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Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?



 
 
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Old November 13th 03, 01:43 AM
Bev Brandt
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Banty wrote in message ...

'Artemis' is a better-known mythological figure, and no obvious reason to tease
about it comes to mind. So make that the first name.

Banty


"Artemis-fartemis."

Ah well, as someone said. They all get teased. Don't know how many
Beverly Hillbilly references I've heard in my life. And don't get me
started on the whole "beaver" thing...

Or, as someone else said, maybe names are so different these days that
teasing is starting to get boring for the kids. I recently asked my
oldest about some of the more unique names in his 2nd grade class.
When I indicated that a name was unusual, he looked at me like I had 2
heads. So maybe it really doesn't matter any more.

My oldest has recently discovered that he has a last name as a first
name. And it's the same last name as a famous older comedian. Right
now he thinks it's cool. We shall see.

My daughter's name is a font. Someone'll figure that out someday, I'm
sure. She might not be too happy. (It's also the name of an ancient
Greek poetess, so it could balance out.)

Youngest has a "normal" name. He might end up being the odd man out
because of that.

- Bev

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Old November 13th 03, 01:44 AM
Claire Petersky
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"Banty" wrote in message
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In article , andrea baker


I'm thinking of Hypatia (after Hypatia of Alexandria) for my
daughter's first name, and Artemis (after the Greek Goddess of the
Hunt) for a second name. My parents are horrified, and think she'll
be teased.


I would switch it and go for Artemis Hypatia.

My initial reaction to 'Hypatia' was that it sounds like a medical

condition.

Hysteria, hysterectomy, dyspepsia were all things that came to mind when I
read it.

'Artemis' is a better-known mythological figure, and no obvious reason to

tease
about it comes to mind. So make that the first name.


I agree. And Arte, pronounced "arty" is kind of a cute nick name, if you had
to go that route.

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Old November 13th 03, 04:09 AM
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Scott Lindstrom wrote in :

andrea baker wrote:
Hi folks,

I'm thinking of Hypatia (after Hypatia of Alexandria) for my
daughter's first name, and Artemis (after the Greek Goddess of the
Hunt) for a second name. My parents are horrified, and think she'll

[snip]

Any other suggestions for strong, unmarried female namesakes?


I think the only argument against Hypatia is that your
daughter will forever be spelling her name for anyone
who asks her name.

[snip]

And people will mis-pronounce it: I first read it as Hyp-atia, but
if Patty is the short form, then prehaps you will be prounouncing it
Hy-patia.

Another factor is to look at her initials: HAB is OK, but what if she
gets married and changes her name?

I think Banty had a good idea: Atremis Hypatia Baker sounds better
*to me*.

The other name that come to mind was Diana: but that is another hunting
goddess name. Freya, which someone mentioned, is becoming more popular in
the UK.

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Old November 13th 03, 04:25 AM
Banty
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Default Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?

In article , Bev Brandt says...

Banty wrote in message
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'Artemis' is a better-known mythological figure, and no obvious reason to tease
about it comes to mind. So make that the first name.

Banty


"Artemis-fartemis."


Well, you can rhyme anything.


Ah well, as someone said. They all get teased. Don't know how many
Beverly Hillbilly references I've heard in my life. And don't get me
started on the whole "beaver" thing...


I so think 'Artemis' works better as the first name.

Or, as someone else said, maybe names are so different these days that
teasing is starting to get boring for the kids. I recently asked my
oldest about some of the more unique names in his 2nd grade class.
When I indicated that a name was unusual, he looked at me like I had 2
heads. So maybe it really doesn't matter any more.

My oldest has recently discovered that he has a last name as a first
name. And it's the same last name as a famous older comedian. Right
now he thinks it's cool. We shall see.

My daughter's name is a font. Someone'll figure that out someday, I'm
sure. She might not be too happy. (It's also the name of an ancient
Greek poetess, so it could balance out.)


'Helvetica Brandt'? Hopefully not "WingDings Brandt' :-)


Youngest has a "normal" name. He might end up being the odd man out
because of that.


I know a couple who named their first two children John and Mary. Both family
names which mean a lot to them. But one of their favorite stories to recount is
about their friend who said 'baby-naming books were wasted on you'.

Banty

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Old November 13th 03, 02:21 PM
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(...)

I was teased about my LAST name as a child. And I appreciate having
an unusual name although it is hard to get people not to call me
Rosanne or Rosemary or Rosie or some other variation.


My last name is Utz and my middle name begins with P. Very high teasing
potential. But I was never teased for this (or much else, really) --
forutnately the kids where i grew up didn't know a lot of yiddish, i guess.

Actually, the only people who have brought it up are some immature people in
the newsgroups.

Jeff



grandma Rosalie



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Old November 13th 03, 04:52 PM
Robyn Kozierok
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Default Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?

