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Old July 28th 06, 07:41 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
john
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Jennifer Horne Roberts' address for 'the MMR10' to Case Management
Conference on 24th July 2006 in The High Court

These proceedings have unfortunately come to a close for 'the MMR10'.

The issue of compensation for these severely injured children, who we say
are the victims of the MMR jab, remains unresolved.

The direct consequence of the withdrawal of legal aid by the Legal Services
Commission was that the trial of the action against the pharmaceutical
companies could not proceed.

We are no less convinced of our cause. We had and have expert evidence of 28
expert witnesses who we say could have proved our case at trial 'on the
balance of probabilities'.

It is not possible to proceed alone without legal aid because the cost of
expert witnesses could not be met and there is no protection against costs
without a legal aid certificate.

Also an effective legal team is necessary to present the case against
powerful pharmaceutical companies.

Our only way forward since we don't have the resources to proceed to trial
was to abandon our claims or see them struck out. It is with the very
greatest regret that we have been put it in this position.

The response of the parents of the 10 children, the 'MMR10', has been to
challenge withdrawal of legal aid by way of judicial review. We have done so
with myself as the barrister mother of Harry, one of the 'MMR10', as
advocate.

We have taken the matter through the High Court and Court of Appeal
where the judgments were gagged, or in the case of Court of Appeal partially
gagged.

The case is now lodged in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR)which is
the Court of last resort.

The challenge in the ECHR is on the basis of denial of access to justice
since we have been denied a trial in the UK. We seek compensation for that.

We also seek a recommendation from the European Court of Human Rights that
the 10 years limitation period in the Consumer Protection Act 1987 should be
extended very substantially throughout these children's lives, as is
currently the case in negligence actions brought by disabled children; or
for the foreseeable use of the product.

As more evidence emerges in our favour - the Walker/Krigsman findings very
recently have backed up those of the Dr Wakefield Team published from 1998
onwards-It may be that we can resurrect our claims under the 1987 Act as
more and conclusive evidence emerges. The cases of many of the children will
require extension of the limitation period.

If that occurs we can look forward to this litigation being recommenced and
proceeding in future. In any event we are likely to be seeking to pursue
negligence claims against the pharmaceutical companies at some point in the
future.

The case in the European Court of Human Rights is against the UK. We say the
British Government role in the MMR matter is wholly unacceptable.

This is one of the greatest if not the greatest scandals in medical history
affecting 10's of thousands of children in this country. The latest estimate
is that more than 1 in 100 of the child population is now autistic. There
must be many millions worldwide.

The cost is untold and untellable misery for the victims and their families.
The response of the Government has been tried to deny the truth, and refuse
to investigate.

We are confident only that history will condemn their actions in the
strongest terms. We fight on in the European Court of Human Rights and with
a campaign that will never end for justice for these children.

And for the future for policies to save guard the health of the world's
children, not to expose them to unacceptable risks as at present.

We call for the introduction of single jabs in the UK now so that parents
have a choice. For our severely and unjustly injured children the fight goes
on.

The fight goes on in litigation in other countries. There is no hiding place
for those who have been privy to this modern day 'slaughter of the
innocents'.

Recent research shows that in the Amish and other communities in the US,
where they do not vaccinate their children, autism is unknown.

We the 'MMR10' have written two books on our fight and with assessment of
evidence in the case; the first in the UK courts, the second as the case
goes before the European Court of Human Rights. A film is due to be made of
this story.

These books can be found on the website at:

http://www.horne-roberts.co.uk/ebook...o_JUSTICE.html

http://www.horne-roberts.co.uk/ebook...to_JUSTICE.pdf

There is more information on the JABS website at:

www.jabs.org.uk


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Old July 28th 06, 10:04 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
The Rifleman
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Default 'the MMR10'.

One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart, still
covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt. odd innit
that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child syndrome etc has
risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up measles,
mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of human
evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile bacterial
attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump multiple
vaccines into underdevoloped systems.


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Old July 28th 06, 10:16 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
Mark Probert
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Default 'the MMR10'.

The Rifleman wrote:
One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart, still
covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt. odd innit
that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child syndrome etc has
risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up measles,
mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of human
evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile bacterial
attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump multiple
vaccines into underdevoloped systems.


Are you the "rifleman" who taught Dick Cheney how to shoot straight?



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Old July 28th 06, 10:26 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
Jeff
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Default 'the MMR10'.


"The Rifleman" wrote in message
...
One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart, still
covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt. odd innit
that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child syndrome etc
has risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up
measles, mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of human
evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile bacterial
attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump multiple
vaccines into underdevoloped systems.


