..... you
suggest the parent remove child from that group of kids? My point is
sometimes a kid needs to deal with a situation. I still don't see where the
teacher was actually mean to the kid directly. But as I have posted to the
OP and she has replied, arguring with you is not really necessary. This
isn't about you or me, remember? lol But as you say no one should be around
negativity... how do you do such a good job not ever having negativity
around you? Damn, you must live in a bubble. Have you learnt to deal with
people or do you just run from them? (Not really a question you need to
answer)

Not
everyone comes about as the kindest person in the world. Look at
youself.

I very much doubt I'm a perfect mother....indeed I'm far from it....But as
for my kindness.....you'd have to meet me to make an informed judgement on
that. But this thread is not about me...or even you for that matter...Its
about something a great deal more important.....



As for all these bad teachers..... can't say I have met one yet.

Well given what you've written above it's no wonder. Your child
probably
wouldnt tell you.

My daughter is in 7th grade... maybe we will meet a bad one. Even
the
one
teacher that seemed to be hard on her, felt as though he was being
pretty
tough on her, she had a fine year, was NOT damaged by it. If asked
today,
she would say she liked him.

Count yourself as being very very lucky then. My 2nd son is one of
the
lucky ones he always had really lovely teachers and he adored them
all...My
eldest is a whole different story though.

Why is a teacher only a bad teacher when they
do or say something a parent doesn't like?

Dunno about you Tiffany, but I'm old enough to know the difference
between
right and wrong..acceptable and unaceptable..

I'm also well informed on the frameworks and guidelines in place that
educators of young children should follow...Not only that teaching is
a
vocation...not merely a job...But above all ever teacher has a duty of
care
towards our children as outlined in any teaching post remit.

Dolores






You can tell the difference between right and wrong? You don't think its
ok
to be rude but have in turn insulted me and my parenting skills

Well if you've taken what I've said as an insult, then so be it. I cant
be
responsible for your interpretation of what I write.

You have been rude or more then one occasion..... I am not just talking
about now, I am talking in general.

and through
in a bit about who Irish are better then USA students. Hmm... yeah, ok.

Dont you mean *throw* in a bit.....

And now nitpicking about grammer.... lovely... this coming from someone who
posts yer.... along with your other Irish slang.


Have
a nice day.

I should have posted instead, have a nice life as my dialogue with you is
over. I am not debating with someone who has now resorted to pointing out
grammer mistakes.

It's bedtime actually.......

And that matters to me? lol

Dolores