In article ,
andrea baker wrote:
Hi folks,

I'm thinking of Hypatia (after Hypatia of Alexandria) for my
daughter's first name, and Artemis (after the Greek Goddess of the
Hunt) for a second name. My parents are horrified, and think she'll
be teased. I thought if she doesn't like Hypatia, she can use "Patty"
for short. For reasons personal to me, it's important to give her the
name of a strong, unmarried woman.


Personally, I don't think Hypatia rolls off the tongue very easily. I
like Artemis, but especially if you decide to go with it for a first
name, you might want to be aware of the Artemis Fowl books where the title
character is an approximately 12yo boy (though he does mention in the
first book, I think, that Artemis is really a female name).

That said, whatever you name your child, your horrified parents will get
used to it, and eventually they won't be able to imagine her having any
other name.

Of course, I named my boys very common names, so you might not be
interested in my opinion.

Good luck with the pregnancy and with settling on a name!

--Robyn (mommy to Ryan 9/93 and Matthew 6/96 and Evan 3/01)

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Old November 13th 03, 05:41 PM
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Default Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?

In tBzsb.132470$mZ5.900837@attbi_s54,
Claire Petersky wrote:

*
*"Banty" wrote in message
...
* In article , andrea baker
*
* I'm thinking of Hypatia (after Hypatia of Alexandria) for my
* daughter's first name, and Artemis (after the Greek Goddess of the
* Hunt) for a second name. My parents are horrified, and think she'll
* be teased.
*
* I would switch it and go for Artemis Hypatia.
*
* My initial reaction to 'Hypatia' was that it sounds like a medical
*condition.
*
*Hysteria, hysterectomy, dyspepsia were all things that came to mind when I
*read it.

Heh. I thought of hypospadias.

-hillary "dillary dock" israeli

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Old November 13th 03, 05:42 PM
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Default Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?

In ,
Jeff wrote:

*(...)
*
* I was teased about my LAST name as a child. And I appreciate having
* an unusual name although it is hard to get people not to call me
* Rosanne or Rosemary or Rosie or some other variation.
*
*My last name is Utz and my middle name begins with P. Very high teasing
*potential. But I was never teased for this (or much else, really) --
*forutnately the kids where i grew up didn't know a lot of yiddish, i guess.

I'm sorry, I DO know enough yiddish to find that hilarious, and I never
noticed before! Now I'm giggling so hard I woke the baby.

-hillary "p. dillary" israeli

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Old November 13th 03, 08:19 PM
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Default Anyone think I shouldn't name my daughter Hypatia Artemis? Other suggestions?


In article ,
(andrea baker) wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm thinking of Hypatia (after Hypatia of Alexandria) for my
daughter's first name, and Artemis (after the Greek Goddess of the
Hunt) for a second name. My parents are horrified, and think she'll
be teased. I thought if she doesn't like Hypatia, she can use "Patty"
for short. For reasons personal to me, it's important to give her the
name of a strong, unmarried woman.

Who else thinks this is just an invitation for bullying, or thinks
that there are other compelling reasons not to use these names?

Any other suggestions for strong, unmarried female namesakes?

-Andrea Baker


The names you've suggested are unusual enough so there might be problems
with teasing, depending upon where you live.


Was Diana a married goddess? You might want to go back to the early
stories of the greek goddesses -- they come accross as much more
powerful and independent than after the stories were Romanized. Demeter
and Persephone's story, for instance, is one of powerful women making
decisions, NOT of abduction and rape -- check out "Lost Goddessess of
Early Greece", by Charlene Spretnacht (not sure I have the author's name
right).

The first Queen Elizabeth never married, and ruled a powerful country.

Susan B. Anthony never married.

Olympia Brown married, but kept her birth name, and dedicated her life
to opening doors for women -- she married a man who accepted her as an
equal partner. I just really like her! (Lucy Stone is often credited
as the first modern woman to keep her birth name after she married.)

I don't think Elizabeth Blackwell ever married -- and she spent a great
deal of her professional life working for women's and children's health.


Clara Barton never married, and had a heck of a powerful life.

I don't think Jane Addams ever married; again, she had a pretty
powerful role in women's health, and even won a Nobel. (There's also
Calamaty Jane, who may or may not have been married to her baby's
father, but later did marry someone with whom she was already living.)

I don't think Willa Cather ever married.

Fannie Farmer never married; she was a pretty cool lady, but I'm not
sure I'd saddle a girl with the name "Fannie"!

Emma Goldman was only married briefly.

I don't think Katherine Hepburn ever married, and she has the added
benefit of having played scandalously strong women on screen.

Mother Mary Jones was married but lost her husband AND all of her
children to an epidemic; her most powerful work was done as a single
woman.

Maria Mitchell was the first woman member of the American Acadamy of
Arts and Sciences, and discovered a comet. As far as I know, she never
married.

For incredibly powerful women from the civil war era, there's Sojourner
Truth and Harriet Tubman, both known for work they did independently --
but both were married.

Congratulations, and good luck!

meh
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