Actually, our bodied are well equipped to deal with multiple bacterial
attacks at the same time. You colon is full of bacteria. In fact, there are
more bacterial cells in your gut and on your skin than you have human cells.
These bacterial are constantly challenging your immune system. In addition
you get multiple challenges from viruses.

So the immune system is well equipped to deal with vaccines.

Jeff


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Old July 28th 06, 10:32 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
The Rifleman
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Default 'the MMR10'.



Are you the "rifleman" who taught Dick Cheney how to shoot straight?


No I am the rifleman who's brother became autistic back in the 60s after
getting his measles jabs


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Old July 28th 06, 10:32 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
The Rifleman
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Default 'the MMR10'.


"Jeff" wrote in message
nk.net...

"The Rifleman" wrote in message
...
One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart,
still covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt.
odd innit that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child
syndrome etc has risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up
measles, mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of
human evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile
bacterial attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump
multiple vaccines into underdevoloped systems.


Actually, our bodied are well equipped to deal with multiple bacterial
attacks at the same time. You colon is full of bacteria. In fact, there
are more bacterial cells in your gut and on your skin than you have human
cells. These bacterial are constantly challenging your immune system. In
addition you get multiple challenges from viruses.

So the immune system is well equipped to deal with vaccines.

Jeff

In adults, not infants.



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Old July 28th 06, 10:33 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
The Rifleman
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Default 'the MMR10'.


"Jeff" wrote in message
nk.net...

"The Rifleman" wrote in message
...
One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart,
still covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt.
odd innit that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child
syndrome etc has risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up
measles, mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of
human evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile
bacterial attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump
multiple vaccines into underdevoloped systems.


Actually, our bodied are well equipped to deal with multiple bacterial
attacks at the same time. You colon is full of bacteria. In fact, there
are more bacterial cells in your gut and on your skin than you have human
cells. These bacterial are constantly challenging your immune system. In
addition you get multiple challenges from viruses.

So the immune system is well equipped to deal with vaccines.

Jeff BTW when I was a soldier I saw first hand the effects of multile
various innoculations on my fellow boy soldiers, many of whom spent many
days in bed afyter reacting badly to the multiple shots.



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Old July 28th 06, 10:38 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
The Rifleman
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Default 'the MMR10'.

One must remember that it is the exact same health " experts" and ologists
telling us MMR is safe, who previously told us , Thalidomide was safe for
pregnant mums, eggs were not infected with Salomella, BSE/ CJD could not
jump species, beef was safe to eat, etc

We paid that price before, dont let the govt or self appointed ( and well
financed by govt and pharmasutical money) experts bull**** or cajole us
into accepting MMR, Insist on single shots its safer and your kids will
still end up vaccinated.


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Old July 28th 06, 10:50 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
Mark Probert
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Default 'the MMR10'.

The Rifleman wrote:
Are you the "rifleman" who taught Dick Cheney how to shoot straight?


No I am the rifleman who's brother became autistic back in the 60s after
getting his measles jabs


I see you ducked.

There is absolutely no proof that the MMR causes autism. It was
scaremonergered by Wakefield, and the US study you mention was miniscule.

Your brother was born with the genes that lead to autism.
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Old July 28th 06, 10:51 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,uk.politics,uk.politics.misc
Mark Probert
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Default 'the MMR10'.

The Rifleman wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
nk.net...
"The Rifleman" wrote in message
...
One does not need to be a doctor or a genius to understand the risks
involved in dumping multiple strains of various diseases into young
undeveloped immune systems, my child got single shots 6 weeks apart,
still covered still innoculated but not poisoned by this labour govt.
odd innit that the increase in the incidents of autism/ clumsy child
syndrome etc has risen hugely in the last 15 years.
And HMG can not discount the findings from the Us that has found the same
strain of measles in the gut of so many american victims.

In the real world what are the ACTUAL chances of a child picking up
measles, mumps and reubella aat the same time????, miniscule isnt it??

Therefore its equally safe to assume that after millions of years of
human evolution our bodies are not equipped to deal with multpile
bacterial attacks at the same time, so imagine what happens when you dump
multiple vaccines into underdevoloped systems.

Actually, our bodied are well equipped to deal with multiple bacterial
attacks at the same time. You colon is full of bacteria. In fact, there
are more bacterial cells in your gut and on your skin than you have human
cells. These bacterial are constantly challenging your immune system. In
addition you get multiple challenges from viruses.

So the immune system is well equipped to deal with vaccines.

Jeff

In adults, not infants.


In both.
 




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