Interesting local article on baby names

"dragonlady" wrote
One of my aunts named her son Sean, and was pronouncing it "see-ann"
until he was a few months old, and enough people told her it was "shawn"
so she started saying it the more traditional way!


I have a friend who has a baby by a man named Ian, she named the baby Gian.
She saw it in a book. But she says it like Ian with a G on front. G as in
Girl,not as in George.

"Penny Gaines" wrote When one is talking about the
different newpapers in each country,
the newspapers include La Monde, Die Zeit and the Times. No matter
which language you are speaking, one in the newspapers in France is
called La Monde, and should be pronounced in the French way: it is
not called The World.



Spanish news reports on Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles as Isabel and
Carlos. I always hate that, those may be the equivalents, but those are NOT
their names.

"Circe" wrote
But I am totally picky and
also dislike perfectly traditional names like Ashley and Brittany, so
there
you go. I just know what I like (and don't!).

Was that sarcasm? Neither of those are traditional for girls, they are
surnames taken over as girl names and only recently popular as 1st names.

"P. G. Chavez" wrote

I don't get Gabriel as a girl's name. Who would think this was a girl?
Has anyone else heard of this?


I know a Gabriel in Australia from another NG. It took over a year before I
realized she was female.

"Mary W." wrote:
Hillary Israeli wrote:

In ,
Jenn wrote:

*In article ,
* (Hillary Israeli) wrote:
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* In ,
* Jenn wrote:
*
* *but the correct foreign pronunciation of a place name is not 'correct'
* *if the people who use the name locally differ e.g. Lafayette as a place
* *name is often correctly pronounced Lah FAY ut not LA fay ette in the US
* *when it is a town or street name. Cairo Il is correctly pronounced Kay
*
* Seriously? Here in Lafayette Hill, PA, we say LAH-fay-ette HILL.
*
*
*in Nashville it is LAH fayut

so, where is it that you were saying they correctly pronounce it Lah FAY
ut, then?? Just curious!

Not Lafayette, but in Atlanta, a major road is Ponce de Leon. Pronounced
locally as Ponce da LEE-on. Took a little while to get used to that. Mostly
called "Ponce".

Place names very in pronunciation and the correct way to pronounce any
place is the way the locals pronounce it.

Beaumont St. in Philly is pronounced as in beautiful not as bowmont.
Beaufort NC is bow-fort and Beaufort SC is Be-U-fort (Beautiful Beaufort).
Lancaster CA IIRC is Lan CAS ter and in PA is LAN caster, I'm not sure but
I think Greenwich England and Greenwich CT are pronounced differently.

I tend to think that the correct way to pronounce a persons name is the way
they would like to have it pronounced - Mrs. Bucket (bouquet) aside.

grandma Rosalie

Penny Gaines wrote:

Vicki S wrote in :

(sher) wrote:
UP FRONT/COMMENTARY: A.L. ALFORD JR. ...
As always, parents showed creativity with names.

Among the boys were ... Declan ...

I don't know about any of the other names, but I understand Declan is a
perfectly ordinary Irish name. The rock musician "Elvis Costello" is
actaully named "Declan P.A. Macmanus" and he's close on to 50 years old.
(Born in 1955.)

Declan definately sounds more mainstream to my ears then Cody, Hunter and
Madison.

The article also says the following
:Isabell (not ranked), including single spellings of Isabel and Izabelle,
:four times each.

Can't they spell? There are just three correct spellings of Isabel -
Isabel, Isobel, and Isabelle.

(Sorry bugbear of mine.)

Well my dh's great grandmother was named Isabel, and sometimes they spelled
it one way and sometimes they spelled it another.

There is NO ONE WAY to spell any name.

I have a grandson named Dakota and they call him Cody or Kota. (His middle
name is William, which caused one of his aunts to quip - Instead of Bill
Cody, he's Cody Bill.)

People can spell their names any way they damn well please, and no one else
has anything to say about it. It's totally not their business.

grandma Rosalie

Nina wrote:
"Circe" wrote
But I am totally picky and

also dislike perfectly traditional names like Ashley and Brittany, so

there

you go. I just know what I like (and don't!).


Was that sarcasm? Neither of those are traditional for girls, they are
surnames taken over as girl names and only recently popular as 1st names.



Brittany is a surname? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone with
that as a last name. Ashley, yes.

Clisby

"Nina" wrote in message
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"Circe" wrote
But I am totally picky and
also dislike perfectly traditional names like Ashley and Brittany, so
there
you go. I just know what I like (and don't!).

Was that sarcasm? Neither of those are traditional for girls, they are
surnames taken over as girl names and only recently popular as 1st names.

No, it wasn't.

You're probably right about Ashley being a last name as first name, but it's
certainly not that *new*--there's a character in _Gone with the Wind_ named
Ashley, after all, although he's male.

My book on names, however, tells me that Brittany is derived from Britannia,
although I suppose it could also be derived from the province in France.
I've never heard it as a last name. I don't know how far back it goes as a
first name for girls, but I'd certainly heard of girls named Brittany (and
Ashley, too) well before I heard of any named Madison, Mackenzie, or Taylor.
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Penny Gaines wrote:
|| Fer wrote in WUEcb.20918$TM4.3770@pd7tw2no:
||
||||| There is a difference between properly pronouncing "Buena
||||| Vista",for example, and translating. There is nothing PC about
||||| correctly pronouncing a foregin name, that isnt the same as
||||| taking an English name for something and then substituing the
||||| foreign version.So to pronounce San Joaquin correctly is not the
||||| equivalent of using Deustchland in place of Germany.
|||
||| Ok, I am a little confused on this logic.....Pronouncing Buena Vista
||| properly appose to Good Sight/View (someone help me on the
||| translation) is different from Deustchland/Germany how?
||
|| This is my view:
||
|| When one is speaking in (British) English, the countries in Europe
|| include France, Denmark, Norway, Germany and England.
||
|| When one is speaking in Danish, the countries in Europe include
|| Frankrig, Danmark, Norge, Tyskland and England.
||
|| When one is speaking in German, the countries in Europe include
|| Frankreich, Danemark, Norwegen, Deutschland and England.
||
|| When one is speaking in Italian, the countries in Europe include
|| Francia, Danimarca, Norvegia, Germania and England.
||
|| When one is talking about the different newpapers in each country,
|| the newspapers include La Monde, Die Zeit and the Times. No matter
|| which language you are speaking, one in the newspapers in France is
|| called La Monde, and should be pronounced in the French way: it is
|| not called The World.
||
|| Does that help?
||

Yes and no....perhaps it is my own way of thinking. I was always taught to
use proper pronunciations of names, (probably from having a German mother
and living a stones throw from Quebec). To me correctly pronouncing Paris,
Mexico is no different that using Deutschland (it just happens to be a
totally different name in German). It seems odd to me not to at least
attempt to use proper pronunciation for all names. IMO it's just a matter
of respect. I would never call my DD's grandmother Mon-e-cue when her name
is Mun-ee-k' (Monique). I spent years having my teachers (French
immersion)call myself and others by French accented names......if I could
have a nickel for every 'Genevieve' AArrghhhh!

~~~Cheers!~~~
Jenn-WAHM-DS11-DD6-TTC#3


|| --
|| Penny Gaines
|| UK mum to three

--?

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
There is NO ONE WAY to spell any name.

snip

People can spell their names any way they damn well please, and no one
else
has anything to say about it. It's totally not their business.

Agreed. Notwithstanding, people who choose to spell their children's names
in non-standard ways should expect to be saddling those children with a
lifetime of correcting others from spelling the name correctly.

We have a relatively unusual and difficult-to-spell/pronounce last name. I
grew up with an equally unusual and difficult-to-spell/pronounce. The last
thing I wanted to do was give my children names that weren't spelled in the
standard way. It's bad enough they'll have to go through life spelling their
surname or correcting its pronunciation all the time without having to do it
for their first names as well.

By the way, on this theory, my mother named me Barbara, thinking it a
perfectly standard name with a well-known standard spelling. Then along came
Barbra Streisand, complicating my life forever after...
--
Be well, Barbara
(Julian [6], Aurora [4], and Vernon's [18mo] mom)
See us at http://photos.yahoo.com/guavaln

This week's special at the English Language Butcher Shop:
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Taylor

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Needless to say, they are not those of my Internet Service Provider, its